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9/11 CONSPIRACY - EVEN A CAVEMAN FIGURED IT OUT!

 
 
Zippo
 
Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 01:13 pm
9/11 CONSPIRACY - EVEN A CAVEMAN FIGURED IT OUT!

Watch this 30 second YouTube video

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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 11:08 am
Here is someone intelligent

Zippo
I have been looking for you and I said I will be back.
Apparently you are related to the caveman.
I like this guy in this link better. Razz
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 11:27 am
Scholars debate 9/11 findings

JOHN GLEESON
Edmonton Sun
Wednesday April 18, 2007

An unbiased observer doesn't need to look beyond what's happening on the ground today in Iraq and Afghanistan to conclude the War on Terror has been a brutal, manipulative means to a transparently self-serving end.

None of this is news, however, to proponents of "9/11 Truth," a worldwide movement that seems to keep growing despite an unofficial media blackout on their questions and investigations. So what are these "Truthers" saying?

Many people were quick to declare 9/11 a possible "inside job" based on the visible facts themselves, in particular the blanket failure of air defence, which even former Minnesota governor Jesse Ventura said defied all logic and precedent. They also seized on the history (largely unknown in North America) of Pentagon-linked "false-flag" terrorist attacks in Europe during the Cold War, and CIA involvement with al-Qaida operations.

With the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, it was seen that 9/11 was amazingly fortuitous to the Bush administration, elements of which had been looking for excuses to invade both countries -- for purely strategic-commercial reasons -- in the months and years prior to the attacks.

But it was the release of the 9/11 Commission Report in 2004 that breathed full life into the 9/11 Truth Movement -- because it was now apparent to many that the "official story" relied on massive distortion and evasion.

The most dramatically disputed aspect of 9/11 is the question of what the world really saw that day in New York City, when three steel-frame high-rises -- the 110-storey Twin Towers and the 47-storey WTC 7 -- collapsed at near free-fall speed neatly into their own footprints.

In 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out (Olive Branch Press, 2007), former Brigham Young University physics professor Steven Jones argues forcefully that the nature of the collapses, the presence of large pools of molten metal in the basements of all three buildings, witness accounts of hearing explosions -- that these and other factors point to the conclusion all three buildings were brought down by controlled demolition.

This view, though rejected by Popular Mechanics and defenders of the status quo, has won support from engineers and academics from other disciplines. For instance, John McMurtry, a philosophy professor emeritus at the University of Guelph and fellow of the Royal Society of Canada, credits Prof. John Valleau of the Chemistry-Physics Research Group at University of Toronto for drawing his attention to "this scientific anomaly." McMurtry concludes: "The instant and inexplicable collapses of the WTC buildings in uniform demolition style could not be explained by fire (plus, in the case of the Twin Towers, the impact of the airplanes) without contradicting the laws of engineering physics."

David Ray Griffin, a former theology professor from California who has become a leading voice of 9/11 dissent, also points to the destruction of evidence after the collapse -- most of the steel was quickly hauled away and shipped to Asia, where it was melted down.

"Although it is normally a federal offence to remove evidence from a crime scene, the removal of the steel, which was carefully overseen, was facilitated by federal officials," Griffin wrote.

You can see why these scholars are calling for an independent, preferably international investigation into 9/11.
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 11:36 am
I will be back to refute that other ridiculous post if it is still available.

Remember, I bought the 9/11 commission report book.
I will refute every lie on that video based on this report that had some incredible meticulous staff who went through 2.5 million pages of documents and interviewed more than 12,000 people in ten countries. I won't forget.

The book however is quite large. Anyone else if you don't like the USA then go home. I personally don't care. Leave and go back to your country.
I tell my mother and sister the same thing. If you don't like it here go back to Germany. You are a visitor.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 11:38 am
why don't you just form a vigilante group and kill everyone who is not 100% pro America Sgt. Rock?
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 11:41 am
That is the beauty of living here. People died so I can voice my opinion.
If you don't like it, move on. Seems pretty simple to me.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 11:45 am
TTH wrote:
That is the beauty of living here. People died so I can voice my opinion.
If you don't like it, move on. Seems pretty simple to me.


How about instead of 'moving on,' we make fun of you? That's equally simple and far, far more entertaining for everyone involved.

You seem to be the typical 'ignorant' conservative; cocksure in your patriotism, devoid of logic, arrogant.

