Monte Cargo, since they were Democratically elected Hamas has worked towards finding a 2 state solution. The article I posted about the press conference that was squashed by Shin Bet clearly shows Israel working towards destroying resolution. From that day to the present Israel has run amok in Gaza and Lebanon. Prior to their election Hamas had held a unilateral cease fire for 16 months. They have offered an extended cease fire while peace negotions take place. It's those kinds of overtures Israel's more rabid leadership fears the most. I notice your list ends in Aug, 2004. History records Hamas 16 month cease fire and all the offers they've made since election. The truth is that since their election Israel, America and the EU have panicked and cut off very much needed funds that pay salaries and provide social services. It is an effective divide and conquer tactic that is working and turning desperate Palestinian factions against one another. Once again the West has shown they support Democracy only when the elected government suits them. "Hamas Offers To Restore 16-Month Cease-Fire With Israel"
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) -- The Hamas-led Palestinian government offered Thursday to restore a cease-fire with Israel, nearly a week after calling off the truce to protest a deadly explosion on a Gaza beach.
Israel responded favorably, signaling that both sides are prepared to step back from fighting that threatened to escalate into a broader conflict.
A Hamas official said the group was in touch with other Gaza militants to try to halt daily rocket barrages against Israel, which set off punishing Israeli air and artillery retaliation.
The truce, declared in February 2005, greatly reduced Palestinian-Israeli violence that claimed more than 3,000 lives in the four years before.
But Hamas called it off after a June 9 explosion on a Gaza beach that killed eight Palestinian civilians. Israel was shelling Gaza around that time, but insisted it was not responsible for the explosion.
http://wcbs880.com/pages/46855.php?contentType=4&contentId=158316
Bernie, thanks for trying to get the thread back to its subject, the ISG.
Blueflame, it would be better if you didn't let your hatred for Israel cause you to steer so many unrelated threads into a discussion of the Israel-Pal conflict. BTW, you might be interested in Dershowitz's review of Carter's new book, which is in the thread covering the book.
Yes, thank you, Blatham and Advocate.
The Democrats are in a tough position. They really can't cut funds to a point of endangering the troops, but that doesn't mean we have to continue to fund the building of four humongous bases, which it was mentioned somewhere a while back would be turned over to Iraq after we leave.
Surely there is a way to fund that would distinguish between where the money would go in this situation.
Yes, a time distance between Bush making a statement of his "way forward" and the ISG report seems to be part of the strategy. However, I don't think the American people are going to buy into whatever path Bush presents. I REALLY don't think they'll be thrilled with sending in more troops. That doesn't mean they'll do anything to stop it. Just that they won't agree with the move.
squinny
Yes, by polling we know the majority would be against that.
As you likely know, Powell came out yesterday as being against a surge in troops, "What would be their mission?" being the rhetorical question he posed.
Butrflynet, Bush claims he read the ISG Report, but said after reading it, "we're going to win in Iraq." That means he's going to ignore the report.
Achieving Victory in Iraq
Above article and report offers an interesting counter-approach to that offered by the ISG.
Quote: Our aim is not stability, sustainability or short-lived success. Our aim is victory. The situation in Iraq is largely representative of the greater conflict we face in the war on terror, or more aptly in our war against the jihadiyun - those who advocate a particular perversion of the Islamic faith focused on the sovereignty of God's laws and on the forcible implementation of them. We have both the capabilities and the understanding necessary to succeed in Iraq so long as we have the will to do so and to accept the significant costs in lives and resources. A failure to acknowledge the extent and severity of the current state of Iraq and its relationship with the larger war will ensure our failure and greatly increase the costs of achieving victory in the global effort to eradicate the jihadiyun and his ideology - al-jihadiya. Additionally we must recognize that certain aspects of the Iraqi situation are not indicative of the greater war effort and are not strategic imperatives to be resolved by the United States. Those tasks must fall to the Iraqi government and people.
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Among the recommendations we make, the most significant is that we gain an appropriate national focus on the issue of Iraq and its proper context within the War on Terror. The viewpoint of many Americans that Iraq is not a component of the greater war has lead them to accept half-measures and reactionary after-thoughts in place of full engagement and decisive strategic action against our enemies and the enemies of a free and stable Iraq. The cost of such has been high and its impact on the war, while not fully recognizable as of yet, is likely to be both the lengthening of the war in Iraq and of the war in general. The time has long passed for Americans to recognize what our enemies have known for three years - Iraq is a central battlefield in the greater war. Our past failings of either political or public will have emboldened our enemies - the decision to achieve victory in Iraq is the most effective means we have to signal that we have learned from our past, just our as enemies have.
These two snips must have come directly from Tony Snow's desk. They are rehash of the White House, -I hesitate to use the word policy because Bush has never really had one-, mindset. The paragraphs bemoan the fact that Americans don't see the war in Iraq as central to the war on terror, that's probably because it isn't and never was. Now this report urges that
Quote:"we gain an appropriate national focus on the issue of Iraq and its proper context within the War on Terror. "
meaning see if we can get them to believe us instead of their lying eyes.
Is there any chance that there is anyone left on the White House staff who had a grasp on reality?
Joe(wars on terror aren't fought with armies)Nation
Maybe this explains it all.
January 12, 2007 at 04:22:13
The Neuropsychology of George W. Bush
by Abbas Sadeghian
"Why don't they have Bibles? Can we get them Bibles? Would they like Bibles?"
The most reported inquiry by George Bush about the fate of the US Air crew of the American surveillance plane downed over China.
Newsweek, April 23, 2001, Atlantic edition
When I read of the above quote in the papers during the Chinese stand off, I was happy to find the missing link in understanding George Bush.
