Black man, white man and jewish man: racism and comedy ....

Oh yeah?

I grew up in a watermelon field.

I grew up in a gawumpki patch.

Chris Rock has no talent. He has to resort to making jokes about black people to get a laugh. What a talentless douche.

I'll tell you who is funny: Jerry Seinfeld!!! LOL! He jokes about things like cell phone coverage!!!! LOL!!! Now THAT is comedy, my friends!

How about when he makes jokes about pumping gas?


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Richard Pryor wasn't funny, either.







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Yeah, all those people who buy Chris Rock and who bought Richard Pryor comedy just don't know humor.

Good thing there are only MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of them, buying that unfunny stuff.

they are all crack heads.

undoubtedly

Pryor, I owe him.

Ali G is a racist, this is obvious from his comedy, his racism is tolerated because it is directed towards Blacks, arabs and germans.

Pryor, Chapelle and Rock(less so) sell lets of stuff because they conform to the denegration of black people.

Black people are 'allowed to succeed' in entertainment if the humilate their own people, the situtaion can be summed up by martin lawerance in one sentance ' we are gona rise as a muthaf*** nation?!'

Most black comedians comedy is an oxymoron, contradiction in terms.

Comedy rules state you can humilate any race as long as it is your own or blacks, or Europeans.

Certain races have an immunity in comedy.

People say these black comedians joke about white people to.......thats bull the only joke they do about white people is how they are scared of black people.............ow hurra!!!

Pryor, murphy, chapelle, rock all have done the lines about white folks being scared of black people and the rest of the time the spend talking about how f*** up their own people are, which i think is disgusting and wrong, they are comedy whores.

Ali G is worse than that he is a non-black non arab non german reviving entertainment on the lines of the minstrel show.

How the hell would he like someone doing a whole show about his ethnic origins? It would fly like a lead ballon.

Racism is wrong even in comedy, it needs to be sorted and white folk stop pushing sh*t that we just laugh at other peoples expense, its not liberal its wrong.

Ahem, Steve. Ali G is a character.

Do you have no idea at all of a character in a play or movie?

Do you have no idea of irony?

Please... get off your soap box and investigate the roots of comedy.

You are buying into the dramatized character and not understanding the person using that character in a kind of performance literature.

Your repetitions of how bad that character is ... is getting a little tiring. It is a MADE UP CHARACTER.

ok so its fictious therefore its acceptable...........

The reason why some people want me to get off my 'soap box' is because I am letting the cat out of the bag, and its making you nervous.

This is a discussion forum and this is the debate section, so if you dont like me expressing views you put the wrong address in the search box, and if I am so boring and reptitive why do you keep coming back ?? Just to try to silence me or troll the thread?

If dont like this thread go and find one that amuses you.

Ali G's comedy is accepted because it is at the expense of minority races.

Black comedians are allowed to succeed because they denegrate black people, and since white folk are not allowed to do it anymore they pay black guys to do it and sit in the audience and have good belly laugh.

Black people are encouraged to buy into the crap because they fed the idea that the 'process' is liberating and 'liberating' and people should be able to 'laugh at themselves'

well what everyone fails to tell them is the joke is on them, and they are the only people that are dengerated in this way, even people who are not from their race can 'have a go' and black people are told to grin and bear.

Those people who ar trying to defend the racist Ali G have failed to read the links to my first post.............

heres a NEWS FLASH********************

there are many black people and some comedians, who agree with me that Ali G character done by Cohen is racist.

not to mention the Kazakhstani people have stated they found his portrayal of their people and nation disgusting and racist.

Kazakhstan's Foreign Ministry is threatening to sue him for portraying the central Asian state in a "derogatory way." The 34-year-old British comic is under attack for "Borat Sagdiyev," a faux Kazakh TV personality he plays, who gleefully describes his countrymen as drunken sexual deviants.


And here we have people who are trying to force us NOT TO QUESTION COHEN OR DEBATE HIS RACISM OR ANYTHING TO WITH HIM??

I WONDER WHY THAT IS??

Nov. 15, 2005 ?- Did you hear the one about the comic who so thoroughly offended a foreign country he could face legal action from its government?

Sacha Baron Cohen, star of the "Da Ali G Show," is doing his part to put Howard Stern's FCC battles into perspective. Kazakhstan's Foreign Ministry is threatening to sue him for portraying the central Asian state in a "derogatory way." The 34-year-old British comic is under attack for "Borat Sagdiyev," a faux Kazakh TV personality he plays, who gleefully describes his countrymen as drunken sexual deviants.

* Ali G's International Incident


Earlier this month, Cohen appeared as Borat to host the MTV Europe Music awards show in Lisbon, telling the audience that he arrived on an "Air Kazakh" aircraft, a propeller plane flown by a vodka-swilling pilot.

On his wildly popular HBO show, Cohen's Borat describes himself as the "sixth best known Kazakh in the world." He ruminates over "the terrible events of 7-11" and asks questions such as, "Is Disneyland part of the U.N.?"

"In the U.S. and A. they treat horses like we in Kazakhstan treat our women," he says in one episode. "They feed them two times a day. They have them sleep on straw in a small box. And for entertainment, they make them jump over fences while being whipped."

Kazakh officials have complained before about Cohen, as have other groups who see nothing funny about his spoofs, but this is the first time they have threatened to slap him with a lawsuit. It's unclear where and for what they'd sue him, and if they did, their chances of success would seem remote. But the threat clearly underscored their frustration.

