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Top general calls homosexuality 'immoral'

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Wed 21 Mar, 2007 05:57 am
Could be an interesting basis for discussion on "morality" here..
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=93355&highlight=
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2007 02:11 pm
Beyond the pale: anti-gay, racist emails from Army recruiter
by: pam
Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 10:45:00 AM EDT

"GO BACK TO AFRICA AND DO YOUR GAY VOODOO LIMBO TANGO AND WANGO DANCE AND JUMP AROUND AND PRANCE AND RUN ALL OVER THE PLACE HALF NAKED THERE."
-- U.S. Army recruiter Sgt. Marcia Ramode, using her military email address to respond to Jersey City resident Corey Andrew, after Ramode learned Andrew was gay.
Is this the General Peter Pace policy at work?
Corey Andrew had his profile and resume posted at Careerbuilder.com, and it caught the eye of Army recruiter Marcia Ramode, who contacted him. He wasn't interested in a position in the military, particularly because of the ban on gays and lesbians in the military.

When Andrew informed Ramode that he is gay, and believed that the DADT policy was wrong, the two engaged in a three-day email exchange that included statements by Ramode, in her official capacity as a recruiter, that boggle the mind. (Jersey Journal):

After more prodding from Andrew on the Army's recruitment policy, the messages escalated into a bigoted tirade. For example, Ramode told Andrew that "being gay is disgusting and immoral."
...Steve Ralls, a director of communications for the Service Members Legal Defense Network, which helps victims of discrimination under the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy, says Ramode should be fired.

"The recruiter's remarks were outrageous and offensive in almost every way," Ralls said. "Anti-gay harassment throughout the military is well documented but this is particularly egregious because the recruiter's language is so homophobic and racist."

Andrew forwarded the emails to SLDN, and, well, it blows your mind to see the calibre of people now being allowed to recruit. This is completely unacceptable, and stains the reputation of those wearing the uniform. Can you believe this brazen filth was sent out under a military domain as official business communication --
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LockeD
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2007 08:34 pm
Immoral
Lets just call history immoral. Romans, greeks, and pretty much everyone else: Had some homosexuals among them. Just because it seems wrong to you doesn't make it wrong, just diffrent. Just because your co-worker fred has sex with his friend Joe doesn't mean they're going to invite you so get over it.

Truth be told, many of the greatest empires in world history, have had or supported homosexuality in thier millitary at least. Spartans, might be a bad example for some reasons, however they can not be ignored their poweress, along with the other I mentioned the "Romans".

Saying something is wrong because you don't like it, is immoral and childish.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2007 06:32 am
blueflame1 wrote:
Beyond the pale: anti-gay, racist emails from Army recruiter
by: pam
Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 10:45:00 AM EDT

"GO BACK TO AFRICA AND DO YOUR GAY VOODOO LIMBO TANGO AND WANGO DANCE AND JUMP AROUND AND PRANCE AND RUN ALL OVER THE PLACE HALF NAKED THERE."
-- U.S. Army recruiter Sgt. Marcia Ramode, using her military email address to respond to Jersey City resident Corey Andrew, after Ramode learned Andrew was gay.
Is this the General Peter Pace policy at work?
Corey Andrew had his profile and resume posted at Careerbuilder.com, and it caught the eye of Army recruiter Marcia Ramode, who contacted him. He wasn't interested in a position in the military, particularly because of the ban on gays and lesbians in the military.

When Andrew informed Ramode that he is gay, and believed that the DADT policy was wrong, the two engaged in a three-day email exchange that included statements by Ramode, in her official capacity as a recruiter, that boggle the mind. (Jersey Journal):

After more prodding from Andrew on the Army's recruitment policy, the messages escalated into a bigoted tirade. For example, Ramode told Andrew that "being gay is disgusting and immoral."
...Steve Ralls, a director of communications for the Service Members Legal Defense Network, which helps victims of discrimination under the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy, says Ramode should be fired.

"The recruiter's remarks were outrageous and offensive in almost every way," Ralls said. "Anti-gay harassment throughout the military is well documented but this is particularly egregious because the recruiter's language is so homophobic and racist."

Andrew forwarded the emails to SLDN, and, well, it blows your mind to see the calibre of people now being allowed to recruit. This is completely unacceptable, and stains the reputation of those wearing the uniform. Can you believe this brazen filth was sent out under a military domain as official business communication --
emails


I want to see what he was writing to her that made her say such things. I'm not going to buy the line that this guy did nothing to receive such responses. Besides her emails that were sent to this group what did his say. Seems like were only getting one side of the story on this one.

Being gay doesn't make you innocent are above instigation.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2007 07:03 am
Baldimo wrote:
I want to see what he was writing to her that made her say such things. I'm not going to buy the line that this guy did nothing to receive such responses. Besides her emails that were sent to this group what did his say. Seems like were only getting one side of the story on this one.

Being gay doesn't make you innocent are above instigation.

Seems to be sufficient for the Judge Advocate:
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Andrew, who is black, criticized Ramode's word choices and poor spelling. In response, the apparently enraged sergeant said in graphic language that Andrew should "GO BACK TO AFRICA AND DO YOUR GAY VOODOO LIMBO TANGO AND WANGO DANCE AND JUMP AROUND AND PRANCE AND RUN ALL OVER THE PLACE HALF NAKED THERE."

The U.S. Army Recruiting Command's Staff Judge Advocate has referred the email exchange to Ramode's commander for "review, investigation and appropriate action," Sgt. Douglas Smith, a public affairs officer based Fort Knox, Texas, said in a statement.


I suppose, more will issued after that investigation and appropriate action - if you want to know more before or not, Baldimo.
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