Re: Questions Republicans just can't answer
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Time for round two: What is the plan for winning in Iraq? That's pretty straightforward, I think. If you wish to go into detail, that would be nice too.
Cycloptichorn
First of all, you imply by your question that we are not winning at all. I think we have and we are to an extent, so I think your question is poorly phrased.
Secondly, it is crucial that those that voted for Bush's authority to go to war own up to their own decision. That would help our efforts to win. We must win the battle of public opinion in the press. The war is being fought on many fronts, and public opinion is one important one. Responsibility and perserverance are of utmost importance, and it starts with us here in America, not only with the politicians but with us, the people, and then we would have a better chance of total success in Iraq. I think we have had some success, but the success is being spun as no news while continued terrorist actions make the news.
Thirdly, we may need to take some fairly drastic and new actions in Iraq, in terms of clearing neighborhoods, bringing factions together and giving them clear choices to clean themselves up. Any and all tactical and political options may need to be put on the table. Beyond that, I am not a military expert, and I believe we should simply employ our best military and political minds concerning modern warfare and the problem in Iraq. To succeed, we must believe we are capable of it, and that includes our politicians.
We've not totally won any war since WWII, at least to the point of one side winning and the other side totally surrendering, so it seems that this problem is not unique to Iraq, and therefore we need to incorporate this fact into how we judge our degree of success. So perhaps I am suggesting that we are already possibly more successful than we are giving ourselves credit for. Cyclops, you suggested in the first question that the risk of death from terrorism is perhaps an acceptable risk, while at the same time you apparently believe the losses we suffer in Iraq are not acceptable in the course of making changes in the political landscape of terrorist infested Iraq. So I am suggesting you may need to re-evaluate your thinking on this. Instead of taking a defeatist attitude, which will only bring further defeat, I think a change in attutude is in order.
P.S. You said my question was comparing apples and oranges, but this reveals the obvious fact that your question was also comparing apples and oranges. You say "dead is dead," which is true, but I contend that "leaks are leaks," but how people die and how things leak have different impacts on the rest of the population and on the rest of the house, whichever case applies.