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THE DANGER OF GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONES

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2007 05:34 pm
Advocate wrote:
Oral, you are dead wrong on Miller.


Nope. Afraid not.



Advocate wrote:
Thus, the Supreme Court clearly states that the second amendment provides for the right to bear in the context of a militia.


Which is pretty much what I already told you...... Very Happy
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 08:49 am
I gather then that you feel an individual does NOT have an unfettered right to bear arms.

But since you don't know what you are talking about, one has to wonder what you think.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 09:18 am
Advocate wrote:
I gather then that you feel an individual does NOT have an unfettered right to bear arms.


Depends on what "unfettered" means.



Advocate wrote:
But since you don't know what you are talking about, one has to wonder what you think.


You shouldn't run around falsely accusing people of your own ignorance (especially in the very same thread where you demonstrate your ignorance so graphically). Rolling Eyes
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 10:18 am
I just discovered my company has a "no weapons" policy, though they don't post it at the door. I'm going to have to seriously start petitioning to change that, though I may have to do it anonymously. Retarded rule anyway...
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 10:20 am
cjhsa wrote:
I just discovered my company has a "no weapons" policy, though they don't post it at the door. I'm going to have to seriously start petitioning to change that, though I may have to do it anonymously. Retarded rule anyway...


Um, why?

Do you feel that you are in fear for your life at work - to the point where you need a weapon?

Cycloptichorn
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 10:26 am
Actually, yes I do. You have no idea.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 10:35 am
cjhsa wrote:
Actually, yes I do. You have no idea.


Sounds like either:

A, you need a new job, or

B, you're just sort of a fearful, weak guy.

If you're not posting from Iraq, and you're not a cop, you don't need a gun.

Cycloptichorn
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 10:42 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
If you're not posting from Iraq, and you're not a cop, you don't need a gun.


Americans are free people. We don't have to need a gun. We just have to decide that we want one.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 11:06 am
cj has a point. As long as our society allows the mentally disturbed and other dangerous people ready access to guns, there will people in the workplace who may go postal at any time. I think that most of us can think of people who fit this description. There is no requirement that the rest of us stand around like sheep waiting for the slaughter.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 11:21 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Actually, yes I do. You have no idea.


Sounds like either:

A, you need a new job, or

B, you're just sort of a fearful, weak guy.

If you're not posting from Iraq, and you're not a cop, you don't need a gun.

Cycloptichorn


Again, you have no clue. But that is nothing new.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 11:58 am
oralloy wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
If you're not posting from Iraq, and you're not a cop, you don't need a gun.


Americans are free people. We don't have to need a gun. We just have to decide that we want one.


Deciding that you want something isn't a good reason to allow someone to have something, sorry.

For example, I've decided that I'd like a tank, three pipe bombs and a grenade launcher.

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 11:59 am
cjhsa wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Actually, yes I do. You have no idea.


Sounds like either:

A, you need a new job, or

B, you're just sort of a fearful, weak guy.

If you're not posting from Iraq, and you're not a cop, you don't need a gun.

Cycloptichorn


Again, you have no clue. But that is nothing new.


Great answer, as usual from you.

I've known many tough people in my life, and none of them needed a gun to feel secure in their life. Only the weak rely upon a weapon, especially to the extent which you seem to.

Cycloptichorn
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 12:06 pm
God created man. Abe Lincoln freed them. Sam Colt made them equal.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 12:08 pm
Hey Cyclops, the last time I checked, only 12 people had licenses to carry concealed firearms within the city of San Francisco.

One of them is Diane Feinstein.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 12:08 pm
cjhsa wrote:
God created man. Abe Lincoln freed them. Sam Colt made them equal.


They were already equal. All Colt did was give those with weak minds a crutch.

Cycloptichorn
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 12:09 pm
Only those with weak minds would favor gun control.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 12:18 pm
cjhsa wrote:
Only those with weak minds would favor gun control.


That was a weak comeback, not surprising..

Cycloptichorn
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 12:45 pm
cjhsa wrote:
Hey Cyclops, the last time I checked, only 12 people had licenses to carry concealed firearms within the city of San Francisco.

One of them is Diane Feinstein.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 12:51 pm
cjhsa wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Hey Cyclops, the last time I checked, only 12 people had licenses to carry concealed firearms within the city of San Francisco.

One of them is Diane Feinstein.


So what?

Way to f*ck up the quote boxes, genius

Cycloptichorn
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 04:31 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
If you're not posting from Iraq, and you're not a cop, you don't need a gun.


Americans are free people. We don't have to need a gun. We just have to decide that we want one.


Deciding that you want something isn't a good reason to allow someone to have something, sorry.


When it comes to something we have the Constitutional right to have (such as an automatic rifle), it is indeed good enough.

In addition, when it is something that people are legally allowed to have (such as a concealed handgun if they choose to get a permit), it is also good enough.

And when it comes to perfectly reasonable requests (like a change in company policy to allow concealed carry on the premises with a valid state permit), it is also good enough.



Cycloptichorn wrote:
For example, I've decided that I'd like a tank, three pipe bombs and a grenade launcher.


You should be able to get the tank no problem if you can afford it. No such luck on the pipe bombs. The grenade launcher will depend mostly on what state you live in.
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