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Questions Republicans just can't answer

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 07:50 pm
Sure, I do.

About changing questions: I don't mind changing things like 'a' and 'the' but don't rewrite every question and don't substitute other questions in, please. You may feel perfectly free to decline to answer any questions you wish if you feel the way it is worded is unfair.

Cycloptichorn
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 07:38 am
Basicly, good questions.

To date neither party has any answers to these questions.

No one is debating the issues on either side, yet they do a fine job of blaming each other.

Since you are a partisen democrat, please tell me how the democratic party platform answers your questions.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 08:06 am
Re: Questions Republicans just can't answer
Cycloptichorn wrote:

How does Gay Marriage harm anyone?

Subquestions:

Under our system of laws, why should Gay Americans be barred from enjoying the same rights as straight Americans?

How, specifically, is anyone else's marriage harmed by allowing Gays to marry each other?

What historical evidence can you show that people have been affected by Gay Marriage in a negative fashion?

What studies show that children are harmed by Gay Marriage?

Why is selective biblical evidence presented to provide a religious rationale for being against Gay marriage?

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I'm not holding my breath.

Cycloptichorn
Um, could you do me a favor Cyclo and address these same questions towards New York State Junior Senator Hillary Clinton? She recently (as in the last few weeks) has indicated that she supports the idea of civil unions for gays but is against marriage for them. She then, in order to cover her political bases, stated that if the New York State Assembly votes for gay marriage and Governor Pataki signs it into legislation she will support it. Since Hillary is in a job at the national level, it really doesn't make a difference whether or not she supports the the New York State legislation. Well, in a manner of speaking it does...she wants to secure those pro-gay marriage votes for her future political ambitions. And look how clever she has been...she is still against gay marriage (her own words) so she can appeal to the conservative voters while garnering support from the liberals who will scream as loud as they can that she supports New York State gay marriage (even if she votes against it in the U.S. Senate). How does this truly differ from George Bush who has also agreed to the idea of civil unions but is against gay marriage? Oh that's right! You have lopsided views which force you to despise all Republicans and their ideas. Similar to good old Herman Denny in Denial Farrell (NY State Democratic leader) who stops short of supporting Alan Hevesi but says he will vote for the entire Democratic ticket.

and hey over there...I see Tom Duane, gay man and New York State Senator, who supports Hillary even though she is looking to water down any rights he might ever have. Duane tells the inteviewer that progress is being made with Hillary as far as getting her to embrace gay marriage...the same could be said of George Bush and others...myself included, a gay man who doesn't even now fully understand gay marriage. Don't place this one entirely on the doorstep of the Republicans, Cyclo; seeing as how, the Democrats aren't doing any better on it.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 08:07 am
au1929 wrote:
The republicans on A2k are doing what Bush did on 9/11. Running for cover.


Much easier to attack a Democrat who isn't even running for soemthing he didn't even say.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 08:13 am
Take another listen Roxxxanne.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 08:33 am
I'm not sure why the insistence on framing any of these questions around democrats. They haven't held the White House in over 6 years.
The questions are relevent to the current administration and should only be posed to a dem if they are in power....not as hypothetical jibes intended to deflect the responsibilities of the current administration to undertake some of the pressing issues of the day.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 08:55 am
candidone1 wrote:
I'm not sure why the insistence on framing any of these questions around democrats. They haven't held the White House in over 6 years.
The questions are relevent to the current administration and should only be posed to a dem if they are in power....not as hypothetical jibes intended to deflect the responsibilities of the current administration to undertake some of the pressing issues of the day.


They are part of the political process and are the party trying to win our vote to become the majority.

If they want my vote, they need to show me how they will address these issues. I already know how the republicans will handle these issues. Do they have a better alternative?

That is why it is important. The Democrats need to earn my vote.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:02 am
woiyo wrote:
Since you are a partisen democrat, please tell me how the democratic party platform answers your questions.

"I don't have any ideas but I'd be happy enumerate any flaws in your ideas."

This is exactly the Republican position that Cyclo is highlighting.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:05 am
If you look at the thread topic woiyo, this is about the rebublicans.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:18 am
woiyo wrote:
candidone1 wrote:
I'm not sure why the insistence on framing any of these questions around democrats. They haven't held the White House in over 6 years.
The questions are relevent to the current administration and should only be posed to a dem if they are in power....not as hypothetical jibes intended to deflect the responsibilities of the current administration to undertake some of the pressing issues of the day.


