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Reply Sat 12 May, 2007 06:46 pm
1.Highish birth and a smooth network of appropriate connection like a tea service written into the will.
"a tea service written into the will", is there a similarity between the will and highish birth & network of connection? paraphrase this sentence in easy-understanding way, please!
2.Set to go off, my good looks and intelligence, yet exceptional still, take away my mouthful of silver spoon and lapful of luxury. Something my own, not passed on or handed down, something seized, wrested?-my good character, hopefully, my taste perhaps. What's mine, what's mine? Say taste?-the soul's harmless appetite.

"set to go off",means what in this context? need not to take my good looks and intelligence into account?

"yet exceptional still,take away my mouthful.........of luxury" does it mean"if or suppose my fortune and highish position were taken away"?

"Something my own, not passed on or handed down, something seized, wrested?-my good character, hopefully, my taste perhaps."----paraphrase:My success comes from some good qualities of my own, which couldnot passed on or handed down.I hold these characters firmly.These characters may be my taste.

say taste.----what does say mean here? it expresses possibility? or anything else?

taste-the soul's harmless appetite.-----Is there harmful appetite of soul in the world?

3.I've money, I am rich.The heir to four fortunes.
as I see, "I've money""I am rich"indicate the sameness. also, lacking a conjunction.what's the ralation between these two parts?"I've money,"so"I am rich"? or "I've money"

furthernore,I have a lot of money.

The heir to four fortunes. this is not a complete sentence, but a fragment followed by a period. what's the relation of it and the former sentences? can you paraphrase them for me?

4.Grandmother on Father's side was a Salts, whose bottled mineral water, once available only through prescription and believed indispensable in the cure of all fevers, was the first product ever to be reviewed by the Food and Drug Administration, a famous and controversial case. The government found it to contain nothing that was actually detrimental

to human beings, and it went public, so to speak.

----to be reviewed, review means check, right? why does the word detrimental typing in italic?is there a specific purpose for the author by doing this?
----it went public.means:it was reviewed harmless to human being so it was allowed to sell in public places? or "It came into the market"?
----so to speak. means"it is said so"? Am I right?
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graham2007
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2007 10:53 pm
thanks in advance!
is there anyone who can help?
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Roberta
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2007 11:24 pm
Re: ask for your help!
My responses are in all capital letters below.


graham2007 wrote:
1.Highish birth and a smooth network of appropriate connection like a tea service written into the will.
"a tea service written into the will", is there a similarity between the will and highish birth & network of connection? paraphrase this sentence in easy-understanding way, please!

ELEGANT AND EXPENSIVE SILVER TEA SERVICES WERE OWNED BY RICH PEOPLE. (THEY PROBABLY STILL ARE.) THEY WERE HIGHLY VALUED AND WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE PASSED ON FROM ONE GENERATION TO THE NEXT--LIKE IN A WILL.
2.Set to go off, my good looks and intelligence, yet exceptional still, take away my mouthful of silver spoon and lapful of luxury. Something my own, not passed on or handed down, something seized, wrested?-my good character, hopefully, my taste perhaps. What's mine, what's mine? Say taste?-the soul's harmless appetite.

"set to go off",means what in this context? need not to take my good looks and intelligence into account? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THIS MEANS THE WRITING STYLE IS VERY STILTED.

"yet exceptional still,take away my mouthful.........of luxury" does it mean"if or suppose my fortune and highish position were taken away"?

I THINK THIS MEANS THAT EVEN IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE WEALTH, THIS PERSON WOULD STILL HAVE GOOD LOOKS AND INTELLIGENCE.

"Something my own, not passed on or handed down, something seized, wrested?-my good character, hopefully, my taste perhaps."----paraphrase:My success comes from some good qualities of my own, which couldnot passed on or handed down.I hold these characters firmly.These characters may be my taste. NOT EXACTLY. THE NARRATOR IS SAYING THAT HE DIDN'T INHERIT THESE QUALITIES. THEY'RE PART OF WHO HE IS.

say taste.----what does say mean here? it expresses possibility? or anything else? THE QUALITIES HE'S TALKING ABOUT MAKE UP HIS TASTE.

taste-the soul's harmless appetite.-----Is there harmful appetite of soul in the world? THERE CAN BE. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S SUGGESTED HERE. ALL THAT THE CHARACTER IS SAYING IS REFERRING TO WHAT HE LIKES--WHAT HIS PREFERENCES ARE.

