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IT'S TIME FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE

 
 
Miller
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 12:27 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Sue her? If she can get me up again, I'll pay her~!


Or rent a PENIS PUMP... Laughing
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USAFHokie80
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 12:28 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Hokie: i said that merit can be manufactured.


How?


it's been answered. if you can't understand it the way it's been written, there is nothing i can say that would explain it to you. you're obviously just looking for a way to turn this around on me.
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 12:30 pm
USAFHokie80 wrote:
hamburger wrote:
there are now lawyers that specialize in "pharmacy malpractice " !

Quote:
Prescription Error

Prescription errors are tragic and entirely preventable mistakes that can cost lives. They may be caused by doctors or pharmacists, and it has been estimated that as many as 7,000 deaths occur annually in the United States from incorrect prescriptions.

Prescription errors may occur when the wrong drug is prescribed, the wrong drug is given, an incorrect dose is provided, or drug interactions are not taken into account. Pharmacists and other medical professionals have a responsibility to prevent malpractice and exercise extra care and caution when prescribing drugs and filling prescriptions. When these priorities are overlooked the health of the patient is put into question.

If you are a victim of a prescription error it is important that you understand your rights. You do not deserve to receive poor medical attention, and if you act quickly, you may be able to collect compensation for your pain and suffering. Let an understanding pharmacy malpractice lawyer help you get the justice you deserve. Contact a pharmacy malpractice lawyer today.


source :
PRESCRIPTION MISTAKES


pharmacists do not prescribe. and i've already mentioned filling the wrong prescription of filling the wrong dose. interactions are becoming much less common. my company actually provides a massive database and computer system that monitors possible interactions. if a doctor prescribes something that could be dangerous, the server throws a warning message and requires the doc submit an override reason which is recorded in case of any incident.


What's amazing is the number of times, the COMPUTER doesn't throw a WARNING and the PharmD has to use his/her training in medicinal chemistry, therapeutic medicine, and pharmacology
to safe guard the patient. Many medication errors derived from the MD are often ( but not always ) caught by the pharmacist.
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 12:33 pm
USAFHokie80 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Hokie wrote: "merit" can be manufactured in many of these cases. medicine is not an exact science. doctors often have different opinions on the same thing. one can manufacture the "merit" by finding a doctor that disagrees with the treating physician's choice.

How does one "manufacture" merit? Please be precise, because I'd like to learn about how different doctors can "manufacture" merit.[/color]


read the stuff right about what you wrote. it explains it pretty clearly. if you would like, i'm sure i can find a physician to explain the exact same thing to you.


So can I , in more ways than one.... Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 12:34 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Hokie wrote: "merit" can be manufactured in many of these cases. medicine is not an exact science. doctors often have different opinions on the same thing. one can manufacture the "merit" by finding a doctor that disagrees with the treating physician's choice.

How does one "manufacture" merit? Please be precise, because I'd like to learn about how different doctors can "manufacture" merit.[/color]


read the stuff right about what you wrote. it explains it pretty clearly. if you would like, i'm sure i can find a physician to explain the exact same thing to you.


You are not answering my question. How does a doctor "manufacture" merit of a diagnosis?


Good question, CI...
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 12:35 pm
USAFHokie80 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Hokie wrote: "merit" can be manufactured in many of these cases. medicine is not an exact science. doctors often have different opinions on the same thing. one can manufacture the "merit" by finding a doctor that disagrees with the treating physician's choice.

How does one "manufacture" merit? Please be precise, because I'd like to learn about how different doctors can "manufacture" merit.[/color]


read the stuff right about what you wrote. it explains it pretty clearly. if you would like, i'm sure i can find a physician to explain the exact same thing to you.


You are not answering my question. How does a doctor "manufacture" merit of a diagnosis?


yes, i did answer the question. i never said that a doctor manufactures merit. i said that merit can be manufactured. doctors do not always agree. they may interpret things differently. the difference of opinion is basis enough to bring a case to hearing.


Hearsay has little or no legal merit.
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 12:37 pm
USAFHokie80 wrote:
Miller wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
Miller wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
Miller wrote:
Quote:
they view doctors as some sort of infallible super-person that is not allowed to screw up.


That's how pharmacists are viewed today, by the general public in the USA, so why not the MDs?
That's also why registered pharmacists carry no less than $3 million in liability insurance.


i'd say there is a huge difference between a pharmacist and a physician. pharmacists do not diagnose, treat or prescribe. the do not operate or perform procedures. doctors have a lot more on their plate. i personally cannot even think of a scenario in which a pharmacist can be sued except if he filled the prescription with the wrong dose or wrong med altogether.


It appears that you're a new comer to the REAL WORLD!


why? do pharmacists perform procedures and diagnose illness in your world?


Yes


really? like what? what sort of a procedure does a pharmacist perform?


Why? Do you need a procedure performed ?
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 12:39 pm
USAFHokie80 wrote:
Miller wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
Miller wrote:
georgeob1 wrote:
Perhaps true as well. However, the life expectency of a healthy, non-disabled person born at the same time is a good deal less than 90 years.

These are calculations a lawyer, who is attempting to maximize the unjustifiable return to his plaintif client (and the share of them he will collect) might make. However they are laughably indefensible from a rational economic or demographic viewpoint. Sadly however, this kind of foolishness does indeed sometimes prevail among juries and even judges in our very litigious system.


No...these are calulations based on the reality of medical cost
of rearing a disabled baby to adulthood. Why deny it?


And where is the basis for this estimation?


In the REAL WORLD, this is called Medical Economics.


