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Gore Announces S.O.S.

 
 
kelticwizard
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 07:01 am
cjhsa wrote:
And that biodegradable cup comment - OMFGYKM!!! It's Antarctica you nimwits, not a spring walk in Savannah. Any damage to the ecosystem there will literally take thousands of years to recover - if ever. What retardation.


I see. So according to you, if you drop a biodegradable paper cup in Antartica, a thousand years later the cup will still be there?

Were you born this dense, or do you work to actively achieve it?
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 07:10 am
You know what? On second thought maybe you have a point. Maybe you need to go beyond biodegradable all the way to 100% percent collection of trash.

I would imagine that since the living areas will be controlled-I don't think anyone is just going to pitch a tent-and the concert areas will be controlled, I don't think 100% collection of trash will be that hard. Especially since the people will be drawn to emphasize attention to the environment in the first place.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 07:28 am
Antarctic web cam

http://www.antarcticanz.govt.nz/education/2568
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 07:58 am
A footprint in the ice will be there for milleniums to come.

The naeivity of the so called "environmentalists" is tiresome and predictable. Why do you think I've been here encouraging people to get outdoors and be a part of the cycle of life instead of just an observer?

It's sad that you may never understand.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 08:22 am
Gore is pitiful. He was born and bred to be president but will never be....so he created his own presidency...president of the environment.

Latching onto the environmental movement is the easiest path to celebrity this day and time.

Do as I say, not as I do, this would apply to 99.9% of the followers of this farcical display.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 08:55 am
http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/070226/garymccoy.jpg
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 11:48 am
cjhsa wrote:
A footprint in the ice will be there for milleniums to come.

It's sad that you may never understand.


I understand all right. I understand that you are full of baloney.

Every footprint in Antartica stays there a millenium? Then how come I saw pictures in a running magazine of people running a marathon in Antartica, and they were wearing shorts and were running on solid ground instead of ice? The temperatures were in the mid forties Fahrenheit.

It was part of a trip for runners who wanted to rightfully claim that they had run a marathon on all seven continents. Antartica was the final frontier. One fellow had run over 100 marathons, or claimed to. Don't ask me what his knees were made of, but that is another story.

The anti-environemtalists suddenly circle the wagons to protect the Antarctic from the Gore invasion. Oh, brother. Rolling Eyes
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 12:01 pm
And how do you equate conservation with anti-environmentalism?

It's a different approach. Mine involves time tested techniques instead of kneejerk reactions. That's all.

I look at myself as a part of nature. If a river threatens my home, for example, I will do my best to divert it. If wolves attack my livestock, I will shoot them. An enviro-whacko will try to fine me for doing so. Enviro-whackos suck.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 01:09 pm
You seem to miss the point. I hope your aim is better when you are hunting, or else nobody in the county standing outside at the moment would be safe.

Gore is not fining you anything. Gore is trying to use the persuasive power of music to publicize the need for environmental programs, to prevent pollution pouring into the air and effluents pouring into the water. This event is staged for that purpose. And while the concert itself may indeed involve the release of fossil fuels to get people there-Antarctica does not seem to be within walking distance of too many places-the resulting publicity and public support for environmental programs will hopefully more than compensate for the small amount fossil fuels burnt to transport the people and bands.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 01:14 pm
With any luck, they'll all get stuck there.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 02:03 pm
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill

(2/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) - Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's environmental hypocrisy.


Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.

"If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I wouldn't care," says the Center's 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson. "But he tells other people how to live and he's not following his own rules."

Scoffed a former Gore adviser in response: "I think what you're seeing here is the last gasp of the global warming skeptics. They've completely lost the debate on the issue so now they're just attacking their most effective opponent."

Kalee Kreider, a spokesperson for the Gores, did not dispute the Center's figures, taken as they were from public records. But she pointed out that both Al and Tipper Gore work out of their home and she argued that "the bottom line is that every family has a different carbon footprint. And what Vice President Gore has asked is for families to calculate that footprint and take steps to reduce and offset it."

A carbon footprint is a calculation of the CO2 fossil fuel emissions each person is responsible for, either directly because of his or her transportation and energy consumption or indirectly because of the manufacture and eventual breakdown of products he or she uses. (You can calculate your own carbon footprint on the website http://www.carbonfootprint.com/)

The vice president has done that, Kreider argues, and the family tries to offset that carbon footprint by purchasing their power through the local Green Power Switch program ?- electricity generated through renewable resources such as solar, wind, and methane gas, which create less waste and pollution. "In addition, they are in the midst of installing solar panels on their home, which will enable them to use less power," Kreider added. "They also use compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy efficiency measures and then they purchase offsets for their carbon emissions to bring their carbon footprint down to zero."

