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THE DANGER OF GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONES

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Tue 11 Dec, 2007 09:46 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I bought that movie


Only one copy? What a weenie you are.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 11 Dec, 2007 02:03 pm
Relax everyone. Criminals and bad guys are no longer the real risk in such shootings. Tony Perkins has the goods. It is the secular media.

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It is hard not to draw a line between the hostility that is being fomented in our culture from some in the secular media toward Christians and evangelicals in particular and the acts of violence that took place in Colorado yesterday. But I will say no more for now other than that our friends at New Life Church and YWAM are in our thoughts and prayers.
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?c=HOME
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 12 Dec, 2007 09:15 am
More guns! Bigger guns! Americans must stand up and face the violence and evil of their neighbors! If only every one of those kids on that bus had been wearing belts with hanging and swollen grenade clusters (think Barbara Bush's hemmoroids) then the shooters would have thought twice.
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6 Shot Leaving Vegas School Bus

By KATHLEEN HENNESSEY
The Associated Press
Wednesday, December 12, 2007; 8:36 AM

LAS VEGAS -- Authorities were looking for two suspects Wednesday in the shooting of six young people at a school bus stop following a fight about a girl.

The six were shot Tuesday shortly after a group of Mohave High School students got off a school bus in a working-class neighborhood in northeastern Las Vegas. The suspects were believed to have fled on foot.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/12/AR2007121200311.html?hpid=moreheadlines
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Dec, 2007 02:09 pm
msolga wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
msolga wrote:
Even more guns around the place are not the answer, you know.

....

If u were a predatory criminal,
wud u rather prey upon a helpless victim,
or upon one who is well armed and ready to hurt u ?

Please tell us that.
David


Truly & honestly, David,
I find it almost impossible to get into that mind-set.

But perhaps this is because,
while you were watching all those westerns while growing up,
I was watching Disneyland! Very Happy :wink:

I was fond of " Gunsmoke " on Saturday nites.

Ms. Olga, I understand your answer to be that because of your
juvenile entertainment habits,
u cannot imagine whether a predatory ciminal wud rather attack
a WELL ARMED victim, who will hurt him when he attacks,
or
if he 'd prefer to attack a HELPLESS victim.





I also saw the mid-50s Disney Movie of the Revolutionary War,
called " Johnny Tremain " in which self defense was approved of.
I enjoyed that movie.

I also enjoyed the more recent movie on that subject, around 2000,
called " The Patriot " in which the virtues of self defense were demonstrated.
The part when 2 of the hero 's little boys opend up on the English,
with their muskets, to good effect, backing up their dad was enjoyable.
It seems that children 's minds are ofen trivialized,
making them appear stupid, which is not justified.
Thay are able to fight back.
This movie did not insult their intelligences.


David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Dec, 2007 02:23 pm
blatham wrote:


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More guns! Bigger guns!

In my opinion,
.44 special is optimal, with hollowpointed rounds;
I 'd not go with .44 magnum.
Next above that wud be an SMG,
but even a MAC 11 is too big & clumsy
to carry around all the time.
Maybe an H&K MP5 KA4 ? or a silenced SD5 ?
to avoid noise pollution


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Americans must stand up and face the violence
and evil of their neighbors!

Yes,
or anyone who wishes to be able to fight for his own property and survival.

Violent recidivists shud be removed
from the North American Continent ( unless the Canadians want them ).
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 13 Dec, 2007 05:02 pm
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Violent recidivists shud be removed
from the North American Continent ( unless the Canadians want them ).


I suppose that the culture which created them is the culture which deserves them.

Perhaps, if I might recommend, as regards your future, a bit less gun fetishism.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 13 Dec, 2007 05:13 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:

I also enjoyed the more recent movie on that subject, around 2000,
called " The Patriot " in which the virtues of self defense were demonstrated.
The part when 2 of the hero 's little boys opend up on the English...
David


British. Get it right.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Dec, 2007 06:38 pm
Steve 41oo wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:

I also enjoyed the more recent movie on that subject, around 2000,
called " The Patriot " in which the virtues of self defense were demonstrated.
The part when 2 of the hero 's little boys opened up on the English...
David


British. Get it right.

Well, thay were from England; that makes them ENGLISH.

I did not see the Scotch in that movie.
David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Dec, 2007 06:54 pm
blatham wrote:
Quote:
Violent recidivists shud be removed
from the North American Continent ( unless the Canadians want them ).


I suppose that the culture which created them is the culture which deserves them.

Perhaps, if I might recommend, as regards your future, a bit less gun fetishism.

Its more than a fetish.
Its the cornerstone of a way of life, to wit:
Individualism & libertarianism,
wherein each citizen is radically responsible
for the defense of his life and other property,
as distinct from reliance upon the state,
in the manner of Kitty Genovese and Reginald Denny.
Their confidence was misplaced; their faith in society was unjustified.

Thay needed to take care of themselves.

