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How come some days I can, and some days I almost can't?

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 02:09 am
Re: How come some days I can, and some days I almost can't?
roger wrote:
dlowan wrote:
Why oh why on some days can I herb along effortlessly (like last Thursday) and barely notice anything (until the last hill in the am) and other days feel like I am having to force myself to put one leg in front of the other, and am really tired when I get to work? Some variation I understand, or when I am ill, but this is nuts.


I experienced the same thing back when I was walking, and still now that I'm on the bike. Since the feeling sometimes changes in the middle of a session, I would like to put it down to attitude, but it may just be a bad program. You do need your rest days, as well as enough rest and sleep on a daily basis.

Actually, I thing you should ask ehBeth and Dagmaraka about this. They both helped when I posted a similar question, way back when, and they both got lot'sa smarts.

You might notice I make no comments about crampyness. That's because I'm clueless. I'm quite serious about who to ask, by the way.


Thankee...I'll see if they make it...and if not PM the buggers!



sozobe wrote:
ossobuco wrote:
So, for me, understanding that I'm unusual, a syringe full is not a big deal.


My phobia was cemented when I was being poked and prodded by specialists all over the country to try to figure out why I was losing my hearing. I had too many incompetents who did horrible things -- I have very small veins that are hard to get at, and there were things like a novice digging around trying to find the vein. Really painful and just psychically ACK.

I have had blood taken many times since and always get through it OK -- I don't faint or anything -- and am copiously grateful to anyone who does it well. Once I set my mind to it I'm usually fine -- but the setting sometimes takes a while.


(Agreed with JPB's penultimate line in her spacey post.)



I am ok with blood taking, but I HATE other injections. But only since I was traumatised.


JPB wrote:
dlowan wrote:
Now Little k needs a check up?


You people are hypervigilant!



no, not k.





I, like, know, dude.




dadpad wrote:
Ok I have this figured out.

YOU HAVE GRASS TETANY.

The appearance of hyperexcitability is accompanied in milk calves by a reduction in the magnesium and calcium levels of the blood serum.4
This is illustrated by Figure 6, which shows that as the milk calf grows older the magnesium and calcium levels 5 in its blood serum progressively diminish.6 Convulsions ensue when these levels become dangerously low.

Flossy = hyperexitable
Flossy = grazing animal
are you prone to convulsing?




So much activity, so little help.......



ossobuco wrote:
Nod to Jpb.. I've had some fine people try it out on my vein as a first time.

Well, my veins were already wrecked as I needed small aliquots every time I did the old ANAs (anti nuclear antibody... surely by now an old test).

At least for a while I wore long sleeved shirts going through customs...



WTF is an aliquot?


I know....I could look it up.....but you started it.



littlek wrote:
dadpad wrote:
If you can afford bananas, they pay you too much.

Strike that.

You actully deserve more.


Bananas are 04ch 04ch chea-er here. Gah! I hate this computer!




We had this cyclone thing that fucked the bananas...and now this drought thing.


Why does god hate bananas?




Diane wrote:
A friend with terrible leg cramps told me that tonic water was always helpful.

While looking into what Google might say about cramps, I came across a site that had the usual suggestions along with some hilarious wive's tales:

http://www.otan.dni.us/webfarm/emailproject/legcramp.htm

"INGREDIENTS: sewing thread
INSTRUCTIONS: Take regular sewing thread and cut into a length long enough to tie around your ankle, but let it be slightly loose. I'm not sure how it works, but the thread will knot up instead of your muscles.


Ingredients: one bar of soap
Instructions: For leg cramps at night place unrapped bar of dry soap under the covers near you legs and leave it there. Most everyone will think your crazy for trying this, but it works... And if nothing else it smells nice.


nstructions: My grandmother was told by my great-great grandmother to take your shoes, turn them upside down and place them under your bed (generally with the toes facing out) It seems odd but works..."



Who cares what the smeg she said...it was Diane!


Can't we and Dys schedule a regular chat or something?


JPB wrote:
yep, it's the quinine

Quote:
Quinine is also used to treat nocturnal leg cramps and arthritis and it has also been used (with limited success) to treat people who had been infected by prions. It was once a popular heroin adulterant. wiki on quinine




Quinine?


It's medicinal only gin and tonic then?


Awwww....pooor me.



JPB wrote:
Deb, this pre-bed stretch might help prevent cramps.

Quote:
How can cramps be prevented?

Drinking plenty of fluids may help to prevent reoccurring cramps, as fluids help muscles contract and relax. Drink 6-8 cups of liquid per day, preferably non-caffeinated drinks.

Daily stretching may help prevent nocturnal leg cramps. Before sleep, stand just short of a metre from a wall with hands on the wall. While bending one knee, lean towards the wall and hold for ten seconds keeping the heels pressed flat to the floor before straightening the knee. Repeat using the other leg. Each leg should be stretched up to ten times for best effect.

For continual, frequent cramps, seek medical advice. A doctor may prescribe a suitable muscle relaxant and can check there are no underlying problems causing the cramps. source




Thankee.......



What if they are pre bed?
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eoe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 10:41 am
Did we ever get to the bottom of some days you can and other days, you can't?

That happened to me today. I upped the resistance on my elliptical trainer on Friday and started taking Hydroxycut and altho' it was a hard workout, I got through it. And felt soooooo good afterwards. But today? I did ten minutes, stopped, tried to start back twice and finally, after fifteen minutes, I just gave up. I don't know what happened? I just couldn't find the will today to keep going. None of the pep talks worked, the music didn't help, nothing.

