THE BRITISH THREAD

So far anyway. I'll mull it over.

The Brewers' Troupe.

Actually I like bucolic/historic pub names.

And, I don't like old traditional pub names being changed or tarted up.

Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.« - Mark Twain

Hey I just saw this elsewhere and thought I might offer it to miseryguts.

Are you totally stupid?[/quote]

Apparently sarcasm doesn't come across well in posts. You obviously didn't get it at all.

Hic spendius maximus.

That s better the frog and parrot

or the slug and lettuce

The Vomitorium.

Mac love-

Mr Twain is a dead loss.

Madame Lola once had a line of his for a signature. I think I explained it once.

It isn't worth it twice.

Maybe he's the one who kicked off this assertion problem.

What you quoted is most certainly an assertion. It grants me permission to say that travel contains the doom of the human race unless he claims that only his assertions are valid. Like Stalin and Hitler did.

In fact Goethe had an assertion like mine..

Twain strikes me as a literary castrato.

Guy Mitchell had a song about Christopher Columbus which contained the line "The United States ain't never been found..." which appealed to the young McTag.

You, Spendy, stand as a kind of antithesis to all that made Britain great.

But I don't buy your devil's advocate stance.

I had to search for ages to find:




CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS
(Terry Gilkyson)
Guy Mitchell

Also recorded by:

Terry Gilkyson.


(Let me fly, fly, fly stormy water
Let me walk on the bottom of the rolling sea
Let me run, run, run around this great and fertile land
'Cos this world ain't big enough for me)

Columbus say to the Spanish King
I'll let you in on a mighty fine thing
I aim to prove that the world is round
United States aint never been found;
(United States ain't never been found)

Now gimme ships, old Columbus say
I'll sail to China the shorter way
The king, he say This world is flat,
Sail too far and where you at

Let me fly, fly, fly stormy water
Let me walk on the bottom of the rollin' sea
(Let me run, run, run around this great and fertile land
'Cos this world ain't big enough for me, oh no)
The world ain't big enough for me

Now Queen Isabella, she gave heed
Said Go buy the ships you need
Take my jewels but travel slow
'Cos you might fall down to the world below...
(Might fall down to the world below)

Crew was a-yellin',Turn back home
We ain't ready for the Kingdom Come
Look-out hollered, Land I see,
Why there's the Statue of Liberty

Let me fly, fly, fly stormy water
Let me walk on the bottom of the rollin' sea
Oh, let me run, run, run around this great and fertile land
'Cos this world ain't big enough for me
(Oh no)
The world ain't big enough for me

Now all of the Indians come out then
To welcome Chris and the hungry men
Step right up and have a little bite
And the Rotary meets on Monday night
(Rotary meets on a Monday night)

Columbus sailed right home again
Ship load of gold for the Queen of Spain
King, he say, a-kickin' at the ground
Always know'd that the world was round

Let me fly, fly, fly stormy water
Let me walk on the bottom of the rollin' sea
(Let me run, run, run around this great and fertile land
'Cos this world ain't big enough for me Oh no)
The world ain't big enough for me.
The world Ain't big enough For me.

Mac wrote-



My CV rebuts that 100% but I'm not giving it for reasons I am unable to state.

But one thing the ignorant assertion does do is grant me the right to engage in similar tactics unless, of course, Mac has the exclusive right to use a one-way assertion megaphone.

So--just for demonstration purposes of course--You Mac, and all you stand for, are the most corrosive force at work in destroying Britishness and the song you quoted (This world ain't big enough for me) is entirely congruent with your position and your hat. Life as a ping-pong ball trailing excrement in its wake shouting "Me Me Me I must indulge my whims."

Gee- it's easy is this assertion shite. I bet anybody can do it. Even kids. The only problem is that it causes a breakdown in communication and general egomania and isolation. It is un-British to the core. I'm a Grade 1 on Mr Tebbit's Cricket Test.

Do you really think that saying-



is proof that I am a kind of antithesis to all that made Britain great. It's more like a way station on the route to thinking you are Napoleon.

Don't try wrapping yourself in a Union Jack Mac. It ill becomes you. You are talking to the wrong man on that score.

You are obviously happier in the United States of Assertion.

Britain lost its greatness before I was born.


This corner of the world I'm in is plenty big enough for me.

BTW- I would prefer it if you ceased to like me thank you very much.

Woha Mr Grumpy today Spendy?

I presume Steve from that that you are in favour of Mac punching at an opponent who has his hands tied behind his back.