3.I've money, I am rich.The heir to four fortunes.
as I see, "I've money""I am rich"indicate the sameness. also, lacking a conjunction.what's the ralation between these two parts?"I've money,"so"I am rich"? or "I've money" WRITING, ESPECIALLY WRITING IN A WORK OF FICTION OR SOMETHING THAT'S PERSONAL, DOES NOT ALWAYS CONFORM TO THE NORMS OF GRAMMAR. YES, I'VE MONEY, I'M RICH ARE SAYING THE SAME THING (ALTHOUGH BEING RICH AND HAVING MONEY ARE NOT ALWAYS THE SAME THING. PEOPLE CAN BE RICH IN OTHER WAYS BESIDES MONEY.)

furthernore,I have a lot of money.

The heir to four fortunes. this is not a complete sentence, but a fragment followed by a period. what's the relation of it and the former sentences? can you paraphrase them for me? YES, IT'S A SENTENCE FRAGMENT. IT MEANS THAT THIS PERSON WILL INHERIT MONEY (OR HAS INHERITED MONEY) FROM FOUR DIFFERENT SOURCES. MAYBE A RICH UNCLE, A GRANDFATHER ON ONE SIDE OF THE FAMILY, PARENTS, ETC.

4.Grandmother on Father's side was a Salts, whose bottled mineral water, once available only through prescription and believed indispensable in the cure of all fevers, was the first product ever to be reviewed by the Food and Drug Administration, a famous and controversial case. The government found it to contain nothing that was actually detrimental

to human beings, and it went public, so to speak.

----to be reviewed, review means check, right? IN A WAY. THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION INVESTIGATES THE SAFETY OF PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET. why does the word detrimental typing in italic?is there a specific purpose for the author by doing this? YES. IT SUGGESTS THAT THE WATER DIDN'T HURT ANYBODY, BUT LIKELY DIDN'T HELP ANYBODY EITHER.
----it went public.means:it was reviewed harmless to human being so it was allowed to sell in public places? or "It came into the market"?
----so to speak. means"it is said so"? Am I right?THE WATER WAS ORIGINALLY SOLD AS A PRESCRIPTION. ONCE IT WAS INVESTIGATED AND FOUND TO BE NOT HARMFUL, IT WAS SOLD WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION--TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2007 11:40 pm
graham the original texts you post make only a little sense in english. I suspect they are either poor translations or incomplete paragraphs.


like a tea service written into a will appears to be a simile but it is a poor simile.
{He had a].. Highish birth and a smooth network of appropriate connection[s]like a politician in election mode

A simile is a comparison of two unlike things, typically marked by use of "like", "as" or "than". Examples include "the snow was as thick as a blanket", or "she was as smart as a crow".

2.Set to go off may mean "at its peak" or "about to reach its use by date."

A very poorly written sentence.
my good looks and intelligence, though exceptional still, reduce the advantages of my silver spoon and lapfull of luxury
[I want/have?]Something my own, not passed on or handed down, something seized, wrested?-my good character[?] hopefully... my taste[?]perhaps. What's mine, what's mine? Say taste?-the soul's harmless appetite.
(Thats garbage graham)

3.I've money, I am rich.
"I've money" could be interpreted as reasonable income, rather than the RICH intended.

There is also an implied modesty by the speaker.
"I am an extremely wealthy person with bag fulls of money would seem to most english speakers to be bragging.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2007 11:52 pm
dadpad, Poorly written is an understatement.
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graham2007
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 07:36 am
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WRITING, ESPECIALLY WRITING IN A WORK OF FICTION OR SOMETHING THAT'S PERSONAL, DOES NOT ALWAYS CONFORM TO THE NORMS OF GRAMMAR.

you said it. thank u for your detailed help!
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graham2007
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 07:49 am
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Set to go off may mean "at its peak" or "about to reach its use by date."

great,dadpad! this, though a little phrase, really puzzled me!
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graham2007
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 07:57 am
but Father's company had the message on its matchbooks before his competitors even knew what was happening), removed the hazard from book matches and turned the industry and Father's firm particularly into a flaming success overnight?-Father's joke, not mine.

flaming success---flaming is used as a pun? here the narrator's father own a matchbook company and obviously achieve great success. flaming means great fire, I think!
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graham2007
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 08:05 am
original sentences:
Later, when the inroads of Ronson and Zippo threatened the business, Father went into seclusion for six months and when he returned to us he had produced another slogan:?'For Our Matchless Friends.'It saved the industry a second time and was the second and last piece of work in Father's life.

