RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 26 Sep, 2012 05:26 pm
@absos,
Sex like any other great powerful force requires control and moderation. Most anything can get taken to an extreme. Eating too much peanut butter, or being too religious and thinking that holy books are the only truth and answer is like sex-a-holic that is out of control... Too much religion is a perversion of common faith and religious freedom. In that instance one might refer to too much religion as evil too. Fanatic religion is at least equal to if not a greater evil than being over sexed... Perhaps radical religion is a compensation for sexual ineptness... The fear of God can be no more than a smoke screen for deeply seated sexual inhibitions. Religion is not a cure for unbridled sexuality it is just an extension of it. Unchecked emotions will surface sooner or later even when concealed by religious fervor.
aspvenom
 
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Reply Wed 26 Sep, 2012 06:22 pm
@RexRed,
Word on the street is absos is imans.
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 26 Sep, 2012 09:17 pm
@aspvenom,
aspvenom wrote:

Word on the street is absos is imans.


Thanks, it seemed that way but I thought it was his twin... Smile
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absos
 
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Reply Thu 27 Sep, 2012 11:37 am
@RexRed,
moderation wont get u to the point which is freedom
now the fact that u enjoy forces is ur business not that sex as force is right

u should know i guess that sex as a force is exclusively by getting to the extreme so givin the freedom sense it means to lead to, which is evil freedom sense that get to b free by reachin the opposite to step upon as if u kill all by any opposite done
there is no opposite in truth it is a creation of ways from knowing the truth being freedom
all those genders and oppositions are creations that u enjoy in meaning to take advantage from truth as existence knowledge while meaning to fake existing or being also truly free
but what is to creations is always nothing bc it is surely against what is right already existing in terms of all being absolute right same
absos
 
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Reply Thu 27 Sep, 2012 11:41 am
@absos,
while u should know also i guess that contrary to what u claim, religious people are for sex a lot bc they love god while god in all religions preach for sex
as even jesus is known to b the sexy figure that sexually free women fall at its feet for what he is more sexy then her free sexuality, he becomes the love inspiration of sexual freedom for another free sexual superiority
while for islam it is clear too n judaism of course
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 12:52 am
@absos,
absos wrote:

while u should know also i guess that contrary to what u claim, religious people are for sex a lot bc they love god while god in all religions preach for sex
as even jesus is known to b the sexy figure that sexually free women fall at its feet for what he is more sexy then her free sexuality, he becomes the love inspiration of sexual freedom for another free sexual superiority
while for islam it is clear too n judaism of course


I do not personally agree with sexual promiscuity for religious or non religious. I believe in mutual love with sex. Love with sex is a holy union between adults of either or the same gender... Sex without love is not only dangerous, against the spirit of life but also self serving. Although I do weigh promiscuity in the balance of other people's right to freedom, personal choice and liberty yet I do not personally live promiscuous. I would rather not be sexual than be used for someone's instant gratification.
Mockingclown
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 06:17 am
@RexRed,
Upon reading your previous posts you come of as an atheist, so how it possible for you to believe something is holy? It would make more sense for you to say something is good or bad upon your perspective. It clearly suggests you were religious at one time, which is fine.
So for an atheist like you, what characteristics constitutes holy?
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 06:23 am
@Mockingclown,
Mockingclown wrote:

Upon reading your previous posts you come of as an atheist, so how it possible for you to believe something is holy? It would make more sense for you to say something is good or bad upon your perspective. It clearly suggests you were religious at one time, which is fine.
So for an atheist like you, what characteristics constitutes holy?


I am ordained clergy who at some point reverted to an agnostic... Some days it is holy some days it is simply good or better... I fluctuate from time to time in the middle ground of faith and unbelief. Smile
absos
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 12:56 pm
@RexRed,
u clearly mean to justify ur arguments about sex from cliches, which kill the idea of advocatin sexuality
believing in love with sex doesnt mean anything about sex, actually when u clearly are separatin love from sex, then what is sex when it is not love

noone cares about ur positions in all opinions, sayin i believe this and this about that open wide the door to infinite different voices askin for equal rights in standin too in all opinions
and philosophy forums are not the right place for that

takin advantage of chaos advantages is logical free reaction but forcin chaos on what is real so clear is not logical and all to edge of chaos
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 01:42 pm
@RexRed,
If you ask me, I say the term holy has to do (for me at least) not with any domain of things supernatural. With things devine perhaps, in so far as that refers to values: I can value something so highly that I consider it "devine." But usually I use the term "holy" to denote the wholeness (or completeness and fullness) of something; it has to do with spiritual HEALTH, and this too has nothing to do with supernaturalism.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 02:24 pm
@JLNobody,
Holy cow! Sorry, couldn't resist; the devil made me do it. Mr. Green
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 03:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Holy cow! Sorry, couldn't resist; the devil made me do it. Mr. Green


We may never know why things are as such. To deny something true doesn't make it any less true than to believe something that may very well be false. I consider it is the act of certainty that leads to tyranny... Why are people born with deformities? Do we blame their parents (sins of the fathers) or do we blame those unfortunates and say it was your past life you are atoning for or do we blame the devil who many lurk in some form or another in the details?

