There's no discussing religion and politics...

I feel the same way, Craven, but there's a siren song constantly luring me back - - -

Jeez, it makes me sad to lose a thinker like Craven.

I never have understood the disgust and revulsion Craven and so many others feel because of the passion involved in political and religious discussions.

In my personal life I've been every bit as big-mouthed and out-front as I am here in the forums -- but at the end of discussion, friendship can prevail.

I certainly don't feel any lingering animosity toward the people with whom I've had even the most passionate of disagreements.

Some of the least civil people on Abuzz and A2K -- are the people who harp on civility most.

Just understand that some mudslinging and name-calling is going to result from discussions in politics and religion -- and let that be a given.

If you feel more comfortable discussing software, Craven, great. But I think you like politics and religion much more -- and I think what you are doing is a cop out.

Stick around. We need somebody to steady us once in a while.

Yup, I simply love politics. It's just not worth the downside right now.

Which came first, religion, politics or money? Or did they all come around at the same time? Hmm, all evil in my mind, but money is the only true neccesity. Best to keep religion and politics as hobbies, not passions. Less messy. I know people who are actually in politics, and no matter how fierce their debates may get sometimes, it's generally a beer or five at the end of the day, and a "good argument" sort of thing. Anyone who takes politics so seriously that it breaks up a friendship is headed for Hitlerland, if you ask me. I used to be a Young Liberal, and went to a convention in Niagara Falls...my dabbling in "real" politics. I vaguely remember the Prime Minister's speech, but the bathtub full of beer and the late night naked pool parties were what really grabbed me....if a political or religious discussion gets too hot-headed for me, I bow out, and pop in again when it calms down. Such is human nature. It also sounds like politics may have been a wimmin here, but who knows?

Just to clarify potlitics never broke up a freindship with me, it was certain behaviours that politics elecited that did.

A fine but, to me, important, distinction.

Well put then, Craven, fine distinctions are important. So what brings out worse behaviour, politics or sporting events? Or are they both kind of the same?

All right, men, I take offense at your allusion to women since you seem to consider political/religious discussions too "hot to handle". How would you like it if we ascribe such things to you men?

BTW, anyone care for an apple :wink: ?

Snake alert! Snake alert!

Okay, so now it's religion, politics and the sexes that are off limits! :razz:

Sexes? I thought this was a yes/no issue... didn't realize there was a plural...

Sigh.

I am sorry you are feeling like this Craven - I hate it when you do this.

Politics ain't worth the reading when there isn't some bastid like you stirring up both sides.

I often wonder what political discussion IS about though.

Is it a bit like some ritualized knightly joust, done for the joy of exercising the skills and the excitement of combat? Thing is, nobody much ever admits to being unhorsed...and it does have the joust's potential for people to really get hurt, though, it seems.

Waaaaaaaaaaaah!


I shall ignore, in a dignified manner, the evil wimmin comment.....

Deb,

It's inevitable. I really shouldn't post at all and just focus on the work. Cutting down on politics means I'll have more time to work on the site.

Tis a good thing.

Might seem that way to you! Doesn't to me! Or lots of others.....most of the time...(lol)

(I depend on the siren call of your passions to lure you back.......)

Like the hamster!

well, see, now I've gotten my feelings hurt by the bunny implying I am undignified when I replied to the evil wimmin crap; she wrote, in part:



please, bunny, don't slam me

don't worry, sweet. it's an ongoing joke between young craven and certain of the female posters.

sweetcomplication (that sounds like fore shadowing ) - one mustn't take the bunny to heart, just ignore her - so now we are ignoring:

religion, politics, the sexes and the bunny

SC and the bunny should feel okay knowing that there ain't no such thing as a 'wimmin', except maybe in Norse mythology, and Craven would not be so sloppy as to ignore a fine distinction in that area.

but evil wimmin are wicked