David
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 13 Dec, 2007 09:58 pm
Yeah, but I'm talking about the fetish for USING guns and weaponry. Abritrarily rent five American movies and count the death toll from bullets. Turn on a few hours of tv drama, any station. and add up the number of blown up heads and writhing bad guys without a kneecap. Or do a survey of video games available.

You guys in the US are, and I say this with all due respect, INSANELY MURDEROUS. Your gun fetish hasn't caused this, but is just part of it. At some point, if you really do care about innocents being shot, you really ought to wrestle with how pathologically violent American culture is.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Dec, 2007 11:21 pm
blatham wrote:


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Yeah, but I'm talking about the fetish for USING guns and weaponry.

Its a good idea to visit the gunnery range once in a while
to stay in shape; its kinda fun.
I have been repeatedly accosted there by attenders, including the police,
who admired the beauty of my ordnance.
Thay liked my taste.




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Abritrarily rent five American movies and count the death toll from bullets.
Turn on a few hours of tv drama, any station.
and add up the number of blown up heads and writhing bad guys without a kneecap.

Some movies or TV have stories that r unrelated to violence;
not all of them. Sometimes American dramatists like to be exciting.

Suppose I watch Basil Rathbone in a Sherlock Holmes movie
of England when it was free ?
or maybe one of Ian Fleming 's James Bond movies ?
or one of Agatha Christie 's Miss Marple movies ?

Did anyone get hurt in the works of Wm. Shakespeare ?


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Or do a survey of video games available.

I have seen some repulsive children 's video games on TV,
but everyone has a right to free expression.




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You guys in the US are,
and I say this with all due respect, INSANELY MURDEROUS.

Many of the guys who get slammed r bad guys who DESERVED IT;
i.e., it was not murder.
Sometimes we have movies like " Jaws " when the fish deserved what he got.



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Your gun fetish hasn't caused this, but is just part of it.

Maybe, but it is for self defense,
which is the opposite of murder
or
the cure for attempted murder and for robbery.
If someone attempts to murder me,
I certainly wish to be able to handle the situation
better than Kitty Genovese or Reginald Denny did.




Quote:

At some point, if you really do care about innocents being shot,
you really ought to wrestle with how pathologically violent American culture is.

and then WHAT ?
All we can do is offer opinions about culture.
Stalin, Hitler n Pol Pot cud and did change the cultures
by which thay were surrounded; we can 't do that.

What do u suggest for the culture ?
How do I make people adopt MY taste, within an ambiance of freedom

and individual choice ?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 14 Dec, 2007 02:29 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:

I also enjoyed the more recent movie on that subject, around 2000,
called " The Patriot " in which the virtues of self defense were demonstrated.
The part when 2 of the hero 's little boys opened up on the English...
David


British. Get it right.

Well, thay were from England; that makes them ENGLISH.

I did not see the Scotch in that movie.
David
Scots. Scottish is the adjective for someone originating from Scotland. Scotch is the drink. The four 'home' nations that make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland are England Scotland Northern Ireland and Wales. Commonly referred to as Great Britain or the United Kingdom. (although someone's going to pick me up on the status of the Isle of Man).

Foreign policy, which includes dealing with rowdy colonials, is determined by the British government if needs be using British troops. Typically they might be English Scottish Welsh or Northern Irish. Or Gurkhas.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2786991.stm
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 14 Dec, 2007 02:31 am
What about Jersey steve?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 14 Dec, 2007 02:34 am
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Status of the Islands

1.

The Islands are not part of the United Kingdom and have no representation in Parliament at Westminster. The "Crown Dependencies" comprise:
* the Bailiwick of Guernsey (including Alderney, Sark and Herm)
* the Isle of Man
* the Bailiwick of Jersey

2.

They are internally self-governing "Dependencies" of the Crown included in the term "British Islands". They are "British Possessions" but not "colonies" (schedule 1 to the Interpretation Act 1978). To distinguish them from the United Kingdom Overseas Territories (which term has replaced "Dependent Territories"), they should be referred to as "Crown Dependencies". You should ensure that any consultative or other process for overseas territories takes in all the Crown Dependencies.

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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 14 Dec, 2007 02:52 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:
...
Sometimes we have movies like " Jaws " when the fish deserved what he got.

Laughing Thanks David. What do you recommend for the law abiding fish? H&K. 0.44? And what about the problem of water?
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 14 Dec, 2007 02:53 am
Jeeze lucky you posted that steve. Otherwise i would have spent the rest of my life wondering about the status of Gurnsey and Sark.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 14 Dec, 2007 02:58 am
no probs dp

dont things move fast sometimes...

The status of Shark. ? Well there are good sharks and bad sharks. Its important for the liberty of all that the good fish are sufficiently tooled up to protect themselves from predatory criminal types[/b], particularly humans with revolvers.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 14 Dec, 2007 05:04 am
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vikorr
 
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Reply Fri 14 Dec, 2007 05:35 am
He was probably medicated in addition to the drugs and booze in order to see that.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 14 Dec, 2007 09:38 am
I saw a 'roo in my martini last night. He punched me in the nose.
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