ebrown_p wrote:This is a bit scary. Some of the anti-immigrant voices are turning to violence, since the American people, through the Democratic process, aren't supporting them.
Hal Turner (a Conservative talk show host) wrote:
"ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO INTRODUCES, CO-SPONSORS OR VOTES IN FAVOR OF ANY SUCH AMNESTY WILL BE DECLARED A DOMESTIC ENEMY AND WILL BE CONSIDERED A LEGITIMATE TARGET FOR ASSASSINATION,
[snip...]
"Members of The United States House of Representatives or United States Senate who try to grant any form of Amnesty to millions of illegal aliens are hereby notified they may as well paint a bulls-eye target on themselves. Our Bullets don't care about their sovereign power," he wrote.
"This seems to be 'it' folks. I'm going to do what I have to do to protect my nation from its government. I know where all of my New Jersey Congressmen and Senators live. Do you know where yours live? If not, you better find out before January so you can scope out their neighborhoods and prepare yourselves," he said.
"Those of you who, for years, have said you're 'gonna do this' or 'gonna do that' when the time comes; are about to face ugly reality. In January, 'the time' will come. In January the entire world will find out if you're real or just a bigmouth coward," he said.
They aren't only willing to let people die in the desert. They are now talking about killing American elected officials.
Source: World Net Daily
They? Who is they? I see a him saying this but not a they.
Look as I said before, if they don't cross our border into the US then they lessen the chance of dieing in the desert. It isn't the fault of the US govt that they are crossing into the desert. That is a personal decision that was made by the border crosser. Your asking once again for the US govt to pick up the cost of someone elses bad choices. Since when was that a mandate of the US govt to pay for other people's poor choices?
Baldimo wrote:Since when was that a mandate of the US govt to pay for other people's poor choices?
Well, if this is a serious question, there's a lot online - starting with the Judeo-Christian heritage ....
Baldimo wrote:ebrown_p wrote:In my opinion, people dying in the desert is a very bad thing.
If they weren't trying to break into our country they wouldn't be dying in the desert in the first place. Encourging the breaking of the law should be a crime itself. If they don't want to die in the desert they shouldn't be in the desert.
Well, then, let's stop rescuing lost mountain climbers, stranded drivers, and drowning swimmers. And stop healing anyone injured committing a crime.
ebrown_p wrote:Sad thing is they probably did $40 million worth of work.
40 million worth of work for 20
billion $$? That's probably true, they stole the remainder.
Cycloptichorn wrote:LoneStarMadam wrote:Cycloptichorn wrote:au1929 wrote:ebrown_p wrote:Quote:
The way fight this would be to wherever possible stop the flow of funds by Mexican nationals to Mexico.
Right on Au! That's a great way to increase the pressure for people to cross the border illegally.
(Unfortunately the phrase "wherever possible" means "never").
Mexico may cease the aiding and abetting if they find their biggest cash cash crop cutoff. Remittances from the US
In essernce the US is being invaded with the approval of the Mexican government. That IMO is a pre emptive attack upon the US.
Biggest cash crop in Mexico is actually Marijuana.
Same for the Pacific NW, btw.
Cycloptichorn
TWENTY BILLION $$$ from Mexicans working in the US goes to mexico every year.
20 billion goes to Iraq every two months, and without any work in return being done here in the US where it can actually help people. Don't see you putting that in caps, tho.
Cycloptichorn
I don't know what $$ going to support our troops has to do with 20 billion that mexicans are sending back to mexico. Maybe you could explain?
Hey, DrewDad, it kind of pisses me off that mountain climbers go to places nobody in their right mind would go to and the have to get rescued. I'm not talking about the guys who have all the support stuff lined up, I'm talking about the guys who take stupid chances. Of course they have to be rescued, you can't just let them die. Same thing for the Mexicans who cross the border illegally. I don't think we should just let them die. I don't think even some of you hard-asses really think that. But they ought to be made to pay for it in some way.
DrewDad wrote:[Well, then, let's stop rescuing lost mountain climbers, stranded drivers, and drowning swimmers. And stop healing anyone injured committing a crime.
What about lost hunters?
Don't climbers pay a fee to climb? Don't drivers pay to use the roads? Aren't most drowning swimmers taxpayers? Also, I have no problem healing those injured while committing a crime, as long as they pay full price themselves.
DrewDad wrote:Baldimo wrote:ebrown_p wrote:In my opinion, people dying in the desert is a very bad thing.
If they weren't trying to break into our country they wouldn't be dying in the desert in the first place. Encourging the breaking of the law should be a crime itself. If they don't want to die in the desert they shouldn't be in the desert.
Well, then, let's stop rescuing lost mountain climbers, stranded drivers, and drowning swimmers. And stop healing anyone injured committing a crime.
Better yet, lets start charging them for the rescue operations. That would be my solution to that one. Plus the people who are having to be rescued from the mountains are US citizens. That in my opinion makes a difference. Those that are injured while commiting a crime should also be charged for the services.
Wait a minute, what does being a US citizen have to do with it? If somebody goes and puts himself in a dangerous situation, and then people have to go save his crazy ass, then he should pay for it. I don't care if its a Swiss guy in America or an American guy in Switzerland. Same thing, if you ask me.
Vinny Z wrote:Wait a minute, what does being a US citizen have to do with it? If somebody goes and puts himself in a dangerous situation, and then people have to go save his crazy ass, then he should pay for it. I don't care if its a Swiss guy in America or an American guy in Switzerland. Same thing, if you ask me.
The difference is that the Mexican or other national was committing a criminal act and knew full well the danger. Why should we lift a finger if they need to be bailed out.
Ok, I see what you mean. I was thinking about mountain climbers. I still don't thnk you just let people die just because they are Mexican.
Vinny Z wrote:Ok, I see what you mean. I was thinking about mountain climbers. I still don't thnk you just let people die just because they are Mexican.
ThE fact that they are Mexican has not a damn thing to do with it. The fact that they are illegally entering the US and know full well the dangers they may encounter is.
Vinny Z wrote:Ok, I see what you mean. I was thinking about mountain climbers. I still don't thnk you just let people die just because they are Mexican.
Did anyone here mention mexican? I know I didn't. I just said crossing the border. There are more then just mexicans who are crossing the border illegally.
And stop requiring emergency rooms to treat people who can't pay. Or at least require proof of citizenship, since US citizens are God's peepul.
DrewDad wrote:And stop requiring emergency rooms to treat people who can't pay. Or at least require proof of citizenship, since US citizens are God's peepul.
Rest assured that ERs are being closed because non citizens aren't paying.
Hey, Baldimo, no I didn't say you said mexican. Iwas talking to au1929. All I'm saying is if someone's dying in the desert from while doing something illegal it doesn't matter if they are American citizens or not. Let's say they were American citizens and the illegal thing they were doing was sneaking onto some restricted air base. I would not say it was Ok to save them but not OK to save the Mexicans at the border. Or Siamese or Hottentots or whoever the hell else.
