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Assuming that Jesus Christ really did what the bible says he did, do you think he still would have done it if he knew what would come of it?

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He would, is not a dream what drive us humans?

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I don't think he would. Same as I don't think Oppenheimer would do what he did if he'd known what was going to happen.

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I think he would have just stayed a carpenter. I know I would.

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He was a pragmatic optimist. A rare find these days.

His crucifiction was apparently foretold...

What irks me is the effigies showing him as a thin weakling.

He was a goddamned carpenter, back when electricity was the work of the devil.

He would have been built like a brick shithouse.

http://holylandnetwork.com/jesus/titian_2.htm

How else could he have stopped a stoning in an arab enclave? Huh?

With kind words? Or with a wrath to be feared?

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Oppenheimer

He did just unlashed science which we humans are not ready to use.

Jesus, Buddha etc they just put in front of us some rules.

Moral rules, we call it ethics and are not ready for it with our primitive instincts.

But let's work on it.

Our ?'soul', ?'mind' 'conscious' will be ready for it one day. I hope. Surprised

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Hmm... While the aftermath of the Buddha was pretty much what he aimed for, I am pretty sure that the aftermath of Jesus is the exact opposite of what he had in mind.

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While the aftermath of the Buddha was pretty much what he aimed for, I am pretty sure that the aftermath of Jesus is the exact opposite of what he had in mind.

They preached the same values. However their philosophy had a different impact. Blame human history and it's influence on us.

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Most of the depictions of Christ I have seen prove he had "abs of steel".

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I thought he did-does know all things past present and the future. Wasn't Jesus gods son ?... didn't god arrange for his son to get knocked off, then have him returned home to dad.. ( I assume in good condition ) thus making it possible for us to "sin" without having to pay any price for them?... my Christian relations and friends seem to think so, though I must admit they seem to fluctuate somewhat with the " paying for sins bit ".

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thus making it possible for us to "sin" without having to pay any price for them?

Everyone I talk to about the process of raising children, and I mean EVERYONE, agrees that if the child doesn't have to pay for any "sins" or mistakes it does it will grow up to be an immoral spoiled brat with no strength so tackle life. Yea.. god is good.

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Perhaps some reading of the Bible is in order here for the original poster. Jesus DID know exactly what was going to happen and He obviously chose to go through with it anyway, thank God.

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No. Jesus didn't know that a cult would arise calling themselves christians. And he didn't know that this cult would become the most powerful in the world for centuries, killing countless people becuase Jesus supposedly said it was right to do so. He didn't know that his words were going to be forced on people at the edge of a sword, and that those who questioned the dogmas would be burnt alive.
He didn't know that this would go on for two thousand years and is likely to go on a lot longer.

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Cyracuz wrote:

No. Jesus didn't know that a cult would arise calling themselves christians. And he didn't know that this cult would become the most powerful in the world for centuries, killing countless people becuase Jesus supposedly said it was right to do so. He didn't know that his words were going to be forced on people at the edge of a sword, and that those who questioned the dogmas would be burnt alive.
He didn't know that this would go on for two thousand years and is likely to go on a lot longer.

I hope he didn't know.....otherwise Jesus is just an asshole.

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Cyracuz wrote:

No. Jesus didn't know that a cult would arise calling themselves christians. And he didn't know that this cult would become the most powerful in the world for centuries, killing countless people becuase Jesus supposedly said it was right to do so. He didn't know that his words were going to be forced on people at the edge of a sword, and that those who questioned the dogmas would be burnt alive.
He didn't know that this would go on for two thousand years and is likely to go on a lot longer.

Would you mind giving scripture to back this up?

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I am all puzzled now. Would Jesus have believed that what he preached would disappear after him? Didn't he tell his disciples to spread his word? Didn't he expect his followers to expand in numbers?

Maybe he did not know that it would expand on such a large scale globally. Travelling was limited at that time, and America has not been "discovered" yet.

Certainly he did not expect people to spread his word with force. I wonder where people got the idea that that was the way to do it. Are there some ancient religions that were imposed by force also?

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Would you mind giving scripture to back this up?

If I had said that he did know I would understand the request for scripture. Where does Jesus say: "There will be a new religion in my name, and they will murder millions and collect great wealth"? Nowhere.

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But Jesus, being as omniscient as his Father, would have known about all the coming carnage.

Joe(merciful god)Nation

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Cyracuz wrote:

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Would you mind giving scripture to back this up?

If I had said that he did know I would understand the request for scripture. Where does Jesus say: "There will be a new religion in my name, and they will murder millions and collect great wealth"? Nowhere.

Nice try at the dodge Cyracuz. You made the statement he didn't know, so it is up to you to provide your evidence for this. I can provide plenty of scripture proving otherwise.

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But Jesus, being as omniscient as his Father, would have known about all the coming carnage.

Joe(merciful god)Nation

I gotta give you that one Joe. He knew of it. He also knew of those that don't partake in it too. Good to see you! It's been awhile!

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