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bush Finally Does Something I Agree With

 
 
Diane
 
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Reply Thu 28 Dec, 2006 10:00 pm
Oh gag. Why bother?????
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Thu 28 Dec, 2006 10:07 pm
Diane wrote:
Oh gag. Why bother?????

Exactly
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 28 Dec, 2006 10:44 pm
Diane wrote:
Oh gag. Why bother?????


Gag?
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 28 Dec, 2006 10:46 pm
Diane wrote:
Oh gag. Why bother?????



Because it is normal reflex...
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 28 Dec, 2006 10:47 pm
That can be conquerd with practice...
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Eorl
 
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Reply Thu 28 Dec, 2006 10:53 pm
Clever new avatar Roxxxanne. Can't see your Adam's apple. Wink
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 03:11 am
Sturgis wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
20 t0 25k polar bears are in existance, doesn't sound to me like they need to be on the endangered list.
Millions of unborn babies have been killed & we should worry about bears?
Perhaps you would like to be placed on a small piece of floating ice knowing that you will soon perish.


Keep in mind that the survival of the bear means the survival of other creatures as well. Including you. Let me simplify this for you, LSM. If the polar bear becomes extinct, then the items which it has fed off of for years are given a different status in the ecosystem. A fish for example might begin to have a greater survival rate and increase in numbers. This seems all good and well until you stop and ask yourself what that fish eats. Let's say the fish eats only vegetation found within the ocean. Here we have a major dilemma. The ice has melted and the ocean's temperature and salinity have been altered. The plant life which had thrived before, no longer can. What little is left is devoured by the hungry fish. Soon the fish face starvation. The fish die and soon cover the ocean surface. Hungry birds feast on them unaware of the bacteria which has settled into the fish as they lay in the blistering sun (blistering due to mankinds (what an oxymoron that is...man-kind...HA!) wanton greed and waste and stupidity which have helped elevate the earth's temperature. Disease adores warmth. So, the birds eat the fish and Pfft! they too perish. The land vegetation which they once ate, thrives for a while but it begins to choke in its excessiveness. Perhaps the items the birds ate on the land now choke out the wheat crops which mankind had used and taken for granted. Perhaps all these changes create strains of disease which infest plant life across the planet. As plants die, animals die and guess what else happens LSM? Yup that's right. People die. Why? All because persons such as yourself saw no reason to preserve and protect a polar bear.

But don't despair, it is not too late. Step forward now and get involved in protecting the bears. Your future may well depend upon them.
All that's gonna happen. Shocked Holy crap! Laughing
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old europe
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 04:08 am
LoneStarMadam wrote:
Diane wrote:
Bush is brainlessly grasping. Gasping. Oh hell, acting as usual.

A little question for LSM: How many meth addicted, HIV positive babies and mentally ill, acting out older children have you adopted? Out of those billions, I'm sure your answer will be in the hundreds, at least.

So, how many of the mothers of those babies have you offered to help? Hundreds I'm sure.
You blame the babies for the weaknesses of the adults? That is pretty disgusting.


And this from someone who advocates killing 26 million Iraqis, because she is "not sure that all of them" want the survival of the US as a nation.....

Compassionate conservatism, anyone?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 07:47 am
folks I am no longer going to respond in any way to LSM. Please join me. Seriously.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 07:52 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
folks I am no longer going to respond in any way to LSM. Please join me. Seriously.


Are persons other than this character Seriously allowed to join you?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 07:56 am
Sturgis wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
folks I am no longer going to respond in any way to LSM. Please join me. Seriously.


Are persons other than this character Seriously allowed to join you?


all of you are invited Mr. Comedian.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 07:57 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Sturgis wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
20 t0 25k polar bears are in existance, doesn't sound to me like they need to be on the endangered list.
Millions of unborn babies have been killed & we should worry about bears?
Perhaps you would like to be placed on a small piece of floating ice knowing that you will soon perish.


Keep in mind that the survival of the bear means the survival of other creatures as well. Including you. Let me simplify this for you, LSM. If the polar bear becomes extinct, then the items which it has fed off of for years are given a different status in the ecosystem. A fish for example might begin to have a greater survival rate and increase in numbers. This seems all good and well until you stop and ask yourself what that fish eats. Let's say the fish eats only vegetation found within the ocean. Here we have a major dilemma. The ice has melted and the ocean's temperature and salinity have been altered. The plant life which had thrived before, no longer can. What little is left is devoured by the hungry fish. Soon the fish face starvation. The fish die and soon cover the ocean surface. Hungry birds feast on them unaware of the bacteria which has settled into the fish as they lay in the blistering sun (blistering due to mankinds (what an oxymoron that is...man-kind...HA!) wanton greed and waste and stupidity which have helped elevate the earth's temperature. Disease adores warmth. So, the birds eat the fish and Pfft! they too perish. The land vegetation which they once ate, thrives for a while but it begins to choke in its excessiveness. Perhaps the items the birds ate on the land now choke out the wheat crops which mankind had used and taken for granted. Perhaps all these changes create strains of disease which infest plant life across the planet. As plants die, animals die and guess what else happens LSM? Yup that's right. People die. Why? All because persons such as yourself saw no reason to preserve and protect a polar bear.

