Who resurrected Jesus?

18Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

21But he spake of the temple of his body.

Don't throw it away before you answer, please.

Do you believe Jesus' statement in John 2, or not?

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18Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

21But he spake of the temple of his body.

real life wrote:

Don't throw it away before you answer, please.

Do you believe Jesus' statement in John 2, or not?

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18Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

21But he spake of the temple of his body.

I'm still working on this, but you realize that A similar mode of expression takes place in Luke 8:48 when Jesus said to the woman "your faith has made you well." If we apply your line of reasoning, then we would have to conclude the woman healed herself.

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Faith is a verb which requires an object.

real life wrote:

Faith is a verb which requires an object.

That's damn funny.

Haven't you ever faithed?

neologist wrote:

Haven't you ever faithed?

Many times I have been the victim of attempted faithing, but that was years ago. Although the Saturday faithers still regularly patrol my neighborhood, they no longer stop at my door. :wink:

mesquite wrote:

real life wrote:

Faith is a verb which requires an object.

That's damn funny.

Haven't you ever faithed?

neologist wrote:

mesquite wrote:

real life wrote:

Faith is a verb which requires an object.

That's damn funny.

Haven't you ever faithed?

Yep my bad. That's what I get for typing a hurried reply.

In any case, faith requires an object.

To say, "I have faith," is an incomplete thought. Faith in who, or what?

The woman had faith in God, the context makes that clear. The NT doesn't state or imply that she had the power to heal herself.

Jesus' statement on the other hand, clearly and explicitly puts forth the fact that Jesus would raise Himself after three days and three nights in the grave.

A person's beliefs and hopes about a treatment, combined with their suggestibility, may have a significant biochemical effect. Sensory experience and thoughts can affect neurochemistry. The body's neurochemical system affects and is affected by other biochemical systems, including the hormonal and immune systems. Thus, it is consistent with current knowledge that a person's hopeful attitude and beliefs may be very important to their physical well-being and recovery from injury or illness

real life wrote:

neologist wrote:

mesquite wrote:

real life wrote:

Faith is a verb which requires an object.

That's damn funny.

Haven't you ever faithed?

Yep my bad. That's what I get for typing a hurried reply.

In any case, faith requires an object.

To say, "I have faith," is an incomplete thought. Faith in who, or what?

The woman had faith in God, the context makes that clear. The NT doesn't state or imply that she had the power to heal herself.

Jesus' statement on the other hand, clearly and explicitly puts forth the fact that Jesus would raise Himself after three days and three nights in the grave.

In the example given in Luke 8:47-48, the only thing clearly implied is that she had faith that touching Jesus would heal her. Today we call this the placebo effect.

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A person's beliefs and hopes about a treatment, combined with their suggestibility, may have a significant biochemical effect. Sensory experience and thoughts can affect neurochemistry. The body's neurochemical system affects and is affected by other biochemical systems, including the hormonal and immune systems. Thus, it is consistent with current knowledge that a person's hopeful attitude and beliefs may be very important to their physical well-being and recovery from injury or illness

http://skepdic.com/placebo.html

au1929 wrote:

The question I would ask when was Jesus resurrected

Jesus arose after being in the tomb three days and three nights .

real life wrote:

au1929 wrote:

The question I would ask when was Jesus resurrected

Jesus arose after being in the tomb three days and three nights .

Jesus was supposedly crucified on a Friday and raised Sunday morning. That's only two nights. So did he go back to his tomb Sunday evening and spend another night dead, or what?

Out of curiosity , what your stances be on all the books rejected by the council of nicea, ie gospel of thomas, gospel of judas, gospel of philip, etc etc

au1929 wrote:

The question I would ask when was Jesus resurrected

Jesus arose after being in the tomb three days and three nights .

Greetings,

real life wrote:

au1929 wrote:

The question I would ask when was Jesus resurrected

Jesus arose after being in the tomb three days and three nights .

No he didn't.

According to the NT, he was crucified Friday night and rose on Sunday morning - that's about 1.5 days, including 2 nights.


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Luke 23:53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.

54And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

John 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away

Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

Luke 23:56a And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments.....

Luke 23:56b ........and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Luke 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

Matt 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

John 2:18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

21But he spake of the temple of his body.

There is nothing in the NT that says He was crucified on Friday.

He was crucified on the day before the first day of Passover.

He was placed in the tomb shortly before evening as the Passover (The first of Passover being a sabbath, often also referred to as a 'high Sabbath' or 'high Day') was about to begin.

1Now the Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread were only two days away, and the chief priests and the teachers of the law were looking for some sly way to arrest Jesus and kill him. 2"But not during the Feast," they said, "or the people may riot."

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12On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when it was customary to sacrifice the Passover lamb, Jesus' disciples asked him, "Where do you want us to go and make preparations for you to eat the Passover?"
13So he sent two of his disciples, telling them, "Go into the city, and a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him. 14Say to the owner of the house he enters, 'The Teacher asks: Where is my guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?' 15He will show you a large upper room, furnished and ready. Make preparations for us there."

Mark 15:42 It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). So as evening approached, 43Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent member of the Council, who was himself waiting for the kingdom of God, went boldly to Pilate and asked for Jesus' body. 44Pilate was surprised to hear that he was already dead.

real life wrote:

There is nothing in the NT that says He was crucified on Friday.

He was crucified on the day before the first day of Passover.

He was placed in the tomb shortly before evening as the Passover (The first of Passover being a sabbath, often also referred to as a 'high Sabbath' or 'high Day') was about to begin.

No, Jesus was not crucifed before Passover:

Mark 14 wrote:

1Now the Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread were only two days away, and the chief priests and the teachers of the law were looking for some sly way to arrest Jesus and kill him. 2"But not during the Feast," they said, "or the people may riot."

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12On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when it was customary to sacrifice the Passover lamb, Jesus' disciples asked him, "Where do you want us to go and make preparations for you to eat the Passover?"
13So he sent two of his disciples, telling them, "Go into the city, and a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him. 14Say to the owner of the house he enters, 'The Teacher asks: Where is my guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?' 15He will show you a large upper room, furnished and ready. Make preparations for us there."

He ate the Passover meal with his disciples and was crucified the following day:

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Mark 15:42 It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). So as evening approached, 43Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent member of the Council, who was himself waiting for the kingdom of God, went boldly to Pilate and asked for Jesus' body. 44Pilate was surprised to hear that he was already dead.

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John all agree that Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation for the Sabbath, which was Friday afternoon (the Sabbath starts at sunset Friday), and was gone from the tomb by dawn on Sunday. His body could not have been in the tomb very long before sunset Friday (figuring time to get permission to take the body, prep and transport time), and we don't know how early on Sunday he was resurrected - it could even have been Saturday evening. He certainly was not in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights, and might possibly have spent little more than 1 day and 1 night there.