Usually if I'm down about something, that will affect my workout negatively but I feel fine mentally. Don't know what got in the way today. Rolling Eyes
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 10:48 am
pain is weakness leaving the body... keep at it and keep hydrated and take potassium. Also just a tinch of meth in your coffee 15 minutes before leving home.....
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 10:55 am
Right, BP, and "Pain is temporary, quitting is forever.", if you can handle another platitude this early.
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eoe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 10:57 am
That's a good one, Roger. I'll add that to the repertoire altho no encouragement worked today.
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flushd
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 11:00 am
Ifn ya go with the bananas, scarf one down straight after the walk. Some nuts or protein or something too.

stretch stretch stretch. Do you like baths? Very Happy Mmm, muscle soak. And you get the to be all girlie with bath stuff. Relaxo time.

Shoes? With the wackyback, maybe an insert in the one shoe and really, really good shoes.

Dunno why some days feel like hell and others a romp. I clink it down to 'tired' 'pushing too hard'. Crampies too. It is soooo tempting especially when you start to feel so good about doing what you set to do, to push it. Surprisingly easy too. Crying or Very sad

I also think you need one of the men here at A@K to be your person man-slave-masseure.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 11:04 am
Deb -

Aliquot -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliquot
In mathematics, an aliquot part (or simply aliquot) of an integer is any of its integer divisors. For instance, 2 is an aliquot of 12. The sum of all the aliquots of an integer n is the value ?(n) of the divisor function ? at n.
In chemistry, an aliquot is usually a portion of a total amount of a solution.
The word is formed of the Latin aliquoties, "several times".


Well, we would portion aliquots of a solution into test tubes, say, for example, 5 cc. per tube...

or in the case of blood to make smears for doing ANA tests, I only needed 5 cc. to have enough to make enough smears for a few days' tests... a little like saying "I took a blood sample".
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 12:39 pm
This summer, a physician recommended to me that when I was wakened by what had become annoying and sleep-disruptive leg cramps, I should stumble out of bed and drink a cup or so of water. I was 'mazed at the near instant efficacy of it.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 12:48 pm
Piffka!!! It has been ages since you've been here - hoping, all is well!
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 01:07 pm
everything smart and useful has been said already. water, magnesium, calcium...that all helps.

one thing that helps me is oxygenation of blood as well (which magnesium may be good for, as well) - but so is green tea, for example. start with green tea and deep breathing exercises by an open window in the morning. just five minutes may do the trick. and when feeling tired, speed up. seriously. unless the tiredness is purely physical. i exercise especially when i'm tired or hungover, gets the blood flowing and perks me up right away. and when i feel sluggish on the bike, i stand up on the pedals and push harder for a bit, or spin fast....

but i'm a masochist. i also disregard muscle spasms. they come when i walk fast (for i'm more used to biking), generally i ignore them. i figure i just have to walk more often. i guess they're not too bad, for i never had to stop or anything... so i might not be of much help re cramps.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 01:39 pm
About the cramping, be sure to replenish your electrolytes, and make it a habit to stretch your body, concentrating especially on the particular muscles you feel are cramping.

This from Wikipedia:
There are two basic causes of cramping. One is inadequate oxygenation of muscle, and the other is lack of water or salt. Cramps from poor oxygenation can be improved by rapid deep breathing, as well as stretching the muscle. Cramps from lack of salt and water can be treated by stretching the muscle, and of course drinking water and increasing salt intake. Pounding on the muscle can increase soreness.

Muscle cramps in particular can be treated by applying a soft massage on the cramped muscle, stretching the muscle and applying heat or cold. Heat improves superficial blood circulation and makes muscles more flexible, so some people find that heat is more soothing for muscle cramps than applying ice.


Electrolyte disturbance may cause cramping and tetany of muscles, particularly hypokalemia (a low level of potassium) and hypocalcemia (a low level of calcium).

Muscle cramps may be a symptom of Hypothyroidism.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 01:58 pm
Walter wrote:
...hoping, all is well!


All is very well for me. And you? I hope for you it is also very good. It's been a while for me to be here... I know. I stopped in to see what condition the election was in, ala a2k, and happened on Deb's complaint which sounded similar to one I had this summer.
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George
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 02:41 pm
I can attest to the virtues of hydration and trace elements.

I am prone to cramps in my calves and the arch of my foot and am
sometimes rudely awakened by very painful cramps because I am not
very good about getting enough water. Add to that, I drink way too much
coffee.

I also get cramps in my upper abdominals. They are the only evidence
that I have abdominal muscles.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 03:14 pm
roger wrote:
Right, BP, and "Pain is temporary, quitting is forever.", if you can handle another platitude this early.


Those platitudes make my brain cramp dude....
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 03:47 pm
You might check this somewhat related discussion., Dlowen. Relates more to being tired than cramps.
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George
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 03:54 pm
Nermal?
Heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 04:58 pm
Piffka, it's lovely to see you..
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 05:27 pm
And what, pray tell, is the matter with "Nermal"?

Answer me, George.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 05:29 pm
dlowan, We all have our up and down days on our energy level. It may have to do with how well you rested the night before or your diet; and maybe a combination of both. I don't worry too much about my down days, unless it lasts longer than a few days.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 05:34 pm
Back in the seventies and eighties and, who knows, even now, there was a bunch of biocycle stiuff under discussion, and woe betide you the day all your cycles (3, as I remember) were down at the same time. Mechanistic person that I am, I ascribe the fluctuation it to one or the other matters that InfraBlue is talking about.
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