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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 08:18 am
@ossobuco,
Looking up recipes with worcestershire sauce, I see it's got anchovies in the sauce, so garlic would go with that.
One recipe for short ribs included a bit of horseradish..
a beef stew recipe included chili powder (we say chile in NM)
a chicken recipe included chopped celery and mushroom soup, so maybe celery and mushrooms?
Potato chip chicken (cripes!) adds paprika and there is celery seed in the topping

Me being by now a garlic and chile fiend, I find irish and english traditional food cries to be doctored.. but I was raised on blander food.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 08:23 am
I can't eat chili. And garlic doesn't seem right in this dish. Not sure why. Maybe it's supposed to be bland. Just not this bland. (The potatoes were good--and no lumps.)
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 09:46 am
@Roberta,
Maybe a bit of wine?

Here's Alton Brown's recipe:

Shepherd's Pie

Recipe courtesy Alton Brown, 2008

Prep Time:
45 min
Inactive Prep Time:
--
Cook Time:
45 min

Level:
Intermediate

Serves:
8 servings

Ingredients
For the potatoes:

* 1 1/2 pounds russet potatoes
* 1/4 cup half-and-half
* 2 ounces unsalted butter
* 3/4 teaspoon kosher salt
* 1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
* 1 egg yolk

For the meat filling:

* 2 tablespoons canola oil
* 1 cup chopped onion
* 2 carrots, peeled and diced small
* 2 cloves garlic, minced
* 1 1/2 pounds ground lamb
* 1 teaspoon kosher salt
* 1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
* 2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
* 2 teaspoons tomato paste
* 1 cup chicken broth
* 1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
* 2 teaspoons freshly chopped rosemary leaves
* 1 teaspoon freshly chopped thyme leaves
* 1/2 cup fresh or frozen corn kernels
* 1/2 cup fresh or frozen English peas

Directions

Peel the potatoes and cut into 1/2-inch dice. Place in a medium saucepan and cover with cold water. Set over high heat, cover and bring to a boil. Once boiling, uncover, decrease the heat to maintain a simmer and cook until tender and easily crushed with tongs, approximately 10 to 15 minutes. Place the half-and-half and butter into a microwave-safe container and heat in the microwave until warmed through, about 35 seconds. Drain the potatoes in a colander and then return to the saucepan. Mash the potatoes and then add the half and half, butter, salt and pepper and continue to mash until smooth. Stir in the yolk until well combined.

Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F.

While the potatoes are cooking, prepare the filling. Place the canola oil into a 12-inch saute pan and set over medium high heat. Once the oil shimmers, add the onion and carrots and saute just until they begin to take on color, approximately 3 to 4 minutes. Add the garlic and stir to combine. Add the lamb, salt and pepper and cook until browned and cooked through, approximately 3 minutes. Sprinkle the meat with the flour and toss to coat, continuing to cook for another minute. Add the tomato paste, chicken broth, Worcestershire, rosemary, thyme, and stir to combine. Bring to a boil, reduce the heat to low, cover and simmer slowly 10 to 12 minutes or until the sauce is thickened slightly.

Add the corn and peas to the lamb mixture and spread evenly into an 11 by 7-inch glass baking dish. Top with the mashed potatoes, starting around the edges to create a seal to prevent the mixture from bubbling up and smooth with a rubber spatula. Place on a parchment lined half sheet pan on the middle rack of the oven and bake for 25 minutes or just until the potatoes begin to brown. Remove to a cooling rack for at least 15 minutes before serving.
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 09:51 am
@Butrflynet,
http://www.cookingforengineers.com/recipe/127/Shepherds-Pie-Cottage-Pie
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mckenzie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 01:38 pm
@Roberta,
I made shepherd's pie, I guess technically cottage pie, just last week with some leftover roast beef and gravy. (Ground beef and a packaged gravy mix works, too.)

Sauté chopped onion, carrots and celery in butter until translucent, add salt, pepper, minced garlic, fresh or dried rosemary, thyme and Worcestershire, all to taste. Then I add the chopped roast beef and gravy/ground beef and packaged gravy, bring it to a boil and simmer until thickened.