Cycloptichorn
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 11:46 am
I didn't realize they died so you could say whatever you feel like, but apparently I can't and have to move on, Adolph. Laughing
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 11:50 am
Feel free. It is in writing. It is on the riddle forum. I am free today. So, if that makes you feel better go ahead. Laughing Laughing
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 11:54 am
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For instance, John McMurtry, a philosophy professor emeritus at the University of Guelph and fellow of the Royal Society of Canada, ..." McMurtry concludes: "The instant and inexplicable collapses of the WTC buildings in uniform demolition style could not be explained by fire (plus, in the case of the Twin Towers, the impact of the airplanes) without contradicting the laws of engineering physics."


What the heck does a philosophy professor know about physics?

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David Ray Griffin, a former theology professor from California who has become a leading voice of 9/11 dissent,
Now we have moved from philosphy to religion. Great....

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You can see why these scholars are calling for an independent, preferably international investigation into 9/11.

Sure we can. These scholars don't know the first thing about physics. That is pretty obvious. I doubt either of them could tell you the equation for Force or torque let alone describe anything about metallurgy.
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 12:15 pm
Hey that is great.

It is called free speech, you can have your opinion. I love it. It means I can talk.
It is even in writing. It is in the Constitution. That document allows me to speak my opinion and you too.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 12:19 pm
TTH wrote:
Hey that is great.

It is called free speech, you can have your opinion. I love it. It means I can talk.
It is even in writing. It is in the Constitution. That document allows me to speak my opinion and you too.


Wow, thanks for cluing us in on this one. Why, I'm sure that none of us here realized that we had a freedom to speak before this.

Cycloptichorn
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 12:27 pm
parados, here's what it says without your editing,
"For instance, John McMurtry, a philosophy professor emeritus at the University of Guelph and fellow of the Royal Society of Canada, credits Prof. John Valleau of the Chemistry-Physics Research Group at University of Toronto for drawing his attention to "this scientific anomaly." The philosophy professor emeritus turned to Prof. John Valleau of the Chemistry-Physics Research Group at University of Toronto. With Steve Jones report even laymen can understand what they're saying. The ingrediants of the molten metal contain a substance that shouldn't be there. Sulphar. That is how it's done in demolitions. You can check out Steve Jones research if you want. Science made simple. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=529253447051382848
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 12:27 pm
Just for the record, there was a conspiracy enacted on September 11th. It was conceived and planned by al Qaeda, and carried into execution by 15 Saudis, three Lebanese and one Egyptian. Any other, different allegations of conspiracy are worth exactly what you paid to read them here.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 12:37 pm
I think that's the majority opinion big dawg...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 12:39 pm
How come all y'all are always copyin' my **** . . . huh, huh ? ! ? ! ?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 01:12 pm
imitation dude..... sincerest form of flattery.... kinda like a nice belly rub....
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 01:20 pm
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060522022041421
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 01:22 pm
I don't believe that the bush administration was involved in 9/11.... however were I to learn they were I would not be shocked. They have destroyed my faith in my current government to that extent.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 01:41 pm


I find this very curious. If you search with "zogby+9/11," you get this story again and again, on September 11th conspiracy sites. In most cases, the reports are identical from one site to the other. In the report which is linked above, there is a paragraph which reads:

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The poll is the first scientific survey of Americans' belief in a 9/11 cover up or the need to investigate possible US government complicity, and was commissioned to inform deliberations at the June 2-4 "9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future" conference in Chicago. Poll results indicate 42% believe there has indeed been a cover up (with 10% unsure) and 45% think "Congress or an International Tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any US government officials consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success" (with 8% unsure). The poll of American residents was conducted from Friday, May 12 through Tuesday, May 16, 2006. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/- 2.9. All inquiries about questions, responses and demographics should be directed to Zogby International.


However, if you go to the Zogby web site, you won't be able to find the poll which is reported as described above. The report claims that the poll was conducted from May 12 through May 16, 2006. But, i went to the Zogby site, and did a search with the simple criterion "9/11." If you wish to see the search results, which i cannot link, then just go to Zogby-dot-com, and conduct the search yourself. There is no poll listed at Zogby's web site on the subject of 9/11 conducted in May, 2006.

Gosh . . . you don't think the September 11th conspiracy boys and girls would lie to us do you ? ! ? ! ?
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