Remind Me Again... We're Staying In Iraq Why?

We're staying in Iraq so that the deaths of the troops that have gone before will have meaning.

We are staying in Iraq because to remove Saddam without fully establishing a stable replacement governing body would be tantamount to inciting a religious civil war that could envelope the entire Middle East.

I forget who first issued that warning.


Joe(Oh, I remember. It was George's dad.)Nation

surely you aren't suggesting Joe that what we have done is merely tantamount to starting a religious civil war.....

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surely you aren't suggesting Joe that what we have done is merely tantamount to starting a religious civil war.....

Bear, we have spotted this gigantic hornet's nest up in the eave of the Middle East Barn. We have devised a plan to remove it. We have climbed a twelve foot stepladder holding a large plastic bag and a putty knife. We have gotten the putty knife up under the eave and, while holding the open bag under the buzzing hornet's nest, we have managed to get the nest to drop into the bag.

We are now holding the bag. We are holding the bag with both hands.

It is clear: we cannot let go of one hand to climb down, we cannot put the hornet's nest back up, meanwhile inside the bag the hornets are becoming more and more agitated.

And it is getting dark.

We are out of ideas.
We are out of plans.

Joe(Mission Accomplished)Nation

Joe Nation wrote:

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surely you aren't suggesting Joe that what we have done is merely tantamount to starting a religious civil war.....

Bear, we have spotted this gigantic hornet's nest up in the eave of the Middle East Barn. We have devised a plan to remove it. We have climbed a twelve foot stepladder holding a large plastic bag and a putty knife. We have gotten the putty knife up under the eave and, while holding the open bag under the buzzing hornet's nest, we have managed to get the nest to drop into the bag.

We are now holding the bag. We are holding the bag with both hands.

It is clear: we cannot let go of one hand to climb down, we cannot put the hornet's nest back up, meanwhile inside the bag the hornets are becoming more and more agitated.

And it is getting dark.

We are out of ideas.
We are out of plans.

Joe(Mission Accomplished)Nation

...and we are absolutely certain that no US or western city will ever be obliterated by a WMD from Iraq. Now tell me that we were absolutely certain of this before the invasion.

we are absolutely certain that no US or western city will ever be obliterated by a WMD from Iraq.

Brandon9000 wrote:

we are absolutely certain that no US or western city will ever be obliterated by a WMD from Iraq.

This statement, Brandon, is clearly a lie. Why do you lie to us?

I am absoulutely certain that I may or may not wake up tomorrow.

Brandon9000 wrote:

Joe Nation wrote:

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surely you aren't suggesting Joe that what we have done is merely tantamount to starting a religious civil war.....

Bear, we have spotted this gigantic hornet's nest up in the eave of the Middle East Barn. We have devised a plan to remove it. We have climbed a twelve foot stepladder holding a large plastic bag and a putty knife. We have gotten the putty knife up under the eave and, while holding the open bag under the buzzing hornet's nest, we have managed to get the nest to drop into the bag.

We are now holding the bag. We are holding the bag with both hands.

It is clear: we cannot let go of one hand to climb down, we cannot put the hornet's nest back up, meanwhile inside the bag the hornets are becoming more and more agitated.

And it is getting dark.

We are out of ideas.
We are out of plans.

Joe(Mission Accomplished)Nation

...and we are absolutely certain that no US or western city will ever be obliterated by a WMD from Iraq. Now tell me that we were absolutely certain of this before the invasion.

and how are we absolutely certain of that? bullshit.

Brandon9000 wrote:

we are absolutely certain that no US or western city will ever be obliterated by a WMD from Iraq.

This statement, Brandon, is clearly a lie. Why do you lie to us?

I can't think of a single thing that I am absolutely certain of, I don't think that you can make the case that you are absolutely certain of anything either, but let's not quibble .

If you and the Bush Administration had been paying attention to reality, and not some fig newtons of the WMD imagination, you would have been much more concerned with countries and individuals who actually HAD some WMDs and real connections with radical Islamic forces. It is far more likely now that A.Q. Khan of Pakistan has delivered the means to kill millions into the hands of those who would kill millions. None of them are in Iraq, none of them are in Afghanistan and, except for the equipment bound for Libya, none of them have ever been found or brought to justice, including Dr. Khan himself.

So I am happy you think you are absolutely certain about the safety of American cities protected now from the WMDs of Iraq, but you do realize that that makes you absolutely certain about something that was never an absolute certainty itself.

Joe(A trick of the mind.)Nation

old europe wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

we are absolutely certain that no US or western city will ever be obliterated by a WMD from Iraq.

This statement, Brandon, is clearly a lie. Why do you lie to us?

A moment ago, upon seeng BPB's objection, I admitted that the post was in error and re-stated it correctly. By what means do you conclude that every person who is incorrect is lying? That is, in and of itself, a characteristic of liars.