His statement, a self-serving one, called into question my contribution to our society and I can wipe the floor with him on that score.

Do you expect me to let it lie on the file unanswered? When you throw a punch expect one back and if it's a good one you have no right of complaint. I'm no Jesus.

They always say that in fisticuff cases it is the winner who is in the dock.

Mac's travels don't seem to have had much effect on his prejudices, bigotry and narrow mindedness. And nor do they seem to have encouraged much in the way of a broad, wholesome, charitable view of men.

I'm a miseryguts for presenting our Government's (and Opposition's) general view which is that gratuitous travel is a no-no which it wasn't in Twain's day.

Of course, you travel yourself. Some women stuck out defiantly for fur coats for a while. Cuddled up to each other for comfort too as their numbers dwindled. Travel implies boredom and dissatisfaction with where you are. Obviously.

I beg to disagree. From my own experience (which in matter of travels is pretty extensive), it sometimes does and sometimes doesn't.

But maybe your statement applies only to the British...

On the contrary Francis, thank you!


Spendi is a strange, if not peculiar individual regarding travel, he could have sympathetic reasons, if he does, he keeps them well hidden and strikes out with absurdities regarding why we shouldn't


Most normal people enjoy travel, a holiday or business travel is usually beneficial to the mind and body alike, it broadens ones horizons and gives credence to universal friendship. The politicians make the barriers.


I'm afraid even I have to say that attempting to show the clown other people have the right to roam even if he is afraid to roam. It is akin to banging my head on a brick wall.

Have you visited many oriental countries Francis?

A pretty good lot!

Take a look here for the last one I visited

It's just out of date. Passe. Boring. A seeking to emulate the upper-class of yesteryear. Something to talk about for folk who have lost contact with reality. I'll swoon over your pics if you'll swoon over mine.
Lost sheep being herded through airports at gunpoint having their wallets pillaged. Pure escapism. Mac sees the Algonquin which he says he always wanted to see. So what?

Sapped by advertising. All advertising works over the boredom/low self esteem zone.

I can't see where the energy of motivation comes from to put up with all the negatives which are growing. As you will see.

The list of negatives is too long and well known to bother with here.

Google Travel Psychology /Micheal Brein and he's a traveller.


According to Voyages in China Europeans smell like corpses to the Chinese.

I LOVE New York. I was lucky enough to be able to visit in 2005 and have been longing for another trip ever since. I consider it my spiritual home.

x

spendius wrote



I've never thought of Mac as bigoted or narrow-minded. Everybody enjoys different things in life spendius, that's what makes us individual.

x

Aces Francis..


Hello Dorothy, how are you this fine wintry evening, it's my snooker night, they come around quickly as well! My nephew 'Big Jimbo' was on the phone earlier, he wants to fetch a mate of his around, to see if he be a fit and proper character to join the club!

Well the initiation ceremony consists of him being filmed wearing a divers mask and snorkel, a pair of black diver fins and nothing else!

He then has the undignified task of catching a chicken which will give him a good run around!

If he decides to go through with it, we aim to stick the video on U Tube.. I'll let you know.

Hey Spendi, do you want to join our club?

Wrong DP.

You are talking about conditioned neuroses. They are all different I agree.

Tolstoy said that all happy families are the same and all unhappy ones different from each other.


Mathos wrote-



Are you suggesting that only travel can do those things.

"Or again if we but climb the serried mountain peaks . . .

--Peaks, towering high on high, to bathe our souls, as it were . . .

--As 'twere, in the peerless panorama of Ireland's portfolio, unmatched,despite their wellpraised prototypes in other vaunted prize regions, for very beauty, of bosky grove and undulating plain and luscious pastureland of vernal green, steeped in the transcendent transluscent glow of our mild mysterious Irish twilight . . ."

"--The moon, professor MacHugh said. He forgot Hamlet.

--That mantles the vista far and wide till the glowing orb of the moon shines forth to irradiate her silver effulgence."

"--O! Mr Dedalus cried, giving vent to a hopeless groan, shite and onions! That'll do, Ned. Life is too short.

Ulysses--James Joyce.

That's more broadening of the horizons and beneficial to the mind and body than a wash and brush up, pedicure and massage in a Thai back street as far as I'm concerned and I don't have to get off the sofa for it.

There are so many millions travelling that it has no cachet anymore. It's as common as muck. Soon it will have negative cachet.

Look at them all beating their brains out to save up for a romantic week in Paris and Francis can't wait to flee the place. Something odd about that I think.

I never get tired of my books.