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Jesus is God
To Soul_doctor73. So you deny the deity of Christ.

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the same God you say you are a child of, emphatically states 'there is no 'savior' besides Me (Isaiah 43:11)'

Jesus is God. Whether religion has understanding or not, does not matter to the true seeker. It does not effect the relationship God has with individuals. All that is needed is faith.

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Not to mention hope and charity.

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Constantine edited the heck out of the bible, left only what he wanted, then enforced and promoted that version, it's descendant is what we know today. It is argued that Magdalene (the closest to Jesus) was not allowed to publish her writings because she was female and the other disciples forbid her. The books were written many years apart, had been tampered with by a pharoh (I don't remember which one). The books have also gone through editing with each new revision.

One needs to understand that Christianity is a synthesis of the concepts of religions that came before it: it incorporates fables and issues from prior religions including but not limited to the cults of inanna, egyptian religion, judaism, zoroastrianism, and a -lot- from the pegans (it's the only way they would convert). There are also parallels between bible stories and antique literature. Some of the names of the people in the stories have literally been adapted in that they sound like the names of characters from which they originated.

Throughout time, people have interpreted the bible differently. During the northern renaissance, there were all kinds of religous writings in addition to the bible people followed as the word of g-d, but those got cut out over time.
The bible, like most religous texts, gets interpreted however the person/culture who wields it feels like, this is one of the reasons for it's mass adaptablitiy and popularity

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Re: Jesus is God

Ruach wrote:

To Soul_doctor73. So you deny the deity of Christ.

You wrote:

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the same God you say you are a child of, emphatically states 'there is no 'savior' besides Me (Isaiah 43:11)'

Jesus is God. Whether religion has understanding or not, does not matter to the true seeker. It does not effect the relationship God has with individuals. All that is needed is faith.

hope, charity, morality, and faith are human conditions that do not require religion to be facilitated. Religion provides an avenue for these beliefs and actions.

"Whether religion has understanding or not, does not matter to the true seeker. It does not effect the relationship God has with individuals."

Individuals can sense in no way a relationship with g-d. So, no, nothing could effect that relationship, no matter what, because it is intangible. As long as it remains intangible, nothing can have an effect on it. Shouldn't understanding be a factor in what someone bases their life upon?

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Sounds like a maliagar clone.

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Maligar is a person on this forum. Who is his clone, and why?

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I stopped reading after the first couple of sentences. You have too many words trying to prove something I have already learned is not true. What you write is not true.

Jesus IS God.

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soul_doctor73, What if you are right. And everything Christians believe is not true. What have I lost. I tried to add to society and be productive and good.

If you are wrong.....................

What have you lost? Idea

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I believe yer shouting into the wind . . . it seems that "Soul Doctor" had to leave to make a house call, an' ain't been back since. You'll have that when the fanatics register only for the purpose of dropping off their rant.

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What rant, I hardly noticed Laughing

Who's maliagar?

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Ruach wrote:

I stopped reading after the first couple of sentences. You have too many words trying to prove something I have already learned is not true. What you write is not true.

Jesus IS God.

With that kind of attitude, you sound like a cult member. How do you know somthing isn't true, until you read/learn about it? The bible is full of meaninless words, and I read it. You won't even read three paragraphs? I don't know about your soul, but I'm worried about your mind.

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Re: Jesus is God

Ruach wrote:

To Soul_doctor73. So you deny the deity of Christ.

You wrote:

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the same God you say you are a child of, emphatically states 'there is no 'savior' besides Me (Isaiah 43:11)'

Jesus is God. Whether religion has understanding or not, does not matter to the true seeker. It does not effect the relationship God has with individuals. All that is needed is faith.

No, I deny the Roman assertion that the Israelite Messiah was Jesus. Religion is useless, actually, it is lethal. Just ask all the people dying in religious wars. All for the god they believe in, and know nothing about.

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Ruach wrote:

soul_doctor73, What if you are right. And everything Christians believe is not true. What have I lost. I tried to add to society and be productive and good.

If you are wrong.....................

What have you lost?

Do you know what 'righteousness' means?
Does it mean 'believe in Jesus'?
No. If you acted the way I do, you wouldn't be worried about my being wrong.

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I'd be worried about you with a chainsaw, though.

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I'm more dangerous than the chainsaw. Just be worried about me.

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Nah, can't be bothered, but "I'm more dangerous than the chainsaw. Just be worried about me" would make a great rap lyric.

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Re: Jesus is God

Ruach wrote:

Jesus is God. Whether religion has understanding or not, does not matter to the true seeker. It does not effect the relationship God has with individuals. All that is needed is faith.

You assert that Jesus is God, yet do nothing to demonstrate that it is true. That's the problem with Christians, way too many claims, not enough support.

Faith is a sham, perpetrated on the weak-minded.

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Ruach wrote:

soul_doctor73, What if you are right. And everything Christians believe is not true. What have I lost. I tried to add to society and be productive and good.

If you are wrong.....................

What have you lost?

hmm. What could possibly be your only life, lived under false pretenses. Ignoring the capabilities of your mind and the possibilities of exploring your environment. Being led by those who are themselves misled, making more childern that are misled, living their lives in fear of not getting into the happy field of food (heaven). That is not living life to it's fullest extent. That is not educational, scientific, stretching your personal limits as a human. To do somthing beause you are afraid not to (in this case punishment from a demon) is superstitious. To live your precious entire life through superstition is a loss.

Your icon, Rauch, why did you choose it? This image of a big breasted blonde steryotipical booze barbie-girl wearing brand name tommie hilfiger shirt? The feminist inside me cringes.

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Ruach wrote:

soul_doctor73, What if you are right. And everything Christians believe is not true. What have I lost. I tried to add to society and be productive and good.

If you are wrong.....................

What have you lost?

hmm. What could possibly be your only life, lived under false pretenses. Ignoring the capabilities of your mind and the possibilities of exploring your environment. Being led by those who are themselves misled, making more childern that are misled, living their lives in fear of not getting into the happy field of food (heaven). That is not living life to it's fullest extent. That is not educational, scientific, stretching your personal limits as a human. To do somthing beause you are afraid not to (in this case punishment from a demon) is superstitious. To live your precious entire life through superstition is a loss.

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