Damn you Walmart!!!

I don't remember who said it (it was a few pages back), but someone mentioned that Wal-Mart won't sell the "morning-after" pill. I find that stance deplorable, but I believe that a company has the right to sell or not sell what it wants. If a person needs that medication, she goes somewhere else where she can get it. IMO, the appropriate reaction of a community who wants the "morning after pill" would be a boycott (preferably loud) at the store.

I worked for an organization whose health insurance plans did not include coverage for abortions, because of their religious stance. There were also other issues that I was faced with concerning what I could and could not do with clients with respect to abortions. At one point I thought long and hard about leaving my job on account of these restrictions. My final decision was that I could do a lot of good despite the restrictions, and I chose to stay. (I also found ways to "get around" certain issues :wink: )

The point is that people always have choices, and no one is ENTITLED to have things done the way that they want, just because they want it.

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

Since I've been to US pharmacies now, I must say that German pharmacies are pharmy-cies and not warehouses.

Thus, there's no waiting line, you get your prescription seconds after you wanted it ... But if you really had to pay for the medication by yourslef (which you don't since it done by the insurance company), the US is - in general - cheaper.

Since you aren't a pharmacist nor a pharmacologist, I doubt that you've visted all US pharmacies. There's nothing in Germany, that can compare to our VA pharmacies, unless of course the ones we're talking about are on US Army bases in Germany.

I personally dont' know of any outstanding developments in pharmaceutics that have been historically developed in Germany.
France, yes...Germany no.

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Phoenix32890 wrote:

The point is that people always have choices, and no one is ENTITLED to have things done the way that they want, just because they want it.

Amen!

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It's still cheaper to buy most generic drugs from Canada!

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Phoenix32890 wrote:

I don't remember who said it (it was a few pages back), but someone mentioned that Wal-Mart won't sell the "morning-after" pill. I find that stance deplorable, but I believe that a company has the right to sell or not sell what it wants. If a person needs that medication, she goes somewhere else where she can get it. IMO, the appropriate reaction of a community who wants the "morning after pill" would be a boycott (preferably loud) at the store.

I worked for an organization whose health insurance plans did not include coverage for abortions, because of their religious stance. There were also other issues that I was faced with concerning what I could and could not do with clients with respect to abortions. At one point I thought long and hard about leaving my job on account of these restrictions. My final decision was that I could do a lot of good despite the restrictions, and I chose to stay. (I also found ways to "get around" certain issues :wink: )

The point is that people always have choices, and no one is ENTITLED to have things done the way that they want, just because they want it.

Court rulings have recently come down that allow pharmacists to use their own moral judgment when determineing whether to fill an Rx for the morning-after pill.

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NickFun wrote:

It's still cheaper to buy most generic drugs from Canada!

Cheaper still are those from Israel.

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Of course you want to support your local, home owned businesses. I had a monthly prescription filled at one of the two local pharmacies for years. Every month, I took the empty bottle to work and called in the prescription by number. And every month, sure as the sun rises in the east, on two thirds of my attempts to pick it up at the promised time, it was still waiting to be filled. It is now on auto-fill at Walgreens. Sorry 'bout that.

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No need to be sorry, roger. Any business that doesn't grow with the times eventually dies.

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Squinney

squinney wrote:

291 drugs out of 65,000 ... Probably the cheapest generics to begin with. Not meaning to be a pessimist, but that's piddly by comparison to the fact that all those shoppers will be walking the aisles while waiting for their scripts to be filled.

Wal-Mart didn't become Wal-Mart by giving things away. I still hate seeing one go up in place of a Mom & Pop.

One again, you've proved what a smart man the Bear was to marry you.

BBB

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BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:

squinney wrote:
291 drugs out of 65,000 ... Probably the cheapest generics to begin with. Not meaning to be a pessimist, but that's piddly by comparison to the fact that all those shoppers will be walking the aisles while waiting for their scripts to be filled.

Wal-Mart didn't become Wal-Mart by giving things away. I still hate seeing one go up in place of a Mom & Pop.

One again, you've proved what a smart man the Bear was to marry you.

I'm not sure where you guys are shopping, but where I live, I am free to drop off my prescription and come back at a later date to pick it up once it is ready.

If I do decide to stay and wait for it to be filled, there are no armed men patroling the store forcing me to buy anything. Of course, anyone who is even slightly efficient with their time, would plan their re-fills to coincide with a shopping trip and pick up needed items as the prescription is being filled and find the whole experience quite convenient.

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squinney wrote:

291 drugs out of 65,000 ... Probably the cheapest generics to begin with. Not meaning to be a pessimist, but that's piddly by comparison to the fact that all those shoppers will be walking the aisles while waiting for their scripts to be filled.

That is not being pessimistic. Wal-Mart is not in the charitable business. Their aim to to enhance their bottom line. If customers like what the company has to offer, they will patronize the store. If they don't like the store, they won't. It is as simple as that.