So then you don't have any studies or reports to support this?


Basis for conclusion?
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 12:41 pm
USAFHokie80 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Hokie: i said that merit can be manufactured.


How?


it's been answered. if you can't understand it the way it's been written, there is nothing i can say that would explain it to you. you're obviously just looking for a way to turn this around on me.


Weird conclusions...Too much sun and smog?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 12:43 pm
Hokie, I have many relatives who are practicing physicians, and they have never shared with me that "merit can be manufactured." Since you are the "expert" on health care, I'd like to share this very important information with my family members and some friends who are also physicians.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 12:45 pm
Also, this will be very valuable information for my brother who is a legislator in California. He's on the Health and Human Services Committee.
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 01:35 pm
I can't believe how high some of the salaries are out there in California. If it weren't for the heat, I'd consider moving there.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 01:51 pm
Miller, In the San Francisco Bay Area, our climate is moderate. It's never really that cold and we have about two weeks of "hot" weather - in the 90s.

I've lived in the bay area for most of my adult life, and love it here. All my siblings live in the valley where the temp can be over 100 for many weeks during the summer.

Depends on where you live; many coastal towns are very expensive now.
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USAFHokie80
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 07:15 pm
Miller wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Hokie wrote: "merit" can be manufactured in many of these cases. medicine is not an exact science. doctors often have different opinions on the same thing. one can manufacture the "merit" by finding a doctor that disagrees with the treating physician's choice.

How does one "manufacture" merit? Please be precise, because I'd like to learn about how different doctors can "manufacture" merit.[/color]


read the stuff right about what you wrote. it explains it pretty clearly. if you would like, i'm sure i can find a physician to explain the exact same thing to you.


You are not answering my question. How does a doctor "manufacture" merit of a diagnosis?


yes, i did answer the question. i never said that a doctor manufactures merit. i said that merit can be manufactured. doctors do not always agree. they may interpret things differently. the difference of opinion is basis enough to bring a case to hearing.


Hearsay has little or no legal merit.


That's true... except that it isn't hearsay. It is an expert testimony.
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USAFHokie80
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 07:15 pm
Miller wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
Miller wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
Miller wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
Miller wrote:
Quote:
they view doctors as some sort of infallible super-person that is not allowed to screw up.


That's how pharmacists are viewed today, by the general public in the USA, so why not the MDs?
That's also why registered pharmacists carry no less than $3 million in liability insurance.


i'd say there is a huge difference between a pharmacist and a physician. pharmacists do not diagnose, treat or prescribe. the do not operate or perform procedures. doctors have a lot more on their plate. i personally cannot even think of a scenario in which a pharmacist can be sued except if he filled the prescription with the wrong dose or wrong med altogether.


It appears that you're a new comer to the REAL WORLD!


why? do pharmacists perform procedures and diagnose illness in your world?


Yes


really? like what? what sort of a procedure does a pharmacist perform?


Why? Do you need a procedure performed ?


um... because you claim they can perform them.
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USAFHokie80
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 07:17 pm
Miller wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
Miller wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
Miller wrote:
georgeob1 wrote:
Perhaps true as well. However, the life expectency of a healthy, non-disabled person born at the same time is a good deal less than 90 years.

These are calculations a lawyer, who is attempting to maximize the unjustifiable return to his plaintif client (and the share of them he will collect) might make. However they are laughably indefensible from a rational economic or demographic viewpoint. Sadly however, this kind of foolishness does indeed sometimes prevail among juries and even judges in our very litigious system.


No...these are calulations based on the reality of medical cost
of rearing a disabled baby to adulthood. Why deny it?


And where is the basis for this estimation?


In the REAL WORLD, this is called Medical Economics.


So then you don't have any studies or reports to support this?


Basis for conclusion?


The fact that you don't post any sources for your claims.
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USAFHokie80
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 07:25 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Hokie, I have many relatives who are practicing physicians, and they have never shared with me that "merit can be manufactured." Since you are the "expert" on health care, I'd like to share this very important information with my family members and some friends who are also physicians.


Lol. you are either a complete idiot or just seriously intent on making me out to be a fool. the fact that they haven't told you something doesn't negate the truth of the would-be statement. legal "merit" (or reason to bring suit) can be "manufactured" by a plaintiff simply by seeking out a physician who disagrees with the treating physician's plan, and is willing to act as an expert medical witness. hope that clarifies things for you.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 07:55 pm
USAFHokie80 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Hokie, I have many relatives who are practicing physicians, and they have never shared with me that "merit can be manufactured." Since you are the "expert" on health care, I'd like to share this very important information with my family members and some friends who are also physicians.


Lol. you are either a complete idiot or just seriously intent on making me out to be a fool. the fact that they haven't told you something doesn't negate the truth of the would-be statement. legal "merit" (or reason to bring suit) can be "manufactured" by a plaintiff simply by seeking out a physician who disagrees with the treating physician's plan, and is willing to act as an expert medical witness. hope that clarifies things for you.


No, it doesn't. You're still ignoring my question. You claimed doctors can manufacture merit. Exactly how and when do they do this?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 07:57 pm
Please provide the specific circumstances and/or events in which doctors have done this?
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USAFHokie80
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2007 08:36 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Please provide the specific circumstances and/or events in which doctors have done this?


Seriously, give it up. Firstly, I never said "doctors can manufacture merit." I say that merit can be manufactured with no claim as to the person responsible. Second, I'm already told you just how it could be done. I'm done going through this with you. You have no interest in anything except baiting me into some sort of trap. You are a troll.
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