Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread III

There is Foxy.

Everybody gets a free service and the waiting list problem provides the funding for the impatient. Emergencies excepted under the provisions of the Hippocratic oath.

very high taxes, the responsible taxpayer pays for both himself and also Citizen B who is quite happy to have everybody else provide his health care without him having to do anything for it even when he is capable of contributing to it.

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very high taxes, the responsible taxpayer pays for both himself and also Citizen B who is quite happy to have everybody else provide his health care without him having to do anything for it even when he is capable of contributing to it.

As I noted earlier, how odd it is then that those jurisdictions which have government health care do not evidence widespread or significant unhappiness with such unfair/unjust programs.

blatham, Your wasting your shouting to people that refuses to acknowledge all the facts present to the rest of the world; that the sectarian violence in Iraq is beyond our control - and getting worse.

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very high taxes, the responsible taxpayer pays for both himself and also Citizen B who is quite happy to have everybody else provide his health care without him having to do anything for it even when he is capable of contributing to it.

As I noted earlier, how odd it is then that those jurisdictions which have government health care do not evidence widespread or significant unhappiness with such unfair/unjust programs.

Any of them have the same level of freedom, economic power, population or land mass?

and god damn it...everyone note this and remember it, for christ's sake...

For years now, the debate has raged: Does the press overstate the level of violence in Iraq and ignore the overall positive aspect of the U.S. involvement? The Iraq Study Group report today, in its main claim that the situation in Iraq is now "grave" and "deteriorating" would seem to offer a clue to the answer, but more specific details -- providing a "slam dunk" (if we may use that phrase) on the side of the press -- are found in the Intelligence section of the report. [...] There we learn, bluntly, that "there is significant underreporting of the violence in Iraq" by the U.S. military. "The standard for recording attacks acts as a filter to keep events out of reports and databases," the report continues. Looking at one day, the report found undercounting of violent attacks by more than 1000 percent. http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003493869

McGentrix wrote:

blatham wrote:

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very high taxes, the responsible taxpayer pays for both himself and also Citizen B who is quite happy to have everybody else provide his health care without him having to do anything for it even when he is capable of contributing to it.

As I noted earlier, how odd it is then that those jurisdictions which have government health care do not evidence widespread or significant unhappiness with such unfair/unjust programs.

Any of them have the same level of freedom, economic power, population or land mass?

How is it you consider such factors relevant to the rhetorical question?

blatham wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

blatham wrote:

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very high taxes, the responsible taxpayer pays for both himself and also Citizen B who is quite happy to have everybody else provide his health care without him having to do anything for it even when he is capable of contributing to it.

As I noted earlier, how odd it is then that those jurisdictions which have government health care do not evidence widespread or significant unhappiness with such unfair/unjust programs.

Any of them have the same level of freedom, economic power, population or land mass?

How is it you consider such factors relevant to the rhetorical question?

Well, you suggested those places that have government health care are not unhappy and I wondered if any of those areas were similar to America.

If we are going to compare healthcare in foreign lands with healthcare in America, then we should look at the demographics and economic impacts.

Canada has a land mass larger than the USA and a population of roughly 1/10th of the U.S. population. With just over three people per square kilometre (3.3 according to the 2001 Census), Canada has one of the lowest population densities in the world.

This is similar?

I wonder, do Norway and Luxemborg have nationally mandated health plans? These are the countries whose per capita income is comparable with or exceeds the USA. Canada's per capita income is about 3/4ths of the USAs per capita income.

The USA actually does provide government health care through Medicare, Medicaid, and its extensive VA and Champus programs. But USA citizens enjoy a unique freedom of being able to opt out of government programs and avail themselves of what many believe are far superior private services.

How many countries providing mandatory government healthcare programs also have good private programs available to most or all citizens?