Humans have been contemplating fate since the first human touched fire and burnt their hand. Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 28 Sep, 2012 03:54 pm
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:

If you ask me, I say the term holy has to do (for me at least) not with any domain of things supernatural. With things devine perhaps, in so far as that refers to values: I can value something so highly that I consider it "devine." But usually I use the term "holy" to denote the wholeness (or completeness and fullness) of something; it has to do with spiritual HEALTH, and this too has nothing to do with supernaturalism.


I have heard holy defined such that there are two paths or ways. A way that leads toward holiness and a way that leads towards a premature death. One might think of Buddha as having obtained holiness or some call it illustriousness. Buddha advocated the suppression of passions and unbridled desires. It is reaching a place where one achieves a balance between chaos and order.

This reflects back to my point that promiscuity, to me, represents chaos and a loving monogamous relationship represents order. No relationship at all can be a way to holiness also, referred to as the gift of celibacy. I don't believe that sexual preference in a monogamous relationship factors into longevity of life. I do believe that promiscuity can take its toll on life irrespective of sexual preference. There are always exceptions but not as a general rule.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 29 Sep, 2012 03:55 am
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 29 Sep, 2012 05:21 am
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absos
 
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Reply Sat 29 Sep, 2012 10:37 am
holy literally is h o l y, the 4 letters of wonders, h for breedin without present
o for perceiving without object, l for pointin without existing stand, n y for movin without being

in truth the word holy is the epsilon abstraction conceived as nothing but absolute superiority that is why

again truth is absolute superiority which by existing is true relatively free

it is always present in the presence always of maximal freedom n minimal freedom that zero embody the most anywhere

RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 29 Sep, 2012 01:22 pm
@absos,
absos wrote:

holy literally is h o l y, the 4 letters of wonders, h for breedin without present
o for perceiving without object, l for pointin without existing stand, n y for movin without being

in truth the word holy is the epsilon abstraction conceived as nothing but absolute superiority that is why

again truth is absolute superiority which by existing is true relatively free

it is always present in the presence always of maximal freedom n minimal freedom that zero embody the most anywhere




Holiness is not still obedience and blind servitude but holiness is moving autonomy, it is a complex language of personal expressions and utterances just as life and freedom require the same autonomy.
absos
 
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Reply Sun 30 Sep, 2012 12:17 am
@RexRed,
it is funny how u keep sayin what u want only by using smthg or smone else

holiness is not a move nor a thing, i proved how literally holiness is nothing
since when nothing is obedience or still wat is still??? nothing exist as abstract constance logics base but that is all about nothing
absos
 
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Reply Sun 30 Sep, 2012 12:26 am
@absos,
as long as u dont admit that truth exist u would still with such nonsense till watever decide for u to die which is the regular thing happening from ever that existence was real

i said absolute superiority is the truth by clearly meaning that holiness is a lie, that u must look at any as it is real and how the fact that superiority is the truth so any is superior reality as the secret of superior sensical perspective u feel, but there is no holy when clearly now truth which is the reason of such sense the maximal superiority is showing being **** compared to rights as being the truth n surely the first truth so the past truth was about no holy at all when superiority was clearly perceived from objective very nothing intelligent move
RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Sep, 2012 06:15 am
@absos,
absos wrote:

as long as u dont admit that truth exist u would still with such nonsense till watever decide for u to die which is the regular thing happening from ever that existence was real

i said absolute superiority is the truth by clearly meaning that holiness is a lie, that u must look at any as it is real and how the fact that superiority is the truth so any is superior reality as the secret of superior sensical perspective u feel, but there is no holy when clearly now truth which is the reason of such sense the maximal superiority is showing being **** compared to rights as being the truth n surely the first truth so the past truth was about no holy at all when superiority was clearly perceived from objective very nothing intelligent move


One person's truth is another person's refuse. Who is to judge you?...books? ..or your own heart? The truth comes from within you, not someone else pretending to be god. What we define as holy depends upon our own personal perspective not the perspective of another person's idea of holiness. To not fulfill our own personal way is to deny a talent and a specialization of character. We need to not just be but also grow into what we are. The definition of purpose is having a stake in life so as to peruse our own meaningful existence...
 

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