Jesus Christ and Homosexuality.

Would God change his sexual orientation to please me? Would you change yours to please someone else?

I believe there is a rightful purpose in nature for homosexuality and that it is neither a sin or wrong.

The only sins are intolerance, bigotry, promiscuity and excess.

Homosexuality is not a sin but it is a gift from God, but as with any gifts from God they come with a responsibility.

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Someone who kills a fly is more repulsed than one who kills innocence? There is a sin of conscience in that.

Yet, "sin consciousness" can completely override liberty and the freedom in Christ. This is a travesty also.

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True, except that the serial child killer has considerably more of which to repent.

That is not to excuse the practicer of what might be considered a small sin who persists in it despite knowing it is disapproved by God. We can learn from the example of King Manasseh, who was forgiven despite having murdered many as compared to King Saul, whose sin as recorded in 1 Samuel chapter 15 might seem small, but was never repented.

Would you call the religious right pushing teen homosexuals into suicide "serial killers"? Should they have a conscience?

I'm against the demonizing of any group, particularly those who are young.

That being said, I refuse to label anyone of that age, either. If you had read my own story, you would know why.

SPANK ME!

Neo, I have read many great things you have written and I know you are a person of fine character and true Christian compassion.

Sometimes I feel like I am part of this big dysfunctional family.

The devil's number one thing is to "steal" the word of Jesus Christ.
Why? What is the greatest thing we learn from the word? Liberty. If the devil can steal the word he can steal liberty.

Once liberty is stolen the word cannot live. If liberty is able to take root and grow then love is the result. Liberty and love is the release from law for law is division. Love cannot exist without unity, and without love there is no hope.

So if the devil does manage to steal the word and it's liberty then he has also managed to "kill" the "live love walk " of the book of Ephesians. If he manages to kill the live love then he has also managed to destroy the hope of the return of Christ Jesus. They are interrelated terms.

Joh 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Comment:
Jesus Christ said, I am the way, truth and the life.

Jesus is the way of liberty, this way of liberty leads to truth (speaking the truth in love.), and truth in love facilitates the hope of the return of Christ to receive us all up into glory.

Steal, kill and destroy
Way, truth and the life
Word (liberty), love and hope.

Steal the way or word of liberty

Kill the walk of love and truth [speaking (word) the truth (liberty) in love]

Destroy the hope and ultimately peoples lives [life (physical and spiritual)].

Joh 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Comment:
So what is the truth in love? Liberty.

3Jo 1:1
The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth.

Kate wrote:

The bible is clear that as born again christians we are to die to the flesh and live in the Spirit

Comment:

Jesus