They are part of the political process and are the party trying to win our vote to become the majority.

If they want my vote, they need to show me how they will address these issues. I already know how the republicans will handle these issues. Do they have a better alternative?

That is why it is important. The Democrats need to earn my vote.


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Um, could you do me a favor Cyclo and address these same questions towards New York State Junior Senator Hillary Clinton?


Woiyo, Miller:

I'll do you a favor. You go ahead and list some answers to these questions for me - they don't have to be long - and I'll forward my list of questions in an email to Hillary Clinton and other Dems and see what they say.

Never Defend, Always Attack(tm) in action, folks.

Cycloptichorn
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:38 am
What is the plan for winning the war on terror? -

Subquestions:

What is being done to stop terrorism? - Programs like the terrorist surveillance program, programs that track funding to and from terrorists, cooperating with other nations intelligence agencies, pressuring terrorists groups in their home countries, economic sanctions against countries that support terrorism, holding terrorists so they can no longer be a threat. I am sure there are many more programs at work behind the scenes that the NYT have not been able to receive leaks about keeping our country safe from the terroists.

Why should the average American fear terrorism more than other causes of death? - They shouldn't, death is death. But, terrorism is beyond our personal realm of control. Eating healthy and excercising can reduce yor risks of heart attack. Taking small bites and chewing can reduce your risks of choking, living in a safe neighborhood can reduce your risk of violent crime, driving defensively can reduce your chance of auto accidents, learning self defence can reduce your chances of being harmed physically and fighting terrorism can reduce your chance of being a victim of terrorism.

In what way can Islaamic Fundamentalism conquer America? - Through the use of terrorism, they can vastly reduce our economy, they can use chemical, biological or nuclear weapons to destroy agriculture, water tables and large populations clustered in cities. It takes very small groups to inflict lots of damage with modern weapons. It really wouldn't take much to reduce the American economy to 2nd world status very quickly and would take a long time to rebuild from it. I don't beleive it is the ultimate goal to conquer America so much as to simply destroy it and it's influence in the world.

How would an Islaamic army cross the Atlantic ocean and attack us? - It wouldn't be an army.

How would they force Americans to convert to Islaam? - they can't

How would Islaamic terrorists hold America once it has been conquered? - I don't believe their goal is to conquer America, they wouldn't want or need to. It would be enough for them to make the US turtle up and repair the damage they do to our country.

What is being done to defend our borders and ports? - Increased airport security, larger budget for border patrol, a fence legislated to be built, more border agents being hired, illegal immigrant legislation being discussed, I am sure there is more, but that is all off the top of my head.

What is being done to defend our chemical and nuclear facilities? - Lots, but I personally don't know the details.

What is the plan for winning the War in Iraq?

Subquestions:

Does it require greater troop strengths? - perhaps.

What kind of planning was done for the post-war period by US leadership? - That the Iraqi people would be happy to be free of the evil regime of Saddam Hussein and would rise up as a country and seek a democratic governance. Obviously the plans they made weren't correct.

How are we going to stop the rampant sectarian violence? - Training Iraqi troops and police forces, Hunting and Killing terrorists and insurgent forces. Working with Iraqi forces to do the same. Setting up a central, representative government. Educating the populace of the dangers of the insurgency. Keeping American troops in Iraq.

How are we going to divide oil revenues fairly amongst Iraqis? - Not up to us, but the Iraqi government.

At what point will we be able to disengage from Iraq completely? - When the Iraqis ask us to and it is safe to do so.

How much longer do you project America will have a significant presence in Iraq? - At least two more years.

What are we doing to combat the spiraling costs of our occupation? - Paying it.

Now, I have answered Cyc's question and would appreciate not having to defend each and every point. These are my answers and if you have a difference of opinion, that is fine.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:38 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
What is the plan for winning the war on terror?


Get moderate muslims and european countries to understand the danger of the radical muslims and stop appeasing them. Easier said than done which is why I expect things to get a lot worse before they get better.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
Why should the average American fear terrorism more than other causes of death?


