fbaezer wrote:The legend was that the HitlerJúgend (sp?) converted entirely into the Communist Youth, and changed their shirts from brown to blue.
The point about the different ways in which West- and East-Germany "processed" the Nazi past 's been explored again quite a lot in Germany in the 90s, mostly in response to the way small-town East-German youth has flocked to the extreme-right/Nazi movements.
The obvious point is that, though the GDR branded itself the counter-Nazi state by definition at a time when, in the FRG, mid-level Nazis were quietly integrated into the system, it was in the FRG that the Nazi past ended up being exhaustively discussed, researched and questioned, a generation later. While in the GDR the rejection of the Nazi past remained of a manifesto-like sloganism, that could be shrugged off as easily as the rest of the system's paraphernalia by an increasingly alienated population. The really difficult questions of responsibility and guilt, cause and effect, individual and collective role, never got to be seriously fleshed out there. Its fair enough to say the East-Germans were hardly as thoroughly de-nazified as the West-Germans, notwithstanding all the rhetoric. (Walter, am I making sense?)
Wholly apart from how the Stasi literally
did 'adopt' a lot of former Nazi agents and youths, wholesale - they had just the right skills, after all.
<ahem>. I don't really know how all that fits in with your point. <blush>.
Oh yes, you were talking of why the Marxists chose to gloss over this episode. I don't think that held true for Germany itself, at all, for one - I mean, they
didnt, there, I think. (Walter?). But I get your overall point, though - I'd just juggle the examples a bit around, myself ->
fbaezer wrote:Reason number two was given here: both the Hungarian and Czech rebellions seemed to have accomplished something in the minds of these left wingers among which I dwelled: they "proved" to us that the people had libertarian goals, within Socialism; they "proved" that people wanted Socialism with a human face. The German uprising "proved" nothing.
I have to rely on what I read and what my parents told me, but as far as I know, the contrast here in Holland was more
between Hungary '56 and Prague '68. The Hungary uprising caused an uproar here (the offices of the Communist newspaper were attacked and beleaguered), and the Labour party, which at the time was very pro-American, joined in the fierce condemnation. But it wasnt much 'commemorated' by any of the New Left'ers of the sixties and seventies, at all, while Prague '68 was positively celebrated. The difference was exactly of the kind you describe, but only with Hungary '56 in the role where you put Berlin '53. In the Prague 68-ers, people like my parents saw kindred souls: pacifist idealists longing for a "socialism with a human face". The grim, desperate battle of the desperadoes taking a last (armed) stand in '56 Budapest, on the other hand, didnt fit in anything as nicely with their world view, and was buried in history a bit more. (And occassionally discredited with references to a suggested crypto-fascist/Horthyist revanchism about it, nothing of the like could be insinuated about '68).
But let's put the spotlight down the other way, too, though. Its not an uprising that seems to have elicited a great mass of passion or loyalty among right-wingers (outside Germany), for long, either - its not just the Marxists who can be said to have glossed over/forgotten Berlin '53 in a way that Budapest '56 or Prague '68 weren't. Is that, apart from the obvious reasons - it didnt last as long, wasnt as massive, didnt lead to any of the far-reaching government & policy changes Nagy and Dubcek personified - also because it was a workers' revolt? It initially focused on working conditions, workers' rights, and so on, after all, and steel workers marching into town to protest their harsh workloads may not be the kind of image a Reageanite heart will typically burn for ... ? <grins>
Of course the protestors quickly enough came with more farreaching demands (free elections etc). But with Budapest '56, sympathetic observers could, furthermore, also see a heroic fight for national independence, while the Polish resistance of the Eighties also involved the passion of Catholic religious conviction - causes
beyond liberal democracy itself that might make a conservative heart beat faster. Whereas Berlin '53 - any causes that could be associated with the revolt beyond democracy, per se - starting with reunification - would automatically have been a bit awkward for non-Germans to celebrate, no?