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REUTERS: Ten Percent Genetic Differences Between Races

 
 
Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 01:20 pm
REUTERS: "Ten Percent Genetic Differences Between Races"[/size][/url]

99.9% EVOLUTION THEORY OUSTED. It is now confirmed we could not have all came from common ancestors! It is impossible! God created each race uniquely and separately on different continents with different cultures that should be respecting each separate ethnic culture, not destroyed through overmixing.


New human gene map shows unexpected differences
22 Nov 2006 23:01:11 GMT
Source: Reuters
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N22205028.htm

(Recasts with fresh comment from U.S. researchers)

By Patricia Reaney

LONDON, Nov 22 (Reuters) - One person's DNA code can be as much as 10 percent different from another's, researchers said on Wednesday in a finding that questions the idea that everyone on Earth is 99.9 percent identical genetically.

They said their new version of the human genetic map, or "book of life," fills in many missing pages and chapters to explain how genes are involved in common diseases.

"This important work will help identify genetic causes of many diseases," Dr. Mark Walport, director of Britain's Wellcome Trust, said in a statement.

Instead of showing single variations in human DNA that make people unique, the map looks at differences in duplications and deletions of large DNA segments known as copy number variants or CNVs, which can help explain why some people are susceptible to illnesses such as AIDS and others are not.

"We're a patchwork of DNA sequences, gains and losses," Dr. Charles Lee of the Brigham and Women's Hospital and Harvard Medical School in Boston, Massachusetts told a news conference.

Scientists from more than a dozen centers around the world identified about 3,000 genes with variations in the number of copies of specific DNA segments. The changes can affect gene activity, including susceptibility to diseases.

The Human Genome Project mapped the billions of letters that make up the human genetic code. Scientists later refined the map by looking for single variations called SNPs or single nucleotide polymorphisms.

The CNV map gives researchers a different way to look for genes linked to diseases by identifying gains, losses and alterations in the genome.

"We estimate this to be at least 12 percent of the genome, similar in extent to SNPs. This has never been shown before," said Dr. Matthew Hurles of Britain's Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute.

He said that resistance to infection by HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, is determined in part by multiple copies of the gene CCL3L1, which cannot be seen on an SNP map.

NEW TOOLS

The scientists, whose findings are reported in the journals Nature, Nature Genetics and Genome Research, compiled the CNV map by comparing DNA from 270 healthy people in China, Japan, Nigeria and the United States.

The consortium identified 1,447 different CNVs that covered about 12 percent of the human genome. About 285 of them are associated with diseases, including schizophrenia, psoriasis, coronary heart disease and congenital cataracts.

"With these new tools, we and our clinical colleagues are able to find previously undetectable deletions or duplications of the genome in a patient. The CNV map now allows us to identify which of these changes are unique to the disease," said Dr. Nigel Carter, of the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute.

Genes important to the immune system and to brain development and activity tend to have many CNVs, the researchers said. These are functions that have evolved rapidly in humans.

"I believe this paper will change forever the field of human genetics," said James Lupski, vice chair of the Department of Molecular and Human Genetics at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas.

"One can no longer consider human traits as resulting primarily from single base-pair changes or influenced only by SNPs."

The scientists set up an Internet database to encourage researchers around the world to share information on patients with CNV details.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 01:28 pm
Original headline: "New human gene map shows unexpected differences"

The "races" thing was added on later. The article says nothing about that -- just differences among individuals.
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Miller
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 01:34 pm
Quote:
"This important work will help identify genetic causes of many diseases


Totally incorrect statment. It should read, "This important work will help to identify a genetic basis of many diseases".

A "basis" is NOT a "cause".


Cool
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 01:48 pm
this is interesting reading but I think Michaels preamble statement and his avatar shows that the main reason for this post is to push creationsim versus eveolution.

It's hard enough to get through life as a decent human being without getting a highpowered rifle and locking myself in a clock tower. I don't need to worry about whether I was created whole from the dust or evolved from blacks in Africa or came on a spaceship in a damn egg.