I don't know why they should fear it more than other causes of death. I personally don't fear it all that much right now... but do feel that unless something is done to prevent it now, there will be a reason to fear it more in the future.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
In what way can Islaamic Fundamentalism conquer America?


I think the biggest threat is that they will get the rest of the world to do that for them. America is a big easy target and by playing the victims in all of this, the fundamentalists are doing a great job turning the appeasers of the world on their side. All the time infiltrating societies around the world and planning to do the same thing to them.

At the moment, the moderate muslims outnumber the fundies... but I don't think this will last. You have to look long and hard to find any muslim that actually condemns the actions of the fundies. Deep down I think they buy into their beliefs. And I think that eventually the number of fundies will be large enough to cause serious harm to the US.

I'm not sure if it would be enought to actually destroy the US... but that certainly isn't a reason for waiting to find out.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
How would an Islaamic army cross the Atlantic ocean and attack us?


They already have. I think you are in the mindset of thinking about traditional war. That isn't the way it will happen. You can do large amounts of damage with a small number of people. There won't be a large scale war like WWI or WWII. It will come in the form of increased terror attacks. We won't know where or when they are coming and we can only dream how they will be carried out.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
How would they force Americans to convert to Islaam?


Ask Steve Centanni. Just because it isn't a realistic goal doesn't stop them from trying or killing those that refuse.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
How would Islaamic terrorists hold America once it has been conquered?


I don't think they will conquer America but I do think they could do us serious harm and actually succeed in taking away some of our freedoms.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
What is being done to defend our borders and ports?


Not nearly enough.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
What is being done to defend our chemical and nuclear facilities?


Not nearly enough.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
What is the plan for winning the War in Iraq?


Train the Iraqi forces so they can eventually take over. I would also suggest increasing our troop strength in the mean time to help control the fighting and increase the rate in which the Iraqis are trained.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
Does it require greater troop strengths?


Yes.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
What kind of planning was done for the post-war period by US leadership?


Not nearly enough. I think they underestimated the post-saddam resistance and did a horrible job planning for it and reacting to it.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
How are we going to stop the rampant sectarian violence?


I don't think that will stop. They are in a play for power right now and niether side wants the other to win.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
How are we going to divide oil revenues fairly amongst Iraqis?


Support an iraqi government that has that goal in mind.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
At what point will we be able to disengage from Iraq completely?


When it is detirmined that there are enough Iraqis trained to take over.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
How much longer do you project America will have a significant presence in Iraq?


A long long time.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
What are we doing to combat the spiraling costs of our occupation?


We certainly aren't cutting spending elsewhere. tax revenue has increased but not nearly enough to pay for the war.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
If the war in Iraq is helping to train more terrorists, how is it making Americans safer in the long run?


Well... the the short term, the terrorists are there and being killed as opposed to being somehere else and not being killed. In the long term and ideally, the new Iraq would be an ally of the US, not be a training ground for terrorists and actully help us in the fight against them... right now that looks like a long shot.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
How does cutting taxes on the rich, benefit the majority of Americans?


Taxes were cut for everyone. The rich just happen to make more money so the raw number looks higher because they had more to cut. This also leaves them more money for future investment and expansion. People who make a lot of money don't just make it and then bury it in their backyard. They re-invest it. This is what helps the majority of Americans. It creates jobs. Creates revenues. Creates innovation.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
Exactly which jobs have been created, in which industries, by the tax cuts which have greatly benefitted the rich?


Don't know... exactly.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
What historical points of evidence support the theory that voodoo economics work?


Most recently, we saw tax cuts followed by increased tax revenues. Many of those increased tax revenues came from capital gains, which presumably benefits only the rich, yet are also paid for by the rich. So while they made more money during this time period, they also paid more during the same period... not in tax rates but in total dollars. This benefits everyone.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
How much has the average American family benefitted from Bush's tax cut plans?


Don't know for sure but I have seen the number $68 thrown around a lot. Not sure how that number was made or what factored into it.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
How do we plan to pay off our mounting debts and lower deficits in the face of reduced taxation?


By the increased tax revenues that the reduced taxation rate make. We could also, and I think this is most important, stop spending so much freakin' money.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
How does Gay Marriage harm anyone?


It doesn't.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
Under our system of laws, why should Gay Americans be barred from enjoying the same rights as straight Americans?


