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george bush: hero for fundamentalists and fascists

 
 
PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 07:55 am
What does Clinton have to do with Bush being an idiot?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 07:55 am
bushisgod, If I may, I'd like to call your attention toThe Debate Guidelines and to The Terms of Service
Not just The Libruls find your current tack inappropriate. Effort on your part to comply with our own Community Standards will be appreciated, and will facilitate your continued ability to participate on these boards.
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bushisgod
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:01 am
pdidde, i was refering to you

timber: how am i offending you?
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:02 am
What do I have to do with Bush being an idiot?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:02 am
Ideologies that encompass the entire spectrum of political thought are represented and RESPECTED here on A2K. Ad hominem attacks will not be tolerated. Turn down the heat please, or we will be obliged to lock this thread.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:03 am
So far you haven't offended me, but "Trolling for Flames" can be a dangerous passtime. Personal invective and ad hominem attacks are uncool here. Go ahead and play, just play nice.
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bushisgod
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:15 am
understood, will do.....and pdiddie, how about you just forget it b/c i don't think you're gonna get it
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:22 am
sweetcomplication wrote:
Hey, can you see where even your chosen screen name is inappropriate/sacrilegious, some might say...?

Can you also see where your post reminds me of McCarthy's witchhunt?

Also, no name-calling, i.e. referring to someone else as a "traitor" is just a step outside of A2K guidelines, okay?



Is calling someone a Nazi ok within the guidlines? Shocked

PDiddie wrote:
(Do you have any brown shirts in your closet?)
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:34 am
Name-calling personal attacks are uncool, McG ... but maybe Pdiddie just wanted to know if the respondant to whom he was addressing that querry worked for United Parcel Service Twisted Evil
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:44 am
as much as i hate to break up this love fest;
WASHINGTON, July 7
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The White House acknowledged for the first time today that President Bush (news - web sites) was relying on incomplete and perhaps inaccurate information from American intelligence agencies when he declared, in his State of the Union speech, that Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) had tried to purchase uranium from Africa.
The White House statement appeared to undercut one of the key pieces of evidence that President Bush and his aides had cited to back their claims made prior to launching an attack against Iraq (news - web sites) in March that Mr. Hussein was "reconstituting" his nuclear weapons program. Those claims added urgency to the White House case that military action to depose Mr. Hussein needed to be taken quickly, and could not await further inspections of the country or additional resolutions at the United Nations (news - web sites).
The acknowledgment came after a day of questions and sometimes contradictory answers from White House officials about an article published on the Op-Ed page of The New York Times on Sunday by Joseph C. Wilson 4th, a former ambassador who was sent to Niger, in West Africa, last year to investigate reports of the attempted purchase. He reported back that the intelligence was likely fraudulent, a warning that White House officials say never reached them.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nyt/20030708/ts_nyt/bushclaimoniraqhadflawedoriginwhitehousesays
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:45 am
dys- I saw that. Stay tuned..................
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au1929
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:49 am
dyslexia
The caption on that article should have been
The dope got duped
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:52 am
"Oh no, not uranium...all we said was 'Saddam is interested in uranus, Mr. Bush'....our humble apologies for the miscommunication."
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:53 am
UPS Man? Laughing Laughing Laughing

You made my day -- now I can go to work with a big smile on my face!
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:54 am
This is the best the Administration can come up with, after weeks of kicking it around in conference, to refuse admitting that they lied about it from the very beginning.

"Uhhhhh, we were....ah....misled ourselves...no, that's not it; it was, errr, incomplete data; YES, that's the ticket!..."

If anyone chooses to believe anything else this gang of thugs says about WMD, they're as stupid as Bush.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:55 am
interesting to note that NO ONE seems to know how that statement got into Bush's speech.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 08:58 am
Not finding the alledge WMD is not what is going expose the "god's"
(sic -- little "g" -- one of the minor gods for sure) feet of clay. The looming double dip recession would hobble him. His "fixes" are equivalent to getting a TV set to work by banging on its side. Works temporarilly but one needs a real technician to analyze and correct the problem -- we do not currently have any. The Peter Principal works best in politics.
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 09:05 am
Quote:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/6079309.htm

White House knew of dubious report, CIA official insists

AGENCY DEBUNKED URANIUM-DEAL CLAIM CITING IRAQ, NIGER

By Jonathan S. Landay
Knight Ridder

WASHINGTON - Making his case for war with Iraq, President Bush in his State of the Union address this year accused Saddam Hussein of trying to buy uranium from Africa -- even though the CIA had warned White House and other officials that the story did not check out, a senior CIA official said.

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the intelligence agency informed the White House on March 9, 2002 -- 10 months before Bush's nationally televised speech -- that an agency source who had traveled to Niger could not confirm European intelligence reports that Iraq was attempting to buy uranium from the West African country.

Despite the CIA's misgivings, Bush said in his State of the Union address: ``The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium in Africa.''
Three senior administration officials said Vice President Dick Cheney and some officials on the National Security Council staff and at the Pentagon ignored the CIA's reservations and argued that the president and others should include the allegation in their case against Saddam.
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 09:07 am
Then we have this little tidbit:

Quote:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4025.htm

. Riddle As U.S. Spy Chief Quits

July 6, 2003
**Gordon Thomas: Exclusive**

Sunday Express [UK] AMERICA'S top spy catcher, Paul Redmond, has suddenly resigned in the middle of his secret investigation into how Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden allegedly obtained US computer software, the SUNDAY EXPRESS claimed this weekend.

The software is said to enable the two most wanted men in the world to avoid capture because it can pinpoint every move in the global manhunt.

Redmond's departure last week was accepted "without discussion" by President Bush, the man who had brought the spy catcher out of retirement to conduct the investigation.

Hours after Redmond had cleared his desk, Bush ordered a GBP 25million bounty on Saddam's head. He wants Saddam "dead or alive" and the same goes for bin Laden. Already Bush has agreed to either man forgoing a trial and being shot after interrogation. The official reason given for Redmond's abrupt departure was "health reasons." But stunned colleagues in the Homeland Security department in Washington, where Redmond had his office, insist the former Associate Director of the CIA was in perfect health. His departure has led to intense speculation that he may have begun to uncover embarrassing details of how the software came into the hands of Saddam and bin Laden.

Documents obtained by the respected International Currency Review, a London-based newsletter for the financial community, allege that the software was provided for Saddam on the authority of President Bush's father when he was in the White House - a time when relations between Iraq and Washington were close during Baghdad's war with Iran. The Review's publisher, Christopher Story, a former financial adviser to Lady Thatcher, said: "The documents are extremely sensitive and raise some very serious questions."

He confirmed that they had originally been in the possession of Barzan alTakriti, Saddam's half-brother, when he was managing Saddam's estimated GBP 40billion fortune.

A Paris intelligence source said the documents were copied by operatives of DGSE, the French intelligence service, earlier this year when al-Takriti made a visit to several banks in Geneva.
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bushisgod
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2003 09:15 am
just because they have not found wmd, does not mean anything. they found the detinators for wmd, they found the plants and the specialists in constructing wmd, they found everything, just not all put together. it is foolish to say that iraq never had any wmd, the iraqi government hates americans with all their heart, if they have a heart at all. just b/c blair got it wrong, don't blame bush for it....in his state of the union address he says, "the british government has learned that suddam husseinrecently sought significant quantities of uranium from africa." you can't say "stupid bush" when it wasn't he who created the information, he just stated what he believed to be a reliable source.
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