"We do not rule out that Mr. Cohen is serving someone's political order designed to present Kazakhstan and its people in a derogatory way," Kazakh Foreign Ministry spokesman Yerzhan Ashykbayev said Monday in a press conference.

"We reserve the right to any legal action to prevent new pranks of the kind."

'… And Your Home in the Grave'

Posing as Borat, Cohen has been successful in landing interviews with such luminaries as Newt Gingrich, Buzz Aldrin, Brent Scowcroft, Ralph Nader, Donald Trump and Sam Donaldson. While some of his guests have been good-natured about their appearances, a few have claimed they were misled. Others have complained that Cohen just goes way too far.

In January, Cohen's Borat drew the ire of several Jewish groups and Kazakhstan officials, after he led patrons of an Arizona bar in a song called "Throw the Jew Down the Well," which he declared was a popular ditty in his native land.

"It's not quite helpful to portray a country where 'Throw the Jew Down the Well' is a famous folk song," a Kazakhstan embassy spokesman, Roman Vassilenko, said in a statement.

In another instance, Cohen sang the national anthem at a Salem, Va., rodeo, posing as a Middle Eastern man wearing an American flag shirt and a cowboy hat. He mangled the words ?- singing ''and your home in the grave" rather than "and the home of the brave" and called on President Bush to ''drink the blood of every man, woman and child in Iraq.''

In July, Cohen's Borat character visited the 150-year-old Mississippi plantation of George Matthews Marshall, claiming to be making a documentary about Southern hospitality. Marshall says he was outraged when a worker brought refreshments and Borat said, "Ah, I see you still have slaves here."

At the meeting, Cohen was accompanied by a woman who groped him and made several unseemly gestures, the 75-year-old Marshall said. When Cohen was asked to leave, he remained in character, shouting from the doorway, "I do not understand your customs!''

"I was so shocked, I didn't know what to think," Marshall later told reporters. "I told him people here get paid for a living."

Marshall says he plans to sue if the interview is included in Cohen's new movie, "Borat," which is slated to be released later this year.

While Cohen has critics, the controversy hasn't stemmed his meteoric rise. The Cambridge University-educated comic cultivated his humor in Britain in the late 1990s, and since bringing his act to America, he's landed several plum roles, including his steady gig at HBO. He was featured earlier this year in the animated kids' film "Madagascar," and he and Will Ferrell are on the fast track to appear as race car drivers in an untitled NASCAR-themed comedy, with Cohen playing a gay French racer.

Cohen had hosted the MTV Europe awards show once before, but as Ali G ?- his Jamaican British character ?- rather than as Borat. His recent show confirmed that his barbed tongue knows no bounds.

When Madonna performed the opening number, he quipped, "It was very brave of MTV to start the show with a transvestite." Some viewers even believed momentarily that the part of Madonna was being played by a female impersonator.

I'm not nervous.

I'm merely perplexed at your take on all this, SteveW.

I can only hope your knickers unwind in time. All your anger is aiming in the wrong direction. But, hey, go for it.

err...no. you're not letting anything out of anywhere and you're not making anyone nervous.



nope.

and...what did you say about if we don't like your thread to go find another one that we like? What a mighty fine idea. I suggest you do the same with Sacha Baron Cohen.

How do you stop black kids from jumping on the bed?

Put velcro on the ceiling.

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Clem pulled over the car by the side of the road and showed Jed where he'd first had sex.
"It was right down there by that tree. I remember the day plainly. It was a warm summer day. She and I were so much in love. We walked down to the tree and made love for hours," Clem recalled.

"That sounds wonderful," said Jed.

"Yes. It was okay until I looked up and noticed her mother was standing right there watching us."

"Oh my God! What did her mother say when she saw you making love to her daughter?"

"Baaaaa..."

So an official in the Kazakh government has his knickers in a twist (or is speaking on behalf of an official with bunched undies). Here's a couple of tidbits on the workings of the Kazakh government (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Kazakhstan).





I'm not sure I'd consider opinions from this government as reflective of anything other than paranoia, especially when they come out with statements like this:




As to direct complaints about material…



I've already mentioned this bit, which was disturbing - and I really do believe that this was the point - in that Cohen was able to get the patrons of this bar to happily clap, stomp, and sing along with "Throw the Jew down the well / So my country can be free / We must take him by his horns / And then we'll have a big party." Since you seem to want some equality in comedic attack, I'm not sure that you could come up with a more scathing bit about contemporary American white folks.



Which I take, given the venue and the attire, as a send of up Toby Keith and his like - country singers all-too-eager to invoke ethnic differences in calls to bomb the **** out of whatever brown people the American government is angry with at any given time.



Yep, he did do this. At a table full of old white southerners being waited upon by a silent and deferential staff composed entirely of young black people wearing white waistcoats and white gloves. More than a little reminiscent of slavery, even if the meal hadn't been served on an old plantation. But it was Cohen who was tasteless, not his hosts. Suuuuuuure.

Patiodog, everyone here with half a brain realizes a good deal of Cohen's bits involve revealing other people's prejudices and making them the joke.

However, it's pretty obvious there is one person here who is lucky to even have half a brain. Referring to an Austrian character as German, as a Kazahk character as Arab, and obviously not able to simply "get it."

Yeah, I know, just mental masturbation.