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Answers to emode.com IQ test ( "the original IQ test" )

 
 
eric9164
 
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Reply Fri 19 Mar, 2004 01:57 am
Jerks? Who? Those who know the answers or the ones who don't understand ?¿¿¿¿
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kulugo
 
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Reply Sun 28 Mar, 2004 10:49 pm
elementary pt of view
SANDY vs JACK

Assume distance is 30miles for easy refence
divide line into 3 pts (10 miles each)
Start/Finish
Pt A= 10 miles
Pt B= 20 miles
Pt C= 30 miles

Start----------Pt A----------Pt B----------Pt C

First Hour:
Jack would be in Pt C
Sandy would be in Pt B

Second Hour:
Jack would be back in Pt B
Sandy would be also in Pt B

Third Hour:
Jack would be in Pt A
Sandy is back where she started!!!

=)
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33. Which one of the designs is least like the other four?

Answer: Circle
Why?: Distance of dot to perimeter is always equal unlike others
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eric-draven
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2004 10:51 pm
IQ tests = measure potential to do well in school
If I recall, the original maker of the IQ test said that it was a predictor for your potential to do well in school. Way back when, and to a fair degree now in the US at least, I'm sure that it does an OK job at doing that.

They are Not a measure of "intelligence", by any scientific definition. Intelligence is really hard to define anyway.

Is it the ability to learn new things?

Is it the ability to remember old things?

Is it the ability to figure things out? In new/old ways?

Is it the ability to absorb things around you?

To read a lot?

To memorize basic to semi-complex math?

To do common tasks in a new and much more efficient fashion?

To think more in line with the populace?

To think out of line with the populace?

For all of the above questions, what happens if you throw into the mix the individual's interest/curiousity/excitement? It is obvious that if you ask someone to learn something they care about, they will learn it quicker. Does that make them smarter than the other guy? In general, IQ tests ask rather dull questions from the point of view of most people's emotions. Often (yes sometimes stereotypes are there because of a majority following a trend) the "nerdier" type ppl tend to get off on more dull things (numbers, logic, puzzles, etc.) that are asked in tests, but get bored with things that interest the general population like complex relationships between people... how to act to get the most benefit out of others around you... popular clothing/music/TV/sports/etc... what's the best way to get "ahead" or to be "happy". How many of us know supposed geniuses who dropped out of school to work at awful places... or got caught up in drugs or criminal activity... or couldn't hold a 1 sentence conversation with a stranger? You may say their emotions got the best of them and they couldn't perform... well you could say the same for the bored population who score avg on standardized tests.

Hell, emotions definitely get in the way in "real life" IQ tests... because there are testers there who probe you. If you are nervous in situations like that, you Will score much lower than you could.

For the above questions, what about speed? Is Bubba smarter than Joe because he answered the questions quicker? What if the answered them quicker because he didn't think about alternate answers/ways of thinking/perspective ... maybe he is a little lazier or more arrogant than Joe. Perhaps Joe is more careful about answers, likes to explore more ways of approaching a problem (to be sure some questions have more than one answer if you think unconventionally), or perhaps he just doesn't feel the pressure of time as he should during a timed test.

Genius certainly means different things to different ppl as well. I think Einstein said that creativity is the most important ability when speaking of intellect/genius. Creativity is measured almost not at all in the IQ tests I've seen... it's actually bad to be creative in fact. You must try to think like the judges who made the question to get them right.

Anyway, my point is that it's ncie on the ego to score well on these kind of tests. But in reality, it certainly doesn't make you smarter than the next guy. There is no test that can measure someone's true intelligence. It would require testing of brain potential (made up of probably an infinite number of things) including reasoning, logic, learning, memory, etc. all combined (not just separately, cuz if you can overcome some deficiencies in memory with logic then it makes up for it, etc. etc.). It would also have to take into account all the cultural/interest/curiousity/arousal/nervousness/social/etc. biases. It would also have to take into account how well you felt that day... if you were a morning or evening person... if you had heard any of the questions or similar questions before... etc etc on and on.

Simply, don't get too arrogant or too put down on your score. You may be the smartest person in the world... it just depends on how you measure it.
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heofon
 
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Reply Fri 9 Apr, 2004 02:32 pm
About the rose question. I believe "ugly" would fit well too. Then you could understand the sentence as saying:

Even the most ugly rose that no-one wants has features to stop you from getting it.

That is more beautiful to me than the "tempting" answer. If two options are grammatically and contextually correct, then it comes down to opinion. There is no right or wrong.
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Stux
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2004 03:11 pm
Oh Goody Smile

I just came off a marathon coding session and decided to click on the emode banner ad and take the test with brain-fry Smile

Heh

I got two wrong,

After spending entirely too long reading this thread, I now know which two

(and since I've come to this forum on another google search in the past, I decided to register Wink, so now I'm posting)

one was the definitely false question and the other was john and sandy

Its funny actually, I did the scenario... twice to be sure... but I screwed up the math on the second test and sandy lost... so obviously it was impossible to tell (brainfry at its best Wink)

The definitely false question i'm still not happy with but I can almost convince myself its right...

Its definitely not true, ergo its false...