Who cares? We're here now.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 02:02 pm
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Panos Deloukas of the Wellcome Trust Sanger Centre near Cambridge, which conducted much of the work, said: "Humans are genetically 99.9 per cent identical: it is the tiny percentage that is different that holds the key to why some of us are more susceptible to common diseases such as diabetes and hypertension or respond differently to treatment with certain drugs."

source: timesonline
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 03:54 pm
Wow, Mikey, you've really outdone yourself this time.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 05:54 pm
This boy Michael1 had already demonstrated in a long screed which he pasted when he first showed up that his object is racist. He claimed there, as he does here, that there are separate races, and the Bobble tells us that the races must be kept separate.

This line of bullshit should come as no surprise to anyone familiar with Micheal's earlier crap.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 06:07 pm
Hey if that's true, my DNA may have more in common with a banana's than with Michael's!

That would be nice!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 06:35 pm
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me . . .

Como esta, hombre?
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 06:49 pm
Setanta wrote:
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me . . .

Como esta, hombre?


Qué tal, jefe..
I just arrived from a long weekend at Puerto Vallarta.
BTW, I took the "Pirate Ship Cruise", and next to me there was this huge Canadian, who looked like an overblown Frank Zappa, and I thought: "hey, he must be a relative of Setanta's, share some DNA, I dunno", but this Canadian NEVER smiled. The pirates knew him as "the guy in the red shirt who never smiles", so I said to myself: "this guy is not Setanta's relative": actually, the poor man was seasick, then his kid (who was 9, but looked 13: what do they feed them?) got seasick, too. OMG. Thank God the Canadian's also Canadian wife was right next to me. She did smile. And I felt safe.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 07:08 pm
jeejeejeejeejeejeejeejeejeejeejee (as i would say in Spanish)

Good to see you, me hearty . . . Check out my pirate thread some day . . .
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michael1
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2007 01:47 pm
no misquote:

subtitle reads:

Quote:
LONDON, Nov 22 (Reuters) - One person's DNA code can be as much as 10 percent different from another's, researchers said on Wednesday in a finding that questions the idea that everyone on Earth is 99.9 percent identical genetically.


Monkeys being 95-98% the same is a thing of the past. If you evolutionists want to be descendant from the monkeys that is fine. New research with these better tools is turning on all the lights. Evil's greatest foe is actually the light of day.

I prefer to believe the bible's account that I came from Adam. Also called "intelligent design". Also notice Cain was afraid of other people in the land of Nod where he got his wife. Yet Adam & Eve hadn't had their third child yet, Seth wasn't born for several hundred more years. So who were these people Cain was afraid of and where did he get his wife and bare that long list of descendants? That's one bit of info out of hundreds more that prove this that there was more than one creation and that Genesis 5:1 says that the bible is just the book of the generations of Adam, not the book of the other races.

God created each race uniquely and separately on different continents with different cultures that should be respecting each separate ethnic culture, not destroyed through overmixing. This is biblical law, and it is biblical that Adam and Eve didn't bare Cain's wife in the land of Nod.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2007 02:11 pm
Is there any thing in there that leads you to believe that this is a racial distinction? My guess is that that variance is among individuals as the article says and not between races as you seem to be saying.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2007 02:15 pm
Persons, races - all the same for michael.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 11 Apr, 2007 12:28 pm
God, what a sicko.

Your goofy image is from The Pagan Front, which bills itself as "The Hammer of National Socialist Black Metal."

By the way, what is a "Marshain?"

Yup, one sick puppy . . . and it appears, all too familiar with Neo-Nazi, white supremecist propaganda.

This is the "Statement" of The Pagan Front:

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• Pro-Aryan

The Pagan Front is a Pro-Aryan organization, and as such is against any chauvinist nationalist attitudes, which are against any other Aryan nation. Those who spread hatred between Aryans, and or amongst our brothers should know that they are our enemies.

