Keith Ellison: Newly Elected Congressman

LoneStarMadam wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:

You also left out the militia movement and KKK related groups which are currently recruiting and gaining membership.

I left out the black panthers & radical femenists, radical environmentalists & a several other radical groups too.
<shrugs>

The KKK is a radical Christian group, as are most of the militia groups including the groups that inspired Tim McVeigh to become a terrorist.

You are saying that Muslim leaders are responsible for speaking out against radical Muslim groups.

Why aren't you willing to say that Christian leaders should speak out against radical Christian groups?

LSM, every thread ever started about what Muslims do devolves into a Christian bashing thread in an effort to prove "they do it to." It is feckless to try to discuss what Muslims do or do not do unless you are willing to read the posts by the Christian basher's that believe you are missing out on how bad Christians are despite the fact that is not what is being discussed.

Water is wet, the sky is blue, Christians are evil. Just the facts of life on the A2K political forum.

LSM, every thread ever started about what Muslims do devolves into a Christian bashing thread in an effort to prove "they do it to." It is feckless to try to discuss what Muslims do or do not do unless you are willing to read the posts by the Christian basher's that believe you are missing out on how bad Christians are despite the fact that is not what is being discussed.

Water is wet, the sky is blue, Christians are evil. Just the facts of life on the A2K political forum.

McG always claims that he is a Buddhist--then he plays the white knight for beleaguered christian flannel-mouths. Either way you look at it, it seems that he's lying in one way or another.

Setanta wrote:

McG always claims that he is a Buddhist--then he plays the white knight for beleaguered christian flannel-mouths. Either way you look at it, it seems that he's lying in one way or another.

McG always claims that he is a Buddhist--then he plays the white knight for beleaguered christian flannel-mouths. Either way you look at it, it seems that he's lying in one way or another.

Should one wish to avoid having one's beliefs ridiculed, one would do well to avoid presenting, arguing, and defending those beliefs in ridiculous manner.

timberlandko wrote:

Should one wish to avoid having one's beliefs ridiculed, one would do well to avoid presenting, arguing, and defending those beliefs in ridiculous manner.

That is true, however, if you're speaking to me, please point to a rediculous manner in which I defended or argued my belief..

LoneStarMadam wrote:

Actually they do, but i will take the "Thou shalt not murder"
Murder is a legal term, different than kill. We have a right to protect ourselves, if that means killing another human in order to do that, so be it. Murder is wanton killing, no excuse.

None of those passages represent the teachings of Jesus.

FreeDuck wrote:

LoneStarMadam wrote:

Actually they do, but i will take the "Thou shalt not murder"
Murder is a legal term, different than kill. We have a right to protect ourselves, if that means killing another human in order to do that, so be it. Murder is wanton killing, no excuse.

None of those passages represent the teachings of Jesus.

and it seems to be a fairly recent development that the commandement became "thou shall not murder", rather than "thou shall not kill".

and here's something else that i've wondered about. how does "praying to jesus" work when the first few commandments read;

Exodus 20:

2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;


i know that christian doctorine explains it, but that is the writings of man.

and if the ten commandments are the true words of god, and he says essentially, "don't go around praying to anybody but me.."

well, doesn't that kinda leave christians playing on the wrong team ?

just wonderin' 'bout that...

FreeDuck wrote:

LoneStarMadam wrote:

Actually they do, but i will take the "Thou shalt not murder"
Murder is a legal term, different than kill. We have a right to protect ourselves, if that means killing another human in order to do that, so be it. Murder is wanton killing, no excuse.

None of those passages represent the teachings of Jesus.

and it seems to be a fairly recent development that the commandement became "thou shall not murder", rather than "thou shall not kill".

and here's something else that i've wondered about. how does "praying to jesus" work when the first few commandments read;

Exodus 20:

2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;


i know that christian doctorine explains it, but that is the writings of man.

and if the ten commandments are the true words of god, and he says essentially, "don't go around praying to anybody but me.."

well, doesn't that kinda leave christians playing on the wrong team ?

just wonderin' 'bout that...