When Does Life Begin?

IFeelFree wrote:

One of the unfortunate aspects of most Christian teachings is that they are very sex-negative.

Teaching the difference between use and misuse isn't negative. It's the right thing to do.

You would teach the difference between use and misuse in many other areas of life. How come you can't understand that it applies to sex also?

Here's a great example of 'safe sex education'...........

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BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
Posted: July 11, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

The physicians and other opponents of the new home-grown curriculum first had asked the Montgomery County Board of Education, then the state board, to include a warning about anal sex that is critical to student safety - as issued by the Office of the Surgeon General and the National Institutes of Health.

I'm not even sure where to begin... hahaha...

No, I don't know the exact moment life begins, and I don't think I need to as I stated earlier.......

real life wrote:

Here's a great example of 'safe sex education'...........

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BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
Posted: July 11, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

The physicians and other opponents of the new home-grown curriculum first had asked the Montgomery County Board of Education, then the state board, to include a warning about anal sex that is critical to student safety - as issued by the Office of the Surgeon General and the National Institutes of Health.

I'm glad to see you're encouraging of more specific, and important, information being provided.

Real Life wrote:

I know many homosexuals -- at work I have hired and been hired by homosexuals, in my neighborhood, and in my extended family. NONE of them that I have known profess to be Christians.

Diest wrte:
I know many homosexuals as well, and many of them identify as being Christian, Muslim etc. Spirituality is a personal thing, and they have reclaimed it for themselves. Their are now many Gay Churches and youth groups, etc.


This part of the disucussion doesn't make any sense; there are homosexuals in all cultures, races, country and many families. That includes all religions and the non-religious; it's universal.

Everyone appears to have missed the point.

It's A Girl? I'm Having An Abortion

Posted Jul 13th 2007 10:58AM by Dinesh D'Souza
Filed under: Gay and Lesbian, Abortion, Cultural Left

The effort by Western groups like Planned Parenthood International to promote legalization of abortion throughout the world has produced a strange side effect: the mass-scale killing of female fetuses. Several years ago the New York Review of Books published an article on the tens of millions of women "missing" around the world because they were killed off before being born.

In India, the practice of female feticide has eliminated approximately 10 million women. The country has a preponderance of men over women--1000 women for every 927 men. Recognizing the growing problem, the government is now taking steps to monitor abortions based on sex selection. Health minister Renuka Chowdhury says she wants to make sure there are "valid and acceptable reasons" for abortion. Ah, yes, but the moment you admit that, you abandon the logic of abortion-on-demand, which is that abortions should be entirely the decision of the person having them.

In the West, a new issue looms on the horizon. If homosexuality has a genetic component, technology is making it more likely that pregnant women will be able to tell whether their unborn child is going to be gay or not. Once this happens, it's quite possible that we will see lots of people opting to abort homosexual fetuses. Anti-gay prejudice need not be the reason; many parents may simply not want a son or daughter to go through the difficulties of being gay in a largely heterosexual society. We can expect to hear things like, "I'm doing this for its own sake."

Today the safest place for unborn girls in India, China, and many other countries is in the womb of religious women and women who oppose abortion. Similarly the cultural left may soon discover that the safest place for gay fetuses in America and Europe are the wombs of evangelical Christians and prolife women

Yep and it's why I can successfully argue that if a fetus is a potential human being, then so must be human sperm and/or ova and/or any cellular material which can through bio-engineering (or otherwise) become a human being.

This is precisely (and absurdly) why neo and real life have no choice but to argue that a fertilized egg is a de facto human being.

Chumly wrote:

Yep and it's why I can successfully argue that if a fetus is a potential human being, then so must be human sperm and/or ova and/or any cellular material which can through bio-engineering (or otherwise) become a human being.

This is precisely (and absurdly) why neo and real life have no choice but to argue that a fertilized egg is a de facto human being.

A sperm or egg does not have the required number of chromosomes (46) to be a living human being, Chumly.

The unborn does have 46 chromosomes. Thus the unborn is not a 'potential human being'. He (or she) IS a living human being.

I know you don't understand the difference, but I thought I'd point it out for the benefit of those who can understand it.

real life wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Yep and it's why I can successfully argue that if a fetus is a potential human being, then so must be human sperm and/or ova and/or any cellular material which can through bio-engineering (or otherwise) become a human being.

This is precisely (and absurdly) why neo and real life have no choice but to argue that a fertilized egg is a de facto human being.

A sperm or egg does not have the required number of chromosomes (46) to be a living human being, Chumly.

The unborn does have 46 chromosomes. Thus the unborn is not a 'potential human being'. He (or she) IS a living human being.

I know you don't understand the difference, but I thought I'd point it out for the benefit of those who can understand it.

My living skin cells all have the requisite 46 chromosomes, thus according to your argument all my skin cells are all living human beings. I'd better not scratch too hard or I'll be accused by you of derma-side.