• Proud National Socialists

The Pagan Front is certainly not a childlish "nazi" organization. We are proud National Socialists. We refer to the glorious traditions and archetypes of our Aryan roots. We do not align our organization with a "political party". We are an active Aryan Brotherhood, and should be seen as this.

• Against any Judeo-Christian influences

The Pagan Front is not a "Satanic" organization. We do not support the Christian spawned lies, nor these "cult" fools that bow to some goat idol. These idiots must seek far greater forces, ones with true meaning. It is our brotherhood that must inspire youth in their area so that they are not subject to fall into the Nihilist beliefs.

• Uniting Heathens

We are a group uniting heathen writers, artists, musicians, editors and label owners, who care for our ancestral heritage, purity of race and tradition, and are ready to defend it, when the time comes, and such actions shown, such individuals will become respected members.

• Serious activists

We are not a "fan club". We are activists fighting for the Will Of The Aryan Nation. Our members are warriors of our movement, and fight for our message and our cause, White enlightenment.

• Strong, common ideology

We are opened to the individuals who share our ideology and our belief. This will not include Nihilists or any "anti-life" type persons. They who are whole hearted can achieve 'Supporter' status, and can officially work with others within our Front and it's activities. This applies also to individuals, zines, bands, labels etc.. from the past and present as well.

• Pan-Aryan unity!

No Aryan nation is supreme above another Aryan nation. All are equal in importance. No member claims that his nation is "chosen to lead", or that it bears better values. This ideal is for the jewish provoker, and as such is without question an enemy of the Front. This also applies to any organization of the present or past. A Pagan Front member cannot support such structure, nor it may be considered as our ally.

• Against anti-Aryan philosophies

We stand strongly against philosophy that claims that nationality of Aryan man is irrelevant. This is a complete misunderstanding of the Aryan nation concept. We believe, that first we have our national heritage, traditions, customs and religion, then comes racial community.

• Zero tolerance for enemies of our race

All those who wants to destroy traditions and independence of Aryan Nations to mold everything into some sick multi-cultural mixture, is the enemy of Aryan nations, and therefore is the enemy of Pagan Front. National identity is the treasure of the Aryan Race - we must protect it!

• Gathering under the banner Swastika

The Swastika is an ancient Aryan solar symbol, used by all Aryan nations. It has a more, and much deeper ancient and mystical meaning than only a political one. It can not be connected solely to a political movement. If one does so, it is obvious that this person does not understand the true meaning of the holy Sunwheel, and doesn't deserve the honor in using it, as he is not mature enough.

• A common goal

Our Members must work towards a common goal. Again if you are not assisting us, you are holding up our progress. These goals as well as other relevant items will be discussed and decided by our Pagan Front High Council.

• Loyality to death!

We, as an Aryan brotherhood must up-hold and stand beside those within our front. We must show dignity and respect for our alliance. This is where our strength lies. We are one Pagan Front, and must have this honor, pride and respect for our comrades at all times.

The Pagan Front


Politics to make strange bedfellows, but i find it more than a little hilarious and at the same time disgusting to see a canting "Christian" like Michael1 aligning himself with a group like this.
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Chai
 
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Reply Wed 11 Apr, 2007 12:59 pm
So, all races developed on different continents separately?

But you personally are decended from Adam?

Should I take it then that Adam was, oh....I'm reaching here.....white?



If God made different peoples on different continents, was there a different Adam for each one?

Or, did Cain breed with someone not decended from Adam?

Talk about the Chosen People, lucky thing you are decended from Adam and not one of those other groups.

What if Adam wasn't white? That would mean you aren't decended from Adam.

Pity.

How have I ever missed this guy?
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Miller
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 01:06 am
The effect of race and ethnicity on kidney allograft outcome.

* Katznelson S,
* Gjertson DW,
* Cecka JM.

UCLA Tissue Typing Laboratory, Los Angeles, California, USA.