These efforts did little to impress Johnson. "I appreciate the solar panels," he said, "but he also has natural gas lanterns in his yard, a heated pool, and an electric gate. While I appreciate that he's switching out some light bulbs, he is not living the lifestyle that he advocates."

The Center claims that Nashville Electric Services records show the Gores in 2006 averaged a monthly electricity bill of $1,359 for using 18,414 kilowatt-hours, and $1,461 per month for using 16,200 kilowatt-hours in 2005. During that time, Nashville Gas Company billed the family an average of $536 a month for the main house and $544 for the pool house in 2006, and $640 for the main house and $525 for the pool house in 2005. That averages out to be $29,268 in gas and electric bills for the Gores in 2006, $31,512 in 2005.

The press release from Johnson's group, an obscure conservative think tank founded by Johnson in 2004 when he was 24, was given splashy attention on the highly-trafficked Drudge Report Monday evening, and former Gore aides saw it as part of a piece, along with an Fox News Channel investigation from earlier this month of Gore's use of private planes in 2000. Last year, a seemingly amateurish Youtube video mocking the "An Inconvenient Truth" turned out to have been produced by slick Republican public relations firm called DCI, which just happens to have oil giant Exxon as a client.

"Considering that he spends an overwhelming majority of his time advocating on behalf of and trying to affect change on this issue, it's not surprising that people who have a vested interest in protecting the status quo would go after him," said the former Gore aide.

Kreider says she's confident that the Gores' utility bills will decrease. "They bought an older home and they're in the process of upgrading the home," she said. "Unfortunately that means an increase in energy use in order to have an overall decrease in energy use down the road."

Gore is not the only environmentalist associated with "An Inconvenient Truth" who has come under fire for personal habits -- and not all the criticism has come from the Right.

Writing in The Atlantic Monthly in 2004, liberal writer Eric Alterman criticized producer Laurie David for her use of private Gulfstream jets. David, he wrote "reviles the owners of SUVs as terrorist enablers, yet gives herself a pass when it comes to chartering one of the most wasteful uses of fossil-based fuels imaginable." New Republic writer Gregg Easterbrook followed up, computing that "one cross-country flight in a Gulfstream is the same, in terms of Persian-Gulf dependence and greenhouse-gas emissions, as if she drove a Hummer for an entire year."

In an interview in 2006, David told ABC News that she was limiting her use of private planes and was flying commercial far more frequently.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 04:51 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
MM isn't the new Soldier of Fortune out or something you can read and appreciate?


I dont know,I have never read Soldier of Fortune.

Why is it you must revert to insults as soon as someone starts to disagree with you?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 05:02 pm
only with people who talk to me like I'm less of an American than they are hero.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 05:13 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
only with people who talk to me like I'm less of an American than they are hero.


Show me one time where I have EVER said that or inferred that?

I disagree with many of your positions,but I have NEVER said or inferred that you are "less of an American",and I defy you to show me one place where I have EVER said that.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 05:19 pm
That's what happens when you fail to make it in rock and roll and have to rely on DJing to support your family. You get bitter and paranoid.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 05:47 pm
McGentrix wrote:
That's what happens when you fail to make it in rock and roll and have to rely on DJing to support your family. You get bitter and paranoid.


I'm a dj because I enjoy it and I make plenty of money for it. I recommend it unless of course your knees are too weak to stand for long periods or say be unfit to serve in the military. :wink:
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 06:05 pm
<chirp>
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 28 Feb, 2007 05:19 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
<chirp>


Thats what I thought.
You can not show me anyplace where I ever "
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only with people who talk to me like I'm less of an American than they are hero
"

So your statement about me was wrong.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 28 Feb, 2007 06:54 pm
actually the chirp referred to McGentrix. Like all imaginary tough guys he really doesn't have much to say.

MM... I won't dig through a million posts but it is patently obivous to anyone other than your fellow die hard bush and war no matter what compadres that you consider yourself better and a truer American than the anti war anti bush crowd. It glows all around you like an light you could guide boats into the harbor with.

Deny it all you want. It doesn't change a damn thing.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 1 Mar, 2007 07:24 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
actually the chirp referred to McGentrix. Like all imaginary tough guys he really doesn't have much to say.


I am no tough guy, I was done with you for the time being and had nothing else to add.

Regardless of that though, I will agree that MM is a much better American than you are.
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