Spread mixture in a baking dish, top with creamy mashed potatoes and bake.

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mckenzie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 01:43 pm
@Roberta,
If I make it with ground beef and use a packaged gravy, I like to use Knorr Roasted Garlic and Red Wine with Rosemary sauce, eliminating the rosemary from the other listed ingredients.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 05:44 pm
Thanks all for the suggestions. If I make it again, I'll add garlic and some herbs.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 09:03 pm
Note to Beth: I know you're into local wines. So I thought you might be interested to hear that I found a really nice and reasonably-priced white wine from Northern New York State. Are you into whites or just reds? And, do the Finger Lakes count as "local" to you? I guess so---they're closer to Toronto than most of Ontario is.

Anyway, the trade name is Salmon Run Chardonnay, Finger Lakes, 2007. The producer is Vinifera Wine Cellars Ltd., Hammondsport, NY.

Enjoy!
Tai Chi
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2010 08:41 am
Received some of this in the mail recently:

http://www.tidespoint.com/food/mtscio.gif

Roasting a chicken today and thinking about stuffing. What else can I do with savoury? I've never cooked with it before.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2010 09:56 am
@Tai Chi,
I used to put it in rolled (with cold butter in the mix) biscuits..
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2010 10:00 am
@Thomas,
I wonder if those wines would make it into Ontario. I generally prefer tart, peppery reds but I'm game to try something new (and well recommended). I'll see if it shows up in the LCBO here.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2010 12:35 pm
@Tai Chi,
http://www.foodsubs.com/HerbsEur.html

savory Notes: This herb has a strong, peppery flavor, and it's often used in Mediterranean countries to flavor beans, mushrooms, vegetables, and meats. There are two varieties: winter savory and the milder summer savory. Winter savory is best suited to slowly cooked dishes like stews. Substitutes: thyme (stronger flavor) OR thyme + dash of sage or mint

summer savory Notes: Summer savory is milder than winter savory. Substitutes: thyme (stronger flavor) OR thyme + dash of sage or mint

winter savory Notes: This perennial herb has a stronger flavor than its annual relative, summer savory. Substitutes: summer savory (milder) OR thyme (stronger flavor) OR thyme + dash of sage or mint
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Tai Chi
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2010 12:57 pm
Thanks osso and butrflynet. I've just put a roasting chicken in the oven with a bread and savoury stuffing (nothing else as I didn't want any competing flavours). Sounds like it will come in handy as we head into winter and I can use it in soups and stews.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 04:22 pm
I have a new question for the A2K cooks. Yesterday, on a drive through the countryside, I stopped by a farm selling produce at the street curb. Among the things I ended up buying is a big, maybe five-pound butternut squash. I bought it mostly because it looked so pretty. But with squash, as with humans, good looks only last so long. I'll have to make something edible from it eventually.

Now what?
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 04:48 pm
@Thomas,
Farmerman asked the same question and received quite a few recipes.
http://able2know.org/topic/162683-1

I love butternut squash with bacon and asiago cheese, we just had that a few
days ago.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 04:54 pm
@Thomas,
Edible art, eh?


If you enjoy gnocchi, they work with squash - here's a recipe:
http://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/butternut-squash-gnocchi-with-sage-butter
Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 04:59 pm
@ossobuco,
Mmmmmm.... Gnocci, and everything made from potatoes, are considered unkosher for us type-2 diabetics. (Potato starch enters the bloodstream very quickly, causing an unhealthy spike in our blood sugar levels.) But the recipe does look yummy, and I've been known to sin before. I may just try it and repent with two extra hours in the gym. Thanks!
Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 04:59 pm
@CalamityJane,
Ah. Thanks for that, too, CJ!
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 05:23 pm
@Thomas,
No potato in that one, but some durum semolina, which in my opinion is slower to be metabolized than regular old flour. Not that I can find a source for that belief. Perhaps some buckwheat could be substituted, again, less refined.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 05:47 pm
@Thomas,
(next time you see butternut squash - get a few small ones instead of one big one)

soup soup soup

ravioli filling!

crepe filling

my favourite dish at a local resto is a butternut/sage filled crepe with brown butter - soooooooooo good

 

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