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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 04:56 pm
Well, I don't know if it's stress or what. Been experiencing a lot lately. But, I found out my brother is seriously ill. A symptom of that illness is severe headache. Maybe a sympathetic headache? I have rarely in my life experienced anything I would call a headache, except a bit with hangover. Today, I have one. I was surprised to open the med cabinet and find my regular aspirin expired in Dec., 2002. So I checked the extra strength formula for body aches and the like. Expired, 2005. That's when I decided to double check everything else in there. As it happens, I didn't throw away anything else, but I know now how easy it is to overlook these things.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 06:21 pm
Did you take them anyway?
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 06:23 pm
Sorry to hear about your brother, edgar.

How's the headache now?


Joe(throw all that crap in the medicine cabinet away.)Nation
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 06:24 pm
I was afraid to. little k. I went down and bought a nifty new bottle of one hundred, that expires in 2009.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 06:32 pm
edgar wrote :

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I went down and bought a nifty new bottle of one hundred, that expires in 2009.


are you planning to hang around for a long time or will the remainder of the pills go into your estate - evenly divided , i hope !
MAY YOU LVE A LONG LIFE , EDGAR ! and have some fun while you are at it ! Very Happy
hbg
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 06:34 pm
I plan to be here long enough to see if the 60s are as hysterical this next time around, as they were in the 20th Century.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 08:18 pm
Thanks for the reminder to check those expiration dates. I can be mmmm a bit bad about that, particularly with sinus junk. I'll pick up some new meds when I'm on the road later this week.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 08:37 pm
I once asked a doctor about expiration dates. She said that generally drugs just lose their efficacy as they age - they don't go bad like meat or milk - more like going flat like soda.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 08:41 pm
Back in the lab, we could never used conjugated antisera past the given expiration date, and never did, on research or patients. On the other hand, I did run some oldies along with the fresh stuff, and they behaved the same. I tested that out over time, same and same. Well, that's anecdotal. The cost of the fresh antisera will be seen in your bill...

(This is not a promotion for using expired stuff. Just musing.)





Edit - I'm aware protein breaks down over time in a refrigerator or regular old freezer situation. Not all so fast in our lab.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 08:48 pm
Funny story- Years ago, there was an over the counter medicine called Bronkaid. It was for asthma. I think that the name is still out there, but they have changed the formula, and it is nowhere near as effective.

Anyhow, I had found that the old Bronkaid, which had ephedrine and phenobarbitol in it, was very good for mild depression. A couple of years ago, I was digging around in the back of a closet, and found a carton of the old Bronkaid. The expiration date was 1985. Each pill was in its own silver covering, and the pills looked fine. And they worked fine. I was very upset when I used up that last pill!
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Miller
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 09:55 pm
littlek wrote:
I once asked a doctor about expiration dates. She said that generally drugs just lose their efficacy as they age - they don't go bad like meat or milk - more like going flat like soda.


For some drugs, that's true. For others, as the meds degrade, toxic by-products are produced that either kill you or cause renal damage.
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Miller
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 09:57 pm
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Funny story- Years ago, there was an over the counter medicine called Bronkaid. It was for asthma. I think that the name is still out there, but they have changed the formula, and it is nowhere near as effective.

Anyhow, I had found that the old Bronkaid, which had ephedrine and phenobarbitol in it, was very good for mild depression. A couple of years ago, I was digging around in the back of a closet, and found a carton of the old Bronkaid. The expiration date was 1985. Each pill was in its own silver covering, and the pills looked fine. And they worked fine. I was very upset when I used up that last pill!


Phenobarbitol in an OTC med? Boy, those were the good old days...
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 10:00 pm
Miller wrote:
littlek wrote:
I once asked a doctor about expiration dates. She said that generally drugs just lose their efficacy as they age - they don't go bad like meat or milk - more like going flat like soda.


For some drugs, that's true. For others, as the meds degrade, toxic by-products are produced that either kill you or cause renal damage.


Common household drugs? Which drugs do this?
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Miller
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 10:02 pm
littlek wrote:
Miller wrote:
littlek wrote:
I once asked a doctor about expiration dates. She said that generally drugs just lose their efficacy as they age - they don't go bad like meat or milk - more like going flat like soda.


For some drugs, that's true. For others, as the meds degrade, toxic by-products are produced that either kill you or cause renal damage.


Common household drugs? Which drugs do this?


The antibiotics referred to as the tetracyclines, for example.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 10:05 pm
Oh! I wouldn't use expired antibiotics. Good to know!
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 10:14 pm
BTW edgar, why arent you taking an aspirin a day as a clo buster. You like playing roulette?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 10:30 pm
BTW edgar, why arent you taking an aspirin a day as a clo buster. You like playing roulette?

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I take a combo of vitamin E, garlic, and magnesium, instead. No doc ever told me I need aspirin.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 10:38 pm
I'm not so sure anyone needs a whole aspirin, the thing now is baby aspirin.

From some notes in my memory, one aspirin has effects for several days, something like five.

Not good if you are a bleeder.

Really, all this stuff should be figured out with your md.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 10:39 pm
How bout if we get CowDoc ? That good enough for you?
An aspirin a day is a good idea with or without your doc being involved. (Just tell her that youve started taking an aspirin a day)
BTW, the new advice is one enteric aspirin a day, not a single baby aspirin, taken with water so it doesnt erode tissue.

You may thank me later.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 10:42 pm
Advice from whom, the aspirin company?

I'll listen if you show me, show me., and then show me. I'm wary. There are TWO kinds of strokes.
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