inroad means attack?or anything else?
for our matchless friends---matchless, a pun?? am I right?
haha, I am crazy about this language! mystery and unknown! I am curious!
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graham2007
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 08:16 am
Après ski, cozy in their wools, handsome before their open hearths, they scandalize amongst themselves in whispers.?'Imagine', they say,?'saved from ruin because of some cornball sentiment available in every bar and grill and truck stop in the country. It's not, not...'

also from the same passage!
what's Après ski? in their wools, wools are clothes they wears or sofa they sit at?
"imagine saved from ruin because of some cornball sentiment available in every bar and grill and truck stop?" it's difficult for me to understand! I only can learn that some people(?) look down upon the people as the narrator, would you like to paraphrase for me?
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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 08:21 am
graham2007 wrote:
but Father's company had the message on its matchbooks before his competitors even knew what was happening), removed the hazard from book matches and turned the industry and Father's firm particularly into a flaming success overnight?-Father's joke, not mine.

flaming success---flaming is used as a pun?NOT SO MUCH A PUN AS A PLAY ON WORDS. here the narrator's father own a matchbook company and obviously achieve great success. flaming means great fire, I think!
FLAMING DOES NOT MEAN A GREAT FIRE IN THIS CONTEXT. IT'S ANOTHER PLAY ON WORDS. A FLAMING SUCCESS MEANS A HUGE SUCCESS. A ROARING SUCCESS.

original sentences:
Later, when the inroads of Ronson and Zippo threatened the business, Father went into seclusion for six months and when he returned to us he had produced another slogan:?'For Our Matchless Friends.'It saved the industry a second time and was the second and last piece of work in Father's life.

inroad means attack?or anything else? NO, AN INROAD IS A BIT OF PROGRESS AGAINST THE COMPETITION.
for our matchless friends---matchless, a pun?? am I right? YES
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graham2007
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 08:38 am
thank you, roberta, it's a great help! go on with the next one,please!
I come of good stock?-real estate, mineral water, oxygen, matchbooks: earth, water, air and fire, the old elementals of the material universe, a bellybutton economics, a linchpin one.
real estate, mineral water, oxygen, matchbooks: earth, water, air and fire---these four are matched with those four, something his father, his grandmother on his mother's side, his grandfather,and his grandmother on his father's side. but what's a bellybutton economics? it's abstract to understand for me. it's related to economics?
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graham2007
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 08:40 am
I come of good stock
stock, shares? or source?
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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 02:21 pm
graham2007 wrote:
thank you, roberta, it's a great help! go on with the next one,please!
I come of good stock?-real estate, mineral water, oxygen, matchbooks: earth, water, air and fire, the old elementals of the material universe, a bellybutton economics, a linchpin one.
real estate, mineral water, oxygen, matchbooks: earth, water, air and fire---these four are matched with those four, something his father, his grandmother on his mother's side, his grandfather,and his grandmother on his father's side. but what's a bellybutton economics? it's abstract to understand for me. it's related to economics?


I come of good stock
stock, shares? or source?

NO. GOOD STOCK REFERS TO HIS FAMILY. HE COMES FROM A GOOD FAMILY. THINK OF A PRIZE-WINNING THOROUGHBRED HORSE. THE HORSE COMES FROM GOOD STOCK--GOOD PARENTAGE.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 06:38 pm
Apres ski menas after skiing.

Apres is a french word adopted into english.

"wools are clothes they wears or sofa they sit at?"
Clothing.
It would be more correct to say woolens I think.


"imagine saved from ruin because of some cornball sentiment available in every bar and grill and truck stop?"

need to know more of the context to decipher this. what sentiment.

"Flaming" in Australia is used, sometimes, as an emphasiser, although less often in modern times, possibly as a substitute for a swear word. In most cases the end g is not sounded.

He's a flamin great idoit. His flamin' dog bit me. roberta is a flamin great mental case.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 11:11 pm
dadpad wrote:
Apres
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He's a flamin great idoit. His flamin' dog bit me. roberta is a flamin great mental case.


Dadpad, Who? Me? Shocked I'm not a flamin' mental case. I'm flamin' possessed. Twisted Evil
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graham2007
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 06:55 am
thank you roberta,thank you dadpad!
1. open hearth? what is a open heart? please describe for me!

2. they scandalize amongst themselves in whispers.?'Imagine', they say,?'saved from ruin because of some cornball sentiment available in every bar and grill and truck stop in the country. It's not, not...'
they say means someone said that....?
explain this sentence for me, please!