A kangaroo is also not a hooved animal, has a pounch, travels by bounding, uses its arms to grasp, is a marsupial (pouch) and a myriad of other reasons

everyone has already said that 900 is a perfect square

A circle is round... it has no points, its not a polygon... which in my opinion means its a better fit than something being only partially symetrical

a coconut would've made the fruit question more interesting for sure, but it would still grow on trees, and the coconut nut is really just the stone, just like all the other fruits have stones, cept the grape, which has seeds/pips or none (depending on variety Wink)

I liked the question with the 2 stationary points and the 2 moving points and the similar question with the covered square and the white square

I guess because I got a 'logic' question and a 'math' question wrong that makes me a "Visionary Philosopher" heh

Do I/we get extra bonus points for *not* paying for the answers Wink

ciao
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Stux
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2004 03:14 pm
Quote:
A circle is round... it has no points, its not a polygon... which in my opinion means its a better fit than something being only partially symetrical


no need to point out that a circle can be considered to have infinite points Wink

thanks
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2004 03:24 pm
I don't think paying gives you the answers, I don't remember. When I posted the answers they were mine with my comments.

Welcome to A2K.
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soserene
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2004 03:44 pm
Re: Answers to emode.com IQ test ( "the original IQ tes
Craven de Kere wrote:


Quote:


26. Two cars start off at the same point on a straight highway facing opposite directions. Each car drives for 6 miles, takes a left turn, and drives for 8 miles. How far apart are the two cars?

Answer: 20
(/quote)

This is the only one I think I missed.... I'll probably feel stupid after someone explains it, but it's been driving me nuts.....
Opposite directions... they each go for six miles... so before they turn they are 12 miles apart, right?
Then if they both go left, they would be heading in opposite directions, so they would be 8 miles from midpoint... so 16 miles apart that way.

So 12 miles plus 16 miles... is 28... but that wasn't even an option.. what am I doing wrong?
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2004 04:00 pm
what's the shortest route?...a diagonal...Pyth. enters the equation.
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soserene
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2004 04:02 pm
aww hell...
That's not fair

lol but ty!
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zaheera
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 05:14 am
E-mode IQ test
Hello there....i'm new here. i did the e-mode IQ test and couldn't figure out how to solve question #13 & #21.

Q#13: A boy is 4 years oldd and his sister is three times as old as he is. When the boy is 12 years old, how old will his sister be?

Ans: 20

Q#21: Ten people can paint 60 houses in 120days, so five people can paint 30 houses in:

Ans : 120days

can someone please...please..please HELP ME! Please show me how to solve it. I would really appreciate it. I'm going crazy here of not knowing how to solve it!

Thanks!
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 09:30 am
Re: E-mode IQ test
zaheera wrote:
Hello there....i'm new here. i did the e-mode IQ test and couldn't figure out how to solve question #13 & #21.


Hello zaheera, welcome to A2K.

Quote:
Q#13: A boy is 4 years oldd and his sister is three times as old as he is. When the boy is 12 years old, how old will his sister be?



4 X 3 = S

S = 12

Sister is 12

12 - 4 = 8

The boy will be twelve in 8 years

12 + 8 = 20

In 8 years the sister will be 20



Quote:
Q#21: Ten people can paint 60 houses in 120days, so five people can paint 30 houses in:


This one's really clear in plain english. 5 people do half as much as 10 people, 30 houses represents half of 60.
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justsomekid
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 01:55 pm
Although my intentions were meant to be positive, I feel I may have strayed from the subject and halted the debate at hand. For this reason I am deleting my original post and encouraging you to continue your discussions. Thank you. :wink:
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gfronz
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2004 03:23 pm
I can't believe the answers I read about who gets there first Sandy or Jack. It's always going to be Sandy as she travels any distance back twice as fast as Jack. Jack could start at point B and it would take him twice as long as it would take Sandy. Therefore Sandy wins any race by the amount of time it takes Jack to get from point A to point B. Take 20 miles and give jack the head start at point B. It takes Sandy 1 hour to get there and 1 hour to get back. It takes Jack 2 hours just to get back. How about 200 miles. It takes Sandy 10 hours to get there and 10 hours to get back and it takes Jack 20 hours just to get back.......
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Reality
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jun, 2004 11:05 pm
Edit (Moderator): Solicitation and spam removed.
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robbit
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2004 12:36 pm
The rose thing
Let's bring end end to the discussion about the rose !!!!!!!!!!


Even the most TEMPTING rose has thorns.

There is no philosophical or "best word fitting" - thing about it .
It is a quote from am book named "FAUST" written by a german author named "Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe" who lived several hundred years ago.

It means, that even very beautiful things have their negative sides.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2004 12:42 pm
Given that the dispute itself was whether there is non-cultural basis for the answer that settles nothing at all.

Welcome to A2K.
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robbit
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 06:37 am
well, i was talking about that with my german prof at weber state univ. and he said that, this would be a normal saying (at least in germany). If you wanna call that cultural is a question not to be answered. But its "defined"; so there is as much space for discussion about it like "its raining cats and dogs".
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 09:41 am
You still don't get it. Earlier, I argued that it was easily the most logical option even disregarding cultural knowledge about a famous saying.

That seems to be the position you share, but then you use arguments that are better suited for the cultural camp.

Raining cats and dogs is cultural know knowledge and is not comparable.

We all know what the answer was, we were arguing about whether it was a suitable IQ test question.

Whether or not it's a known saying makes no difference to that, as a known saying is learned knowledge and should not factor into the test.

The saying had to be the most logical option. It was because it was the best contrast and the words chosen precluded anything but a contrast.
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robbit
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 12:06 pm
Well I think, we have the same opinion here. If you argue with the best contrast, and say it's a thing of logic; That's true. But if you want to argue with culture, there are known / unknown quotes / sayings here or elsewhere, you can put in as an answer and call it knowledge of culture. Anyways these quotes are >mostly/hopefully< lead back to logic . Which answers your question about logic or culture with a tie. If you know the quote(while writing the test), put in the right word, if you don't know it; you will have to think about it (and hopefully find the right answer during the given time)
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