Asian recipients of cadaveric renal allografts had the best long-term survival rates. Five-year graft survival rates were 66% for 1,713 Asians, 61% for 4,722 Hispanics and 33,190 Whites, and 47% for 12,948 Blacks. This trend had already been established at one-year posttransplant. Transplant half-lives calculated after 6 months were 12 years for Asians, 10 years for Whites, 9 years for Hispanics and 5 years for Blacks. These have all improved over the last 4 years. Part of the explanation for the outstanding half-life for Asian recipients is the 15 year half-life of the 672 Asian females reported. The superior graft survival for Asian recipients may be due in part to the low incidence of sensitization, the low incidence of acute rejection and chronic rejection leading to graft loss, and the high prevalence of primary disease entities that have been associated with excellent long-term prognoses, especially IgA nephropathy and chronic glomerulonephritis. Hispanic recipients also had excellent short- and long-term graft survival rates. This may be due to having the lowest incidence of early acute rejection episodes compared with all other racial groups, and the limited deleterious effect of ATN on long-term graft survival among Hispanics. The poor overall graft survival for Black recipients may be due to poor HLA matching, a high rate of sensitization and a grim effect of sensitization on graft survival, the high incidences of acute rejection and ATN, and the high incidence of HTN both pre- and posttransplant. The only subgroups of Black recipients who had graft survival rates that were comparable to other racial groups were the zero-HLA-mismatched Black recipients and those Black recipients over age 65. Long-term patient survival rates were the best for Asians and Hispanics (89% and 90% at 5 years, respectively). The 5-year patient survival rates were lower for Blacks and Whites (86% each). There was no difference in patient survival at one-year posttransplant (95-96% for each group). A higher proportion of White diabetic recipients received simultaneous SPK transplants (31%) than Black (10%), Hispanic (11%) or Asian (7%) diabetics. The reasons for this disparity are unclear. However, SPK transplants improved 5-year kidney graft survival for Whites (67% vs 55% in patients receiving kidneys alone), but were not associated with improved 5-year kidney survival among non-Whites. White donors accounted for the majority of all transplanted organs (79%). Matching donor and recipient race ("race matching") led to better long-term allograft survival for White recipients only. There was no donor-recipient "race matching" effect for minority groups.

Clin. Transpl 379-394 (1995)
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michael1
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 05:56 am
Setanta wrote:
God, what a sicko.

Your goofy image is from The Pagan Front,


Never heard of it, I'm quoting mainstream news & medical articles. I have 500 more if you want to waste more of my time.

This is a scientific study of genes. Unlike you, I find it a very non emotional BORING subject. Yes, even though my own family has some very severe genetic problems.
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kitchenpete
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 06:33 am
michael1 wrote:
Setanta wrote:
God, what a sicko.

Your goofy image is from The Pagan Front,


Never heard of it, I'm quoting mainstream news & medical articles. I have 500 more if you want to waste more of my time.

This is a scientific study of genes. Unlike you, I find it a very non emotional BORING subject. Yes, even though my own family has some very severe genetic problems.


With the attitudes you express, I shouldn't be surprised if those genetic problems stem from some gold old red-neck in-breeding!

You present facts (or links which you purport to represent the truth) to support your world view.

For example, evolutionists would not dispute that there are genetic similarities between people of the same geographic origin - that is one of the fundamentals of speciation (see Darwin, Dawkins, et al).
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 07:53 am
michael1 wrote:
Setanta wrote:
God, what a sicko.

Your goofy image is from The Pagan Front,


Never heard of it, I'm quoting mainstream news & medical articles. I have 500 more if you want to waste more of my time.

This is a scientific study of genes. Unlike you, I find it a very non emotional BORING subject. Yes, even though my own family has some very severe genetic problems.

I wonder how you found an image on the Pagan Front if you have never heard of it? You linked to it and now you seem to be denying you were ever there.

I think your denial in spite of the facts screams pretty loudly about the veracity of the rest of your argument.
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