The incident occurred five months before 911. An American spy plane collided with a Chinese fighter plane, forcing the American plane to land on an island off of China. The crew had infuriated the Chinese by remaining locked in the plane until they had destroyed sensitive material and equipment. When they emerged, they were taken prisoner and were held for 22 days while America negotiated for their release.
As State Department officials worked on the situation, President Bush made the above comment, which was considered the most reported statement of the event.
Considering the fact that the situation was quite tense and there were so many possibilities of an escalating crisis. Hearing that the president is worried about them having access to the Bible and exercise equipment was simply astonishing.
However, this event was a quite useful in learning about Bush and his psychological make up. President Bush had already admitted to having had severe alcohol problem during his younger years and that he stopped drinking when he was confronted by his wife and mother. The Chinese incident showed me that like many other recovering alcoholics Bush is using physical exercise and hyper religiosity to keep himself sober.
Why Exercise?
Research on prolonged exposure to drugs and alcohol indicates that the brain of an alcoholic is often permanently harmed by the chemicals and loses its ability to maintain necessary levels of endorphins. Endorphins are the famous natural opiates that the body produces to deal with physical and emotional pain. Not having enough natural opiates makes the person vulnerable to physical and emotional pain, which can potentially push the person towards a relapse. Recovering alcoholics have a lot of difficulty in dealing with physical and emotional pain unless they find a way to produce endorphins in a natural manner. Psychologists routinely encourage patients to turn to vigorous exercise.
President Bush is perhaps the fittest president in history; however, he is not a "Health Nut." He is just obsessed with exercise. If he was seriously devoted to his health he would not have abused alcohol, or indulge in activities like overexposing himself to the sun and eating what is reported to be his favorite snack, pretzels (at least, that's what he choked on while watching television).
Why the Bible:
A recovering alcoholic has to deal with the cognitive aspects of alcoholism as well. The cravings for alcohol are quite strong and potentially overpowering. Some successful recovering alcoholics deal with the cravings by replacing their obsession of drinking with hyper religiosity.
Both supporters and detractors agree that the President is a religious man, unwavering in his beliefs. He refers to his work as a 'crusade.' He abhors the idea of abortion, homosexuality and, of course, gay marriage. He openly admits that he makes his decisions based on biblical teachings.
Learning disability:
There have been many reports that the president suffers from Dyslexia (severe difficulty with reading and writing). Most people suffering from Dyslexia eventually learn how to read and write, however in some cases, reading remains a chore and they get little pleasure from it. President Bush seems to belong to this group. He does not like to read books or newspapers and relies heavily on others to do it for him. For example, Bush said he believed that the CIA memo that warned of an imminent Al-Qaeda attack on 9/11 was 'read to him.'
The president has very poor penmanship. His handwriting is not bad like a doctor; rather, it is primitive hand writing like that of a child. A thank you card he sent to Dick Clark had only one sentence ... but it took both sides of a 4x6 card to write it. Bush has been questioned on this issue numerous times, and he continues on denying it. However, his response to one of these questions is most revealing:
"The woman who knew that I had dyslexia - I never interviewed her." - Orange, Calif., Sept. 15, 2000
President Bush's language deficit does not seem to be limited to Dyslexia. He often mixes two words to come up with a meaningless term, such as "misunderestimate." Entire books have been written about his malaprops (the misuse of words). He also has problems with verbal memory and syntax. The latest one of these errors was:
"We got an issue in America. Too many good docs are gettin' out of business. Too many O-B-G-Y-N's aren't able to practice their...their love with women all across this country." - Poplar Bluff, Missouri, Sep 7, 2004
George W. Bush has never been a good student and, in fact, he takes pride in being a self-described 'C' student. When he took his pilots' exam to enter the National Guard, he scored at the 25th percentile. That is the lowest passing grade for a pilot.
Prior to taking office, the President did not show any desire to know about other countries. He had never traveled abroad. After taking office, the White House press corps complained that, unlike other Presidents, this one traveled into a country on government business and straight back out with no time to explore or learn about the country. When he traveled to Africa, he did three countries a day. He has never had a thirst for knowledge, once referring to Bob Woodward as a "fancy-pants intellectual."
A person's vocabulary and syntax have a high correlation with his general IQ. The problem of poor vocabulary is quite evident in Bush's communications. He demonstrates this difficulty vividly when explaining his point on important matters. In the absence of the right word, he often uses strong facial expressions to make his point. Considering Bush's poor vocabulary and syntax, one can postulate that his general IQ is probably at the lower end of the average range.
Throughout his life, President Bush has learned different methods to compensate for his language deficits and average IQ. He accomplishes this task by becoming charming and personable.
Other indicators of shortcomings evident throughout Bush's life.
(1) Poor reading skills and lack of desire for general knowledge has made him almost intellectually illiterate. He required heavy tutoring in history, geography and international affairs before his run for office. Condoleezza Rice and Dick Cheney worked with him for a year to prepare him for the job. And since then these deficiencies have caused him to become dependent on his advisers for decision making. In the relationship between Vice President Cheney and President Bush, the more mature Cheney has become the dominant figure. Consequently, he has difficulty making decisions without Chaney (remember the seven minutes in the classroom while America was under attack?)
(2) A Bush characteristic that he is proud of and his supporters refer to as his advantage is his "resolve and stubbornness." While in psychology terms we refer to this phenomenon as "concrete thinking", which is common among people with alcohol history, making them inflexible, harsh and difficult.
(3) He has a strong sense of divine mission, he believes that he is doing Gods work and refers to his actions as a crusade. He has been told by many of his advisers not to use such statements and he has made public announcements that he will not call himself a crusader anymore but it looks like he just can not help it.
