mysteryman wrote:If Iraq becomes a stable,functioning democracy in the future,because of the actions taken by the US,will you still say Bush was a failure,or will you suddenly decide that you supported him all along?
Interesting enough, this whole plan to "democratize" Iraq was never mentioned in Powell's speech before the United Nations. There was a lot about chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, and ties to terrorism. But no word about bringing democracy to Iraq.
Saying that it was Bush's declared goal to bring democracy to the Iraqi people somehow denies all the rhetoric about mushroom clouds and the "area north, south, east and west of Baghdad" where all the purported WMD were hidden, or the polls that showed that in America's opinion, the war was to pre-empt a coming attack from Iraq or to topple a supporter of the 9/11 terrorists rather than to free the Iraqi people.
I haven't called him a "failure", but I will continue to blame him for misleading America into war. I wouldn't call him a "moron", either. I takes quite some skill to mislead nigh to 300 million people.
mysteryman wrote:Also,some of you are saying that Iraq never attacked us.
If I can prove you wrong,and it wont be hard to do,will you admit it,or will you still deny it?
No, I don't deny that. Iraq attacked America much in the same way that America attacked Chile, Nicaragua or El Salvador. Does that mean that those nations now have the right (given the ability to actually do so) to invade the United States, topple the government, occupy the country and put a new pro-(fill in country) government into power?
mysteryman wrote:Just off the top of my head,I can find an instance of the Iraqi AF attacking US Navy ships,without provocation.
The ship was the USS Stark,and it happened May 17,1987.
So,we now have PROOF that Iraq did attack us,no matter what some of you want to believe.
37 US Sailors died and 21 were injured.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_%28FFG-31%29
There are other examples,but the claim that Iraq NEVER attacked us has just been proven false.
Right. So Iraq attacked a US Navy ship. You forgot to mention that this incident took place during the Iraq-Iran war, at a time when the United States were still supplying Iraq with WMD for use on the Iranians.
It took place
three years before the first Gulf War. Are you saying this incident somehow justified an invasion 16 years later? Say, mysteryman, when should America go to war again against Britain, for their Burning of Washington?