But don't despair, it is not too late. Step forward now and get involved in protecting the bears. Your future may well depend upon them.
All that's gonna happen. Shocked Holy crap! Laughing
I also have a rather horrific Earth reclaiming herself scenario...that however is for another time and place.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 07:59 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Sturgis wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
folks I am no longer going to respond in any way to LSM. Please join me. Seriously.


Are persons other than this character Seriously allowed to join you?


all of you are invited Mr. Comedian.
That's King Muttonhead to you BipB...and thanks for the invite.
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 08:02 am
Fear not all will be well after the second coming of Noah and his arc. :wink:
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 08:15 am
If we could just figure out a way to take two of everything EXCEPT MAN.... the next world might have a chance.
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old europe
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 08:20 am
Sturgis wrote:
King Muttonhead


Interesting.

Anyhow, good idea, BPB....
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 09:14 am
end of the West as we know it?

Anatol Lieven Published: December 28, 2006



WASHINGTON: Every political, social and economic system ever created has sooner or later encountered a challenge that its very nature has made it incapable of meeting. The Confucian ruling system of imperial China, which lasted for more than 2,000 years, has some claim still to be the most successful in history, but because it was founded on values of stability and continuity, rather than dynamism and inventiveness, it eventually proved unable to survive in the face of Western imperial capitalism.

For market economies, and the Western model of democracy with which they have been associated, the existential challenge for the foreseeable future will be global warming. Other threats like terrorism may well be damaging, but no other conceivable threat or combination of threats can possibly destroy our entire system. As the recent British official commission chaired by Sir Nicholas Stern correctly stated, climate change "is the greatest and widest-ranging market failure ever seen."

The question now facing us is whether global capitalism and Western democracy can follow the Stern report's recommendations, and make the limited economic adjustments necessary to keep global warming within bounds that will allow us to preserve our system in a recognizable form; or whether our system is so dependent on unlimited consumption that it is by its nature incapable of demanding even small sacrifices from its present elites and populations.

If the latter proves the case, and the world suffers radically destructive climate change, then we must recognize that everything that the West now stands for will be rejected by future generations. The entire democratic capitalist system will be seen to have failed utterly as a model for humanity and as a custodian of essential human interests.

Even the relatively conservative predictions offered by the Stern report, of a drop in annual global gross domestic product of up to 20 percent by the end of this century, imply a crisis on the scale of the Great Depression of the 1930s; and as we know, the effects of that depression were not restricted to economics. In much of Europe, as well as Latin America and Japan, democracies collapsed and were replaced by authoritarian regimes.


As the report makes clear, however, if we continue with "business as usual" when it comes to the emission of greenhouse gases, then we will not have to wait till the end of the century to see disastrous consequences. Long before then, a combination of floods, droughts and famine will have destroyed states in many poorer parts of the earth ?- as has already occurred in recent decades in Somalia.
If the conservative estimates of the Stern report are correct, then already by 2050 the effects of climate change may be such as to wreck the societies of Pakistan and Bangladesh; and if these states collapse, how can India and other countries possibly insulate themselves?

At that point, not only will today's obsessive concern with terrorism appear insignificant, but all the democratizing efforts of Western states, and of private individuals and bodies like George Soros and his Open Society Institute, will be rendered completely meaningless. So, of course, will every effort directed today toward the reduction of poverty and disease.

And this is only to examine the likely medium-term consequences of climate change. For the further future, the report predicts that if we continue with business as usual, then the rise in average global temperature could well top 5 degrees Celsius. To judge by what we know of the history of the world's climate, this would almost certainly lead to the melting of the polar ice caps, and a rise in sea levels of up to 25 meters.

As pointed out by Al Gore in "An Inconvenient Truth," this would mean the end of many of the world's greatest cities. The resulting human migration could be on such a scale as to bring modern civilization to an end.

If this comes to pass, what will our descendants make of a political and media culture that devotes little attention to this threat when compared with sports, consumer goods, leisure and a threat from terrorism that is puny by comparison? Will they remember us as great paragons of human progress and freedom? They are more likely to spit on our graves.

Underlying Western free-market democracy, and its American form in particular, is the belief that this system is of permanent value to mankind: a "New Order of the Ages," as the motto on the U.S. Great Seal has it. It is not supposed to serve only the short- term and selfish interests of existing Western populations. If our system is indeed no more than that, then it will pass from history even more utterly than Confucian China ?- and will deserve to do so.
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 09:16 am
Void duplicate post
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 09:32 am
I thought he might have died.

Sorry...that was mean, wasn't it?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 09:49 am
actually if my prayers re: bush could be answered I would ask God

A: to have bush live to be 200 years old.

B: to suddenly develop a conscience that would stick with him the whole 200 years.

C: be given the capacity to understand the implications and results of his political career.
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