I am really amazed at the animosity that is constantly being hurled at Wal-Mart on this forum. Personally, I think that it is a great store.....................for some things. For instance, I would seldom buy clothing at Wal-Mart, but I buy other things. I love the convenience of being able to buy a great variety of items in one place.

As far as how Wal-Mart allegedly treats its staff, no one is forced to work there.

Another thing that really distresses me is how there are many people who simply cannot deal favorably with a person or company who is a huge success.

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Amen again!

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Walmart also has great deals on Chinese made items!

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I think it's funny that the people seem to think that mom and pop shops are always ethical and righteous. I know a few that are the rip-off kings of the world.

Conversely, a lot of McDonalds and other hated places are in fact, mom and pop shops - franchises, in other words. Many of the people who own them are nice people who sincerely care about their staff and they take a daily interest in their business.

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Miller wrote:

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I personally dont' know of any outstanding developments in pharmaceutics that have been historically developed in Germany.

You might start with Bayer Aspirin in the 1890's.

Miller wrote:

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Court rulings have recently come down that allow pharmacists to use their own moral judgment when determineing whether to fill an Rx for the morning-after pill.

Not to pick on you, kiddo, but time marchs on:Morning After Pill now available without a Prescription.

And I can find several Corporations (Target, Walgreen's, Wal-Mart) whose internal rules allow for a pharmacist not to fill a prescription on moral or religious grounds, but the company policies also insist that the Doctor's prescription be passed on to and filled by another pharmacist. Also several States have passed legislation regarding this issue, but I can't find a Court Ruling supporting those laws. I think they violate the
Griswold v. Connecticut 1965 decision and would be struck down upon Supreme Court review. Yes, even this present Court.

And how long can that list be for a Pharmacist? How about birth control pills or patchs? No Viagra? No Condoms? Can a Pharmacist refuse to fill a prescription for anti-Acne medicine on the grounds that the enhanced physical beauty of the user might lead to sexual activity? Can a Muslim Pharmacist refuse to fill a prescription for Christians on the grounds that they are unbelievers? How about the reverse?

Joe(Okay, back to bashing WallyWorld)Nation

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boomerang wrote:

I think it's funny that the people seem to think that mom and pop shops are always ethical and righteous. I know a few that are the rip-off kings of the world.

I agree. But the differences between individual mom-and-pop shops are much greater than the difference between individual Wal-Mart stores and McDonald's restaurants. That makes it easy for do-gooders to collectively demonize big chains, but hard for them to do it with mom-and-pop shops.

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Thomas wrote:

But the differences between individual mom-and-pop shops are much greater than the difference between individual Wal-Mart stores and McDonald's restaurants. That makes it easy for do-gooders to collectively demonize big chains, but hard for them to do it with mom-and-pop shops.

Exactly. I grew up dealing with a number of mom and pop stores that were complete rip offs.

I would suspect that there are very few businessess that are completely eithical and honest. I think that it is human nature, in general to cut corners once in awhile. I know that I am overgeneralizing, but I think that you get my point.

Somehow the "Norman Rockwell" sort of owner run store has become some kind of emotional icon in the hearts of many people. It is comfortable. It is the sort of place where everyone knew everybody, and nothing really changed, from year to year. The clerk that worked there often did not get any more than a barely living wage, but it WAS better for the unskilled than working in a factory.

The large chains have brought in innovation, variety, and all different kinds of work schedules that can suit students, working mothers, and retirees. They also brought innovation and efficiency to the market place.
They allowed financially strapped people to purchase items that would be otherwise out of their reach.

Personally, I think that the Wal-Marts and their ilk have added far more positive than negative factors to our communities, and we should be grateful to the forward thinking innovators who had a vision and followed it.

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One time I went to the self check-out at Walmart. I thought I checked all my items but upon arriving home I realized I did not pay for a $3.00 paint brush. Looking at the incredibly long line and the amount of money that store made in a day I felt no remorse and did not go back to pay for the item. I would not have done that at a Mom and Pop. Walmart has corrupted me.

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You also probably wouldn't find a $3 paint brush at a mom and pop.

Oh... and stealng was a decision you made on your own. Walmart had nothing to do with it.

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Miller wrote:

Since you aren't a pharmacist nor a pharmacologist, I doubt that you've visted all US pharmacies. There's nothing in Germany, that can compare to our VA pharmacies, unless of course the ones we're talking about are on US Army bases in Germany.

I personally dont' know of any outstanding developments in pharmaceutics that have been historically developed in Germany.
France, yes...Germany no.

No, I'm neither a pharmacist nor a pharmacolist. I been to more than a couple of pharmacies in the USA.

But I come from a family with on one side a long tradition in that field and a father, who as a medical doctor made some dozens of pharmaceutical studies in his clinic.

Regarding your second part of above - additionally to what Joe Nation mentioned ... I kindly suggest to have a look at some books about the history of pharmacy in your library: you will be surprised, I suppose.

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