Jesus Christ and Homosexuality.

Jesus Christ and Homosexuality
Well done, Kate4Christ. Your discussion was biblically sound. Your unwillingness to continue with Rex showed great wisdom. Nice going!

Jesus Christ and Homosexuality
PS. Over and over in scripture we read where sexual immorality is sinful. We read in Romans 1 where God left the people and they turned
to homosexuality and destroyed their standing with Him and with each other. The story of Sodom and the references about it in the N/T further
illustrate God's opinion toward sexual sin.
We also read where sexual immorality is serious because it is a sin against the temple of the Holy Spirit ( our body ). It's a sin we don't
commit alone, we drag others into it.
When one asserts that scripture isn't clear on this matter, they illustrate how very much they need to sincerely read the Bible and not only pull out a passage here and there to support their opinions.
The Bible is clear on this topic.

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Galatians 5:20



19The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God

Welcome to the forum, tooold. Rex is a pretty good guy at heart. He just wants to eat at two tables at the same time.

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According to the Bible there are TWO Gods..... "the god of this world" or false God (law/flesh) and the one true God (liberty and spirit).

THE DEVIL IS A GOD.... (according to the Bible)

Adam gave the devil this power over the world. (Through knowledge of good and evil comes LAW.....) Law led to the original sin for without law there is no sin. The devil imposed guilt from law upon them. Well meaning people are doing the same today to homosexuals and people who do not fit their own standards of law.

Apparently some have denied Christ Jesus for idolatry (GOD/MAN Jesus Christ is not God.) too and they worship the same God of law through this trinity.

Lucifer is the GOD (theos) of this world and the God of law (not faith). Apparently you both need to read the Bible instead of your pamphlets that teach hate and division. The old testament men and women were reckoned righteous by faith not by law.

Have you even considered once that you might be wrong and I (a humble homosexual before God) might be right? I have considered I might be wrong but the word confirms clearly I am right. (BTW Kate I already knew you were quoting Paul) Paul is not a contradiction but he uses words cleverly to make implications that he dose not always solidify with literal words.

Except...... when he says, "there is neither male nor female" but all are one in Christ Jesus.

So am I a male or a female in God's eyes? (YOU ARE NOT READING THE WORD WITH UNDERSTANDING REASON)

2Co 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded [law] the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Comment:
The God of this world.. this is the "god" of law and flesh.

This God has blinded well meaning people minds from the glorious gospel of Christ for the law instead.

This law was fulfilled in Christ Jesus but it seems they are trying to fulfill it again today also anyway. So Christ Jesus' works were not enough to free us from sin?

By faith alone.....

Peace with God and yourself.

Our disagreements should not come before the love we have toward one another.

Hell, I'm the chef!

I've already eaten.

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What is that, a literal translation according to whom?

I still don't see "homosexuality" listed there. Even heterosexuals can commit sexual immorality.

No one inherits the kingdom of God... we inherit the kingdom of heaven with Christ.

Ro 8:2
For the law of the Spirit [liberty] of life [true God] in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death [false God].

Comment:
You should all be concerned about sticking up for the "God" of law.

You are not walking in the image of God or Christ. You are glorifying sin consciousness over faith consciousness.

You have the wrong God...

Either you have the right God inside and you minds are confused or you have actually received the spirit of Cain.

The spirit of Cain makes one one of the "children of disobedience"

Cain was ruled by law and not liberty.

It was the vegetarian who killed the carnivore.

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Thanks , Neologist. Didn't take long to see what he's about.

Jer 15:16
Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.

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Please explain rather than talking indirectly at me...

...and what are you all about?

This all simply distracts from what I have said... either argue back with the very scriptures you profess to know or keep peace in the face of folly.

I have reasoned with clergy all my life. I have compared what they know with what I know and they often pull the same distractions and then leave no real biblical scriptural rebuttal.

I understand why the distractions... because most need to be able to back off and look at this all from their own perspectives.

I understand that too, but once you have really considered all of this please support your possible opposition with reason and the very scriptures that your own faith is "supposedly" based upon.

Jesus Christ was probably a homosexual in nature... YET, he (out of love) followed the law to save other homosexuals (an "sinners") from the law. Even though he followed the law and walked perfectly in ALL of "the Lords" ways, the "religious" people of the law, their good old buddies and the devil, and let's not forget their God of law, still murdered him.

The antichrist is still in the world today... It is fed by law... The law did not save Jesus... The true God of liberty and faith did. The law could both condemn him and liberate him in the same breath. The dilemma is between the law of man (imperfect) and the liberty of God (perfect).

Such hypocrisy cannot be the way...

Jesus Christ nailed the law to his own cross... He died in the flesh so I could live in the spirit...

Ephesians 3:1-13
1 For this cause I Paul [rexred], the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: 7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power. 8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; 9 And to make [help] all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, [liberty before Eden] who created all things by Jesus Christ: 10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, 11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: 12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him. 13 Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.

Ephesians 3:14-21
14 For this cause I [rexred] bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God. 20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, 21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

Comment:
Liberty is holier than the law.

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Rex look at your posts. You insist on going on and on and on posting your opinions. Everyone else just gives scripture which was written long before you were even formed. Opinions are interesting but when used against God's Word, they're worthless. You must have a lot of time to waste.

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The book of Jude tells us grace is not a license to sin. So stop with the comments that you're free to behave wrongly and will be rewarded in spite of it. Go on to Revelation in the earliest chapters and read where only the faithful will be given their place in heaven.

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". . . ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils." (1Corinthians 10:21)

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One man's wasted time is another man's good works...

The "gospel of truth" spoken of above is, LIBERTY...

If you profess to be "Christian" you should understand this...

I will continue to go on and on as long as it takes to sink in. Others may join if they so please.

Unity of mind is possible only within the confines of liberty.

The problem with the world today is law. We have a world full of Cains running around murdering their brothers, and neighbors even their own children over LAW!

This is anti christ, anti God, anti Allah, anti Jehovah, anti human, anti ethical.

I will not stop until all have heard for themselves that damnation and sin are constructs of law not liberty. The only damnation is law within liberty.

We will possibly in our lifetime see the end of the human race through these next pending world wars if we cannot learn liberty over law as conscious whole.

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Law cannot exist within liberty...

Only the enlightened see this.

The table of devils is the law...

The tables of the lord are surely liberty...

I had a second helping, cereal with nuts and fruit...

The word "original" does not appear once in the king James Bible.

The the english word "sin" in the Bible is transliterated from hebrew as "Chatta'ah"...

Ge 18:20
And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin [Chatta'ah] is very grievous;

Ex 20:20
And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin [Chatta'ah] not.

Comment:
Sin existed before the written law.

Do you see a contradiction in this verse?

Moses says, fear not... God is coming to give you fear so you will sin not.

When you look up the words fear in the concordance you find that there are different words underneath the two words fear in the verse.

In other words, the translators did not know the subtle difference between the two words so they translated them both with the same english word "fear".

Translated this way they contradict each other.

Are fear and reverence the same thing?

Fear is a child of the law and reverence is a child of liberty.