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echi
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 01:33 pm
Is it incorrect to understand the word 'spirit' to mean something like 'lesson' or 'knowledge'?


RexRed wrote:

You may be confusing the "false" consciousness of the old person (in the mind) with the "true" consciousness/conscience of the new person.

What happened to the old RexRed?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 03:29 pm
echi wrote:
Is it incorrect to understand the word 'spirit' to mean something like 'lesson' or 'knowledge'?


RexRed wrote:

You may be confusing the "false" consciousness of the old person (in the mind) with the "true" consciousness/conscience of the new person.

What happened to the old RexRed?


It is like a glass of "really" murky water. Smile

When you pour fresh clean water from a fountain into the glass it begins to overflow. The murky water is replaced over time by the fresh water. Yet there may always be some particle of the old murky water still left in the glass.

Only the miracle of God can erase the past, this miracle is available for those who believe to move mountains.

The mind is the glass of water and God is the fountain of the spirit. In time the spirit builds within the mind and the old rex fades into science as the the new rex transcends into eternity.
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echi
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 03:47 pm
All right. So, is the mind the glass? Is it the water? Or is it the other matter mixed in with the water?

And why can't "holy spirit" be understood as "knowledge from God"?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 04:00 pm
echi wrote:
All right. So, is the mind the glass? Is it the water? Or is it the other matter mixed in with the water?

And why can't "holy spirit" be understood as "knowledge from God"?


Science cannot know God/spirit because God is not physical...

Matter is physical (flesh), "the water" (in the analogy) is spiritual.
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echi
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 05:01 pm
RexRed wrote:
Science cannot know God/spirit because God is not physical...

Matter is physical (flesh), "the water" (in the analogy) is spiritual.


I am not suggesting that science can know God. I'm asking about the way this (God/spirit) is received, recognized and utilized by a physical person.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 12:39 pm
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Science cannot know God/spirit because God is not physical...

Matter is physical (flesh), "the water" (in the analogy) is spiritual.


I am not suggesting that science can know God. I'm asking about the way this (God/spirit) is received, recognized and utilized by a physical person.


How does a glass hold water, how does it receive the water and it how is it utilized?

Smile

Once the way of the spirit is understood much is changed in the mind through deduction and renewing of thought.
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echi
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 10:08 pm
RexRed wrote:

Science cannot know God/spirit because God is not physical...

Matter is physical (flesh), "the water" (in the analogy) is spiritual.



There is no real difference between 'physical' and 'spiritual'.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 11:45 pm
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:

Science cannot know God/spirit because God is not physical...

Matter is physical (flesh), "the water" (in the analogy) is spiritual.



There is no real difference between 'physical' and 'spiritual'.


The physical is creation and the spiritual is creator.

The physical cannot create, only creation itself can create.
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echi
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 12:02 am
RexRed wrote:
The physical is creation and the spiritual is creator.

The physical cannot create, only creation itself can create.


"Physical" "Spiritual" "Creation"

These words have no real meaning.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 12:22 am
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
The physical is creation and the spiritual is creator.

The physical cannot create, only creation itself can create.


"Physical" "Spiritual" "Creation"

These words have no real meaning.


physical = earth

spiritual = heaven
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echi
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 12:29 am
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
The physical is creation and the spiritual is creator.

The physical cannot create, only creation itself can create.


"Physical" "Spiritual" "Creation"

These words have no real meaning.


physical = earth

spiritual = heaven


Okay.

Add to the list, "earth" and "heaven".


Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 01:42 am
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
The physical is creation and the spiritual is creator.

The physical cannot create, only creation itself can create.


"Physical" "Spiritual" "Creation"

These words have no real meaning.


physical = earth

spiritual = heaven


Okay.

Add to the list, "earth" and "heaven".


Smile


The spirit animates the physical the same way the word animates the mind.
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echi
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 01:57 pm
That just doesn't make sense.

There is no reason to consider the existence of these different, separate elements. That's why you haven't been able to give a true definition for any of them.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2006 11:54 am
echi wrote:
That just doesn't make sense.

There is no reason to consider the existence of these different, separate elements. That's why you haven't been able to give a true definition for any of them.


Body = formed (from the dust of the ground.)
Soul = made (breath life "made a living soul".)
Spirit = created (in God's own image.)

Isaiah 43:7
Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

1Th 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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echi
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2006 03:57 pm
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
There is no reason to consider the existence of these different, separate elements. That's why you haven't been able to give a true definition for any of them.


Body = formed (from the dust of the ground.)
Soul = made (breath life "made a living soul".)
Spirit = created (in God's own image.)

Isaiah 43:7
Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

1Th 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

How does this relate to my comment? You still have not presented any reason.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2006 05:34 pm
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
There is no reason to consider the existence of these different, separate elements. That's why you haven't been able to give a true definition for any of them.


Body = formed (from the dust of the ground.)
Soul = made (breath life "made a living soul".)
Spirit = created (in God's own image.)

Isaiah 43:7
Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

1Th 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

How does this relate to my comment? You still have not presented any reason.


I have more reason than science has.

Science can only understand what is measurable and observable through the five senses.

This in itself defines the immeasurable.

Just because science does not know what makes a bunch of random chemicals in DNA "alive" does not mean that life as an element does not exist. Thusly spirit as a non element can also be plausible under the same logic.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2006 05:36 pm
jesus is hot and available, (Mary told me)
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2006 05:51 pm
dyslexia wrote:
jesus is hot and available, (Mary told me)


Dys, you seem to "without conscience" portray others as shallow and trashy (mirror). Scholars more learned than I say that people only put others down to make themselves look and feel better, it is buried insecurities due to "low self esteem"...
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2006 05:57 pm
RexRed wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
jesus is hot and available, (Mary told me)


Dys, you seem to "without conscience" portray others as shallow and trashy (mirror). Scholars more learned than I say that people only put others down to make themselves look and feel better, it is buried insecurities due to "low self esteem"...
Yes, exactly, I have low self esteem.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2006 05:58 pm
and Mr red my friends call me dys, you may call me dyslexia.
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