MEDICAL TERRORISTS ??

I have worked with doctors for years.


I know they can be spectacular arseholes; mad, bad and dangerous to know.

As stupid, bigoted, cruel and demented as any human.


I did not think I had an illusion left.

Quote:

I don't know, but I think the fact that they made such an issue of specifically stating that there were three doctors included this time, would indicate that this is something out of the ordinary, or an anomaly worth mentioning.

It would seem fairly easy to discern whether doctors were disproportionately represented among at least the KNOWN terrorists and terrorist suspects that have been targeted by categorizing them by profession. But I've never read or heard anything that points to the fact that there seem to be more doctors among terrorists.

Have you? Have you ever read about any other of these people who have had medical degrees?

I understand that Ladin 's 2nd in command is an M.D.

Quote:

In fact, what profession do you think would be more likely to produce terrorists? Law- maybe? Just kidding- but that's an interesting question- what do or are these people doing with their lives in addition to planning and carrying out terrorist plots and wreaking havoc?

It seems to me that when Atta
and the others drove their stolen planes into the WTC
thay were nuts; that is not a rational act.


Does that assert a negative statement
of the relationship between inteligence and sound mental health ?

*This post was in answer to Wilso's:

Maybe their feelings were divided between their vow to do no harm (hippocratic oath) and their allegiance to their cause, cell, religion, ideology- whatever you want to call it.

It's a mad, mad world we're living in-when people even expect doctors to be better at blowing people up- just because they're doctors.

aidan wrote:

Quote:

I don't know, but I think the fact that they made such an issue of specifically stating that there were three doctors included this time, would indicate that this is something out of the ordinary, or an anomaly worth mentioning.

It would seem fairly easy to discern whether doctors were disproportionately represented among at least the KNOWN terrorists and terrorist suspects that have been targeted by categorizing them by profession. But I've never read or heard anything that points to the fact that there seem to be more doctors among terrorists.

Have you? Have you ever read about any other of these people who have had medical degrees?

I understand that Ladin 's 2nd in command is an M.D.

Quote:

In fact, what profession do you think would be more likely to produce terrorists? Law- maybe? Just kidding- but that's an interesting question- what do or are these people doing with their lives in addition to planning and carrying out terrorist plots and wreaking havoc?

It seems to me that when Atta
and the others drove their stolen planes into the WTC
thay were nuts; that is not a rational act.


Does that assert a negative statement
of the relationship between inteligence and sound mental health ?

I don't think so, but I haven't actually studied those statistics. My first thought would be that intelligence would correlate with more sound mental health (except for maybe a higher incidence of narcissicism and delusions of grandeur) in that it would confer upon that individual the ability to function more successfully in society and bring into their lives all the benefits that would extend from that enhanced ability to function appropriately.

I really hate making gross generalizations based on things like levels intelligence or choice of profession- because people choose their profession based on all sorts of criteria- one of which is definitely their level of intelligence.

aidan wrote:

*This post was in answer to Wilso's:

Maybe their feelings were divided between their vow to do no harm (hippocratic oath) and their allegiance to their cause, cell, religion, ideology- whatever you want to call it.

It's a mad, mad world we're living in-when people even expect doctors to be better at blowing people up- just because they're doctors.

It does not appear that their superior intelligence
was sufficient to stop them from mentally deranged acts.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

aidan wrote:

*This post was in answer to Wilso's:

Maybe their feelings were divided between their vow to do no harm (hippocratic oath) and their allegiance to their cause, cell, religion, ideology- whatever you want to call it.

It's a mad, mad world we're living in-when people even expect doctors to be better at blowing people up- just because they're doctors.

It does not appear that their superior intelligence
was sufficient to stop them from mentally deranged acts.

Quote:

Maybe because intelligence had very little to do with it- as I've stated.
That would be my first thought.

How many of your fellow mensans would you say would do something like this
solely because they were smart David?

None of them whom I have met;
however, one of us was convicted of murder.
( I don 't remember the circumstances. )

I had an intelligent legal secretary, with a degree
in computer sciences, who murdered her grandparents
out of religious considerations.

Quote:

I think there are other overriding influences
and personality characteristics- obsessiveness for one.

Yes.
Well, it depends on with what u r obsessed.

Quote:

*Are you angry at me- you used to be so much more friendly to me...

Certainly not.
There is no reason for anger.

( At what time of the evening shall we meet ? )
David



P.S.:
It was never my intention to have been unfriendly.

It's a mad, mad world we're living in-when people even expect doctors to be better at blowing people up- just because they're doctors.

I had an intelligent legal secretary, with a degree
in computer sciences, who murdered her grandparents
out of religious considerations. [/b]

*Are you angry at me- you used to be so much more friendly to me...
Certainly not.
There is no reason for anger.

( At what time of the evening shall we meet ? )
David

P.S.:
It was never my intention to have been unfriendly.[/b]

David said:

Quote:

I had an intelligent legal secretary, with a degree
in computer sciences, who murdered her grandparents
out of religious considerations.

Quote:

That sounds kind of curious- murder of your grandparents out of religious considerations.
Do you remember the details of her reasoning there?

I spoke in error.

That was not among her religious statements.
She deemed them to be in cahoots with the government against her.
She 's a sweet girl; pretty too.
She was a good secretary, in her early years of service.

Quote:

*Are you angry at me- you used to be so much more friendly to me...
Certainly not.
There is no reason for anger.

Quote:

Well, I wasn't aware of any, but so often it seems I do spend my time on this forum
totally unaware of most of the little nuances....

I am equally unaware of them.

Quote:

( At what time of the evening shall we meet ? )
David

Quote:

You'll have to tell me- you know the restaurant- etc.- and I'm always flexible.

6:30ish ?
Subject to the viscisitudes of NYC traffic ?

Quote:

I'll call you closer to the date, okay?

Yes.
I FORGOT that I gave u my fone number.

Quote:

P.S.:
It was never my intention to have been unfriendly.[/b]

Quote:

I'm glad to hear that-I was worried I had offended you in some way.

I remain 100% unoffended.

I remain 100% unoffended.

Yes.
I FORGOT that I gave u my fone number.

David said:

Quote:

Yes.
I FORGOT that I gave u my fone number.

Quote:

Yep- you gave it to me, and I've written it safely in my address book,
so I'll call you when I hit the US (mid -August) just to confirm everything-

It has been my long established practice to tell people
to " keep calling " in that I 'm in and out a lot;
unless we select a particular time for the call.

Quote:

I'll be taking the train in from NJ or down from wherever the station is
around where I'll be living in NY (which is still up in the air at this point)
so if you give me the address of the restaurant,
I'll get my dad to help me work out the train schedule, etc. so I can get there promptly at 6:30.

17 Barrow Street, NY, NY, NY; just a few steps east of 7th Ave,
on the south ( downtown ) side of Barrow Street.
It now goes by the name of " One if By Land, Two if By Sea ".

Quote:

Oh wait, it wasn't you, it was your girfriend who got all bent out of shape about lateness-
but you won't be late and leave me hanging will you?

Probably not; chances of that happening : c.15%,
subject to the uncertainties of traffic, but I can 't deny that it has happened b4 over the last 50 years.

I 'll probably be there first.

Quote:

Just kidding, don't worry about it- I'll just walk around the block a couple of times
or something- check out the neighborhood....
I'm very good at occupying myself....

It has a bar, and comfortable seating,
tho I remember that u said that u like to walk.
Perhaps u can explain that to me.