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Jesus Christ and Homosexuality.

 
 
RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 7 Aug, 2006 10:09 am
Lightwizard wrote:
The article did not back up your foolish statements and your attempts at humor are always lame.


Neither did your humor or lack of relative statements refute what I said.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 7 Aug, 2006 02:38 pm
Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 7 Aug, 2006 10:48 pm
1Pe 4:8
And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

1Co 13:8
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 7 Aug, 2006 10:58 pm
2Ti 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


Comment:
There is only one way to rightly divide the word. The rest is error.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 7 Aug, 2006 11:05 pm
Joh 18:37
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
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real life
 
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Reply Mon 7 Aug, 2006 11:25 pm
RexRed wrote:
real life wrote:
RexRed wrote:

All men start out as a woman in the womb... Then a slew of hormones develop the fetus into varying degrees of human sexuality.

All men have been a woman once....


This is incorrect.

From the moment of conception, the unborn is male or female depending on whether they have an XY combination of chromsomes , or not.

This is not something that happens during the 9 months gestation. It is a done deal from fertilization.

RexRed wrote:
Mary was about 14 when God impregnated her.


There is no evidence to support this.


It seems to me that Dr Shors is badly misrepresented in the article that is cited.

The structure and wording of the paragraph make it seem that the entire paragraph

in The Economist, someone wrote:


is her statement, or at least, her sentiments.

However, numerous sources render the quote this way:

Quote:
"Males and females look different, we act different, so of course our brains are different," said Tracey J. Shors, co-author and a professor of psychology at the Center for Collaborative Neuroscience at Rutgers: the State University of New Jersey. "There are remarkable differences. People used to think of females as a male with hormones. That's just not the case."
see http://www.worldhealth.net/p/growth-hormone-is-made-in-the-brain-report-scientists-2006-05-02.html

or http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=tracey%20shors%20male%20with%20hormones%20&kgs=1&kls=0&stq=10

What this means is that this portion of the paragraph:

Quote:


is not accurately attributable to Dr Shors, but the (unnamed) author(s) of the article make it appear so.

Indeed the list of references provided with the story here:

http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=7245984

includes NOTHING written by Dr Shors at all. Very interesting considering that Dr Shors is the very first expert in the field that is 'quoted' in the article. (I use the word loosely.)
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 8 Aug, 2006 12:04 am
Re 21:27
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Tue 8 Aug, 2006 06:31 am
real life wrote:
This is incorrect.

From the moment of conception, the unborn is male or female depending on whether they have an XY combination of chromsomes , or not.


I think he meant in terms of genitalia, in which case he would be correct. Every man used to have female genitalia. However, knowing RexRed, I think the case is as follows:

He heard or saw somewhere that all males in the womb, at one point used to have female genitalia.

The mind thought as follows:

Genitalia defines sex. Therefore, all men used to be women.

QED
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 8 Aug, 2006 08:29 am
The statement is even semantically incorrect. We are not born as men and women (that would really hurt in Mom's womb, especially if we had shoes), we are born as future men or women. Or, if wired differently, we mature as gay men or gay women.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 8 Aug, 2006 08:43 am
Wolf_ODonnell wrote:
real life wrote:
This is incorrect.

From the moment of conception, the unborn is male or female depending on whether they have an XY combination of chromsomes , or not.


I think he meant in terms of genitalia, in which case he would be correct. Every man used to have female genitalia. However, knowing RexRed, I think the case is as follows:

He heard or saw somewhere that all males in the womb, at one point used to have female genitalia.

The mind thought as follows:

Genitalia defines sex. Therefore, all men used to be women.

QED


People can be born with male genitalia and still be XX. I wonder if people are aware that some individuals can have two or more DNA profiles in one body?

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bradbuck/Sexes.htm

http://www.t-vox.org/index.php/Transgender

Excerpt from T-VOX:

1. Genetic sex: (XY, XX, XYY, XXY, etc.). This category is purely genetic. There exist also people with more than 3 sex chromosomes.
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real life
 
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Reply Tue 8 Aug, 2006 09:17 am
Wolf_ODonnell wrote:
real life wrote:
This is incorrect.

From the moment of conception, the unborn is male or female depending on whether they have an XY combination of chromsomes , or not.


I think he meant in terms of genitalia, in which case he would be correct. Every man used to have female genitalia.....


This is incorrect.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 8 Aug, 2006 09:28 am
All embryos are identical in external appearance for the first eight weeks of gestation, and then several factors nudge the infant toward male or female development. In the seventh week, the embryo has both male and female primordial ducts. In the normal female fetus, the millerian duct system then develops into oviducts and a uterus. In the normal male fetus, the wolferian duct system on each side develops into the epididymis and vas deferens.


http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-28,GGLG:en&q=unborn+males+used+to+have+female+genitalia

Primordial ducts are not genitalia.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 8 Aug, 2006 09:44 am
Humans were all once hermaphrodites of sorts. Our sexual configuration is the product of sex chromosomes passed on by our parents. Because females have only X sex chromosomes, we can receive only an X from our mothers; we can receive an X or a Y from our fathers because males carry both kinds. If we get two Xs, we become XX genotypical females; if we get an X and a Y, we become XY genotypical males. It is the Y chromosome that determines human sex. The "basic" human is female; it is not the presence of two Xs that makes a female, but rather the absence of the Y chromosome. Sometimes children are born with several X chromosomes, such as the XXX, XXY, or even XXXXY patterns. Although the X chromosome carries far more genetic information than the Y, no matter how many X "units" of femaleness the fetus has, the presence of a single Y results in the male pattern of sexual differentiation. The extra Xs, however, do affect development, since it is characterized by hypogonadism As discussed below, individuals with the extra Xs are classified as having Klinefelter syndrome. The single exception to this male differentiation by possessors of a Y chromosome is the XY genotype with androgen-insensitivity syndrome.

http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/ARCHIV/SEN/CH12.HTM#b2-HERMAPHRODITES

In 1942, Dr. Harry Klinefelter and his coworkers at the Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston published a report about nine men who had enlarged breasts, sparse facial and body hair, small testes, and an inability to produce sperm.

By the late 1950s, researchers discovered that men with Klinefelter syndrome, as this group of symptoms came to be called, had an extra sex chromosome, XXY instead of the usual male arrangement, XY.

http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/klinefelter.htm
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 8 Aug, 2006 11:16 am
Was Jesus wrong about "devil spirits"?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 8 Aug, 2006 02:53 pm
Nu 12:3
(Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 02:10 am
"I thirst..."
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 08:26 am
RexRed wrote:
"I thirst..."

Thanks for sharing.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 08:48 am
I thirst for more of that wine Jesus and his disciples were getting buzzed on. It certainly wasn't from Napa Valley, or Santa Ynez.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 12:33 pm
Lightwizard wrote:
I thirst for more of that wine Jesus and his disciples were getting buzzed on. It certainly wasn't from Napa Valley, or Santa Ynez.


Lu 6:44
For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. :wink:
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 01:13 pm
RexRed wrote:
Lu 6:44
For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. :wink:

The New Testament, aka Horticulture for Dummies.
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