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SCoates
 
Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 10:57 am
I tried to find where this had already been addressed, but it proved unsearchable.

Why is is correct to say "This is he," when answering the phone.

If I'm at a party and someone says, "Who's Chris?" should I point and say "That's he." It seems to be the same construction.

Thanks
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 11:10 am
Hey, SCoates. Good to see you back again.

Well, once again we are in the grammar mode, I guess.

In this case, "is" is called a linking verb, i.e. it connects the pronoun after it with the subject of the sentence. They are one and the same. I, frankly, think that usage is a little stilted, but it really is the purist form of grammar. Best thing to do, buddy, is to point at someone and say, " That is Chris." That way, you can avoid searching around for the proper pronoun. Razz Actually, I'm pro choice.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 11:13 am
I always think that if the introductory statement could be foolwed by another clause, then its correct.

Like

"this is my wife, this is she who must be obeyed"
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 11:20 am
farmerman, bet you don't know where that expression came from. Razz

Hey, SCoates. Remember, those pronouns are indefinite. That means we are not certain to what or whom they refer.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 11:29 am
Farmerman, semicolon after wife.

Letty, Rumple of the Bailey
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 11:32 am
Hey, Scoates! Stop by when you've got more time.
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 11:34 am
Not originally, Rog. J.Ryder Haggard's book "She".
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 11:36 am
oh pshaw!
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 11:42 am
Razz That should be P shaw. Just kidding, of course. Haggard also wrote "King Solomon's Mine.".
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 11:51 am
Oops, made a mistake:

http://www.tvheaven.ca/she_cover.jpg

That should be H. Rider.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 01:06 pm
Just got back from a meeting and I saw that Letty's character had been named. It was adapted from a real world indivisdual
Balobedu Rain, Queen Masalanabo Modjadji-Haggard was fascinated by this story torn from the history of Africa
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 01:11 pm
That's right, farmer. The character of "She" could even have been cleopatra.

Sorry, SCoates. Did not mean to derail your thread, buddy.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 02:04 pm
SHE, according to Haggard himself was a historical series of figures, so powerful of the Balobedu, that she was only adressed through a viseer, and, like a queen ant was keot from all contact with other humans.

Shaka Zulu was known to request her blessings.SHE, in history
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 02:08 pm
Re: This is he...
SCoates wrote:
I tried to find where this had already been addressed, but it proved unsearchable.

Why is is correct to say "This is he," when answering the phone.

If I'm at a party and someone says, "Who's Chris?" should I point and say "That's he." It seems to be the same construction.

Thanks


It's not correct, SCoates. It's merely one form that is available to English speakers. The prescription that describes this errant 'rule', where some folks confused Latin structure with English structure.

The GCEL states; "Confusing informality with ungrammaticality again, a strong prescriptive tradition says that only [he] is grammatical. ... The mistake here, of course, is to assume that what holds for Latin grammar has to hold for English, ..."
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 02:31 pm
Right, JTT. I think perhaps SCoates gets the picture. <smile>

farmer, that was the most fascinating read. I know so little about African ancient history. Thanks, buddy.

Well, we can justify this discussion by observing that she is a pronoun of the feminine type. Razz
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SCoates
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 02:31 pm
Letty wrote:
Actually, I'm pro choice.


I always found that description to ignore the argument. (Talking about abortion) It seems the real question is when the child/embryo receives the right to live. If everyone could agree on that (before or after birth) then there would be no real need to address a woman's freedom of choice.
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 02:35 pm
SCoates. I was just making a PUN on the proNoun, see?
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SCoates
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 02:54 pm
Letty wrote:
SCoates. I was just making a PUN on the proNoun, see?


I don't see anything funny about killing babies.
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 03:04 pm
Let me try and explain again, SCoates. That had NOTHING to do with "killing babies." The essence of my pun was basically that one should be able to choose which pronoun to use in formal or informal English.

Sometime, you need to read the book "A Case of Need", by Michael Crichton who wrote it under the nom de plume, Jeffrey Hudson.
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SCoates
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 03:42 pm
Letty wrote:
The essence of my pun was basically that one should be able to choose which pronoun to use in formal or informal English.


I recognize a metaphor when i see one.

Anyway... just trying to cause trouble, like usual.
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