They shouldn't.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
How, specifically, is anyone else's marriage harmed by allowing Gays to marry each other?


They aren't.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
What historical evidence can you show that people have been affected by Gay Marriage in a negative fashion?


I can't.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
What studies show that children are harmed by Gay Marriage?


Don't know.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
Why is selective biblical evidence presented to provide a religious rationale for being against Gay marriage?


Because fanatical religion blinds people.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:43 am
Thanks both of you

Cycloptichorn
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:48 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
woiyo wrote:
candidone1 wrote:
I'm not sure why the insistence on framing any of these questions around democrats. They haven't held the White House in over 6 years.
The questions are relevent to the current administration and should only be posed to a dem if they are in power....not as hypothetical jibes intended to deflect the responsibilities of the current administration to undertake some of the pressing issues of the day.


They are part of the political process and are the party trying to win our vote to become the majority.

If they want my vote, they need to show me how they will address these issues. I already know how the republicans will handle these issues. Do they have a better alternative?

That is why it is important. The Democrats need to earn my vote.


Quote:
Um, could you do me a favor Cyclo and address these same questions towards New York State Junior Senator Hillary Clinton?


Woiyo, Miller:

I'll do you a favor. You go ahead and list some answers to these questions for me - they don't have to be long - and I'll forward my list of questions in an email to Hillary Clinton and other Dems and see what they say.

Never Defend, Always Attack(tm) in action, folks.

Cycloptichorn


I'm not attacking. I already stated these are good questions that neither party has answered.

We already know how the republicans will handle these issues. Why should I vote for democrats if they are unwilling to answer the same questions?

Apparently, you are the one who is being defensive and attacking ME!!

Whats wrong? Don;t the Democrats have a platform they are proud to wave in front of the independant voter?
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candidone1
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:59 am
woiyo wrote:
Whats wrong? Don;t the Democrats have a platform they are proud to wave in front of the independant voter?


Go back and read the thread title again. It's not about providing a platform upon which the democrats stand, or that they will market to potential republican swing voters.
I thought it was quite clear what was being asked.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 10:08 am
Thanks for responding, both of you.

One question, JP:

Quote:

I don't think they will conquer America but I do think they could do us serious harm and actually succeed in taking away some of our freedoms.


You don't think that this has already happened?

If we do take away the freedoms, isn't that what the terrorists want?

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 10:09 am
Cyclo, Good answer. At the moment, it's the republicans that got us into this mess, and they're trying to deflect it by saying, do democrats ahve the answer to solve this mess the republicans created. That's about as elementary as one can expect from republicans.

You created the mess, now provide some answers and clean it up!

Everybody seems to have forgotten, this was supposed to be a "short, successful" war.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 10:11 am
candidone1 wrote:
woiyo wrote:
Whats wrong? Don;t the Democrats have a platform they are proud to wave in front of the independant voter?


Go back and read the thread title again. It's not about providing a platform upon which the democrats stand, or that they will market to potential republican swing voters.
I thought it was quite clear what was being asked.


Once again, I am not a republican "swing" voter.

You refusal to state a democratic party position on these important questions is telling me what I have suspected all along. The democrats have no clue either.

Very well done. You are a very good parrot for the democratic party.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 10:11 am
JP, I worded that badly.

What I meant to say was: it seems to me that terrorists and terrorism cannot take away our freedoms. At all. All they can do is try to convince us to take away our own freedoms. Which is exactly what seems to be happening.

Given that this plays into the strategy of the terrorists - remove America's greatest strength, her freedom - why are we doing it?

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 10:13 am
woiyo wrote:
candidone1 wrote:
woiyo wrote:
Whats wrong? Don;t the Democrats have a platform they are proud to wave in front of the independant voter?


Go back and read the thread title again. It's not about providing a platform upon which the democrats stand, or that they will market to potential republican swing voters.
I thought it was quite clear what was being asked.


Once again, I am not a republican "swing" voter.

You refusal to state a democratic party position on these important questions is telling me what I have suspected all along. The democrats have no clue either.

Very well done. You are a very good parrot for the democratic party.


Woiyo, I'll be more than happy to answer the questions this afternoon. But you may not like the answers.

Cycloptichorn
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