Nick wrote: The horrors of Nixon administration have been greatly eclipsed by the GW Bush administration. Nixon was impeached for bugging a single office. Bush and his band of murdering thieves have taken it upon themselves to bug the entire country! All our civil rights have been flushed down the toilet. Freedom of the Press no longer exists. The reporters who broke the Watergate scandal never had to reveal their sources and were never imprisoned for NOT revealing them. Now every reporter goes to jail for doing the same thing. Hundreds of thousands are dead in Iraq. Bodies were piled up by Katrina. Tis a sad day for America.
I agree with Nick. This administration has destroyed our freedoms of the press, and their illegal wiretaps is contrary to our Constitution and Bill of Rights. The dastardly congress and supreme court are also to blame for not using their Balance of Power to control Bush. They broke our democracy.
Re: OmSigDAVID
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I suspect that it is REALLY that u don 't like getting caught
with your own hypocritical inconsistency showing,
and that u know that its easier to sling mud
than to fess up to the truth, BBB, because u LOVE the offender.
ROOSEVELT is the REAL flamer;
( ask your Japanese friends ! ),
but u r not man enuf to ADMIT it.
David
That was stupid and unnecessary.
georgeob, To compare Japan to the USA during WWII is not even a comparison. The US is supposed to be a "democracy" with the protections founded in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Japan has never had such a "constitution before or during WWII.
cicerone imposter wrote:georgeob, To compare Japan to the USA during WWII is not even a comparison. The US is supposed to be a "democracy" with the protections founded in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Japan has never had such a "constitution before or during WWII.
The dispute was over political morality. Non-democratic governments either have or lack it as well. The Japanese are human beings just as are Americans.
The Soviet Union claimed it was a democracy and indeed had all the democratic forms and elections as well. I believe it would score rather low on the political morality scale. Similarly Singapore has all the forms of democracy, but, in fact is ruled by a single party and the political legacy of a single (and singular) ruler. It would score rather well on the scale of political morality. In short, democracy or not, the problem and the standards for political morality are the same.
BBB, That's a heart-rendering story about your friend. Although, belated, I want to thank you for being one of the caucasians that helped the Japanese in time of need.
I have met many people because of my travels, and one, a retred professor from Cal Poly, told me what his parents did for a Japanese family. They took over the farm during the war years until the family returned. There are many similar stories of this kind that I only learned about later in life - only about a decade ago. My wife's family moved to Colorado from California before the order to report to be transported to camp. A family in northern Colorado took in my wife's family for the duration, and they returned to California after the war. They moved to Colorado, because their then governor Carr, welcomed the Japanese to come. Unfortunately, he served only one term. About 25-years ago, the Japanese community built a memorial to him in Denver.
Thank you for sharing your story. T.
Re: Memories of a best friend: Japanese internment
georgeob1 wrote:OmSigDAVID wrote:
Upon the basis of your experiences
and observations, if it had been up to u,
do u believe that Roosevelt shud have been
impeached and removed from office, BBB ?
David
I have no particular knowledge or opinion about DAVID's postings here - one way or the other.. Nor do I have any reason to join in the silly castigations above. However the question he posed, in response to the article BBB posted and her other political commentary, appears to me to be a good one.
It was President Roosevelt who initiated our preparations for war against Japan in the early 1930s;
it was he who imposed the embargo
on vital exports to Japan;
and
it was he who authorized the internment
of the Japanese Americans on the West Coast.
Was all of this a moral outrage, and a violation of the basic tenants of the Constitution?
Should he have been impeached?
In 1940, Roosevelt ran as a supporter
of pacifism and isolationism.
Both of my parents repeatedly voted for Roosevelt.
I have never supported him.
He wanted to get into the war against the nazis
( which made good sense ), but he was NOT man enuf
to admit his earlier hypocrisy, so he set up the Fleet,
at Pearl Harbor, thereby enabling him to tell Congress
that a state of war existed between America and the Empire of Japan.
Roosevelt sacrificed the lives of our soldiers n sailors,
on the alter of his P. R. image; ( is THAT despicable ? )
Roosevelt asked the Office of Naval Intelligence
what the effect wud be of an embargo of oil against Japan,
or of an embargo of Japanese silk ( Japan being the greatest
producer of silk, and America being its greatest consumer ).
ONI told him that war wud result; within a few days,
Roosevelt imposed oil and silk embargoes against Japan,
as a back door into the war in Europe,
against which he had campaigned in 1940.
David
georgeob wrote: The dispute was over political morality. Non-democratic governments either have or lack it as well. The Japanese are human beings just as are Americans.
george, Morality and government is an oxymoron. We're not talking about other governments. This is about American citizens and the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Is that so difficult to understand?
Hey there Sig! A couple of years ago I wrote an article for a magazine about a man I knew who had been delivering humanitarian medical supplies to Iraq pre 9/11. After 9/11 the government shut down his operation and I was very critical of the Bush administration. "Homeland Insecurity" actually came out and interviewed me and asked to see the contents of my computer. I refused. I did give them some CD's with various files on them that were encypted. When one of the guys called me and asked me what the password was I said, "Oh, it's f-u-c-k-u". Of course, that wasn't correct but I pleaded ignorance. Since then I have had my cell phone password reset twice and had my Gmail shut down twice! Eventually I got my Gmail back but I had to change cell phone carriers. And I'm not even a Muslim!
David, could you post in a bigger font. Nice nail color though.
Re: OmSigDAVID
OmSigDAVID wrote:[
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Really ?
What was " stupid " about it ?
What was " unnecessary " about it ?
David
"Stupid" -- because there was no justification for your intemperate personal attack on BBB, who merely has a different opinion on the matter. Also stupid because it detracted from the merits of the point you made and merely excited hostility. Very little educational or entertainment value in that.
"Unnecessary" -- because there was no provokation on BBB's part. Your reaction was out of any reasonable proportion to what preceeded it, and not at all in keeping with the context of the general discussion.
Roxxxanne also noted the font sixe you use. Most people react to that as to shouting in a small room. Is that whay you are trying to achieve?