3.I come of good stock?-real estate, mineral water, oxygen, matchbooks: earth, water, air and fire, the old elementals of the material universe, a bellybutton economics, a linchpin one.

what is a bellybutton economics??
sorry to bother you!
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Roberta
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 04:50 pm
graham2007 wrote:
thank you roberta,thank you dadpad!
1. open hearth? what is a open heart? please describe for me!A HEARTH (NOT A WORD OFTEN USED ANYMORE) CAN BE EITHER A FIREPLACE OR THE AREA IN FRONT OF A FIREPLACE. IN THE OLDEN DAYS, PEOPLE USED TO COOK OVER AN OPEN HEARTH.

2. they scandalize amongst themselves in whispers.?'Imagine', they say,?'saved from ruin because of some cornball sentiment available in every bar and grill and truck stop in the country. It's not, not...'
they say means someone said that....?
explain this sentence for me, please!"THEY SAY" MEANS PEOPLE SAY. IT'S AN EXPRESSION USED TO SUGGEST THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT (USUALLY AN OPINION). FOR EXAMPLE, THEY SAY THAT ALL GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT.

3.I come of good stock?-real estate, mineral water, oxygen, matchbooks: earth, water, air and fire, the old elementals of the material universe, a bellybutton economics, a linchpin one.

what is a bellybutton economics??
sorry to bother you!
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT BELLYBUTTON ECONOMICS ARE. THE CONTEXT DOESN'T HELP. A LINCHPIN IS SOMETHING THAT HOLDS EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

THIS IS A WILD GUESS. YOUR BELLYBUTTON IS WHERE YOUR UMBILICAL CHORD WAS CONNECTED. THE ITEMS RELATE TO THE BASICS OF LIVE--EARTH, WATER, AIR, AND FIRE. MAYBE THAT'S THE CONNECTION. I'M NOT GETTING THIS FROM THE LANGUAGE THOUGH. JUST TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

THE WRITING IN THE PIECE YOU'RE WORKING ON IS TRULY AWFUL. IT'S NO BOTHER. I WISH I COULD BE MORE HELPFUL.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 05:44 pm
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2. they scandalize amongst themselves in whispers.?'Imagine', they say,?'[being] saved from ruin because of some cornball sentiment available in every bar and grill and truck stop in the country. It's not, not...'
they say means someone said that....?
explain this sentence for me, please!

This is about the mathbook business is it not?
matchbooks sometimes have homilys printed on them. something like "look after your pennies and the pounds (dollars) will look after themselves"

The matchbook company was saved by printing a homily on its cover and distributing (selling) them to every truck stop in the country.



Quote:
3. I come of good stock?-real estate, mineral water, oxygen, matchbooks: earth, water, air and fire, the old elementals of the material universe, a bellybutton economics, a linchpin one.


I come of good stock I COME FROM A WELL RESPECTED FAMILY.
real estate, mineral water, oxygen, matchbooks: THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAKE MY FAMILY WEALTHY AND RESPECTED.
real estate IS EARTH mineral water IS WATER, oxygen IS AIR, matchbooks ARE FIRE.

a bellybutton economics, a linchpin one... REFERS TO BEING CENTRED AROUND... A BABIES' MAIN NUTRIENT SUPPLY IS FROM THE BELLYBUTTON, IT CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT THIS INPUT. ITS WHOLE BEING DEPENDS ON THIS INPUT.

IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE (BELLYBUTTON, LYNCHPIN) ECONOMICS {EARTH (REAL ESTATATE) AIR (OXYGEN) FIRE (MATCHBOOKS) WATER ( MINERAL WATER)} IT (THE NARRATOR AND HIS FAMILY AND BUSINESS) CANNOT SURVIVE.

sorry about all the brackets, I hope it doesnt make things more confusing.
Graham if you have a choice find something else to practice you english skills with. This piece of writing is truly awfull. It is VERY difficult to understand the concepts and emotions the author is trying to convey.
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graham2007
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 06:36 am
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Phooey on the First Families. On railroad, steel mill, automotive, public utility, banking and shipping fortunes, on all hermetic legacy, morganatic and blockbuster blood-lines that change the maps and landscapes and alter the mobility patterns, your jungle wheeling and downtown dealing a stone's throw from warfare.

1.Phooey on the First Families
what's the first family?
2.that change the maps and landscapes and alter the mobility patterns, your jungle wheeling and downtown dealing a stone's throw from warfare. what change??the maps and landscapes means what?
3.your jungle wheeling and downtown dealing a stone's throw from warfare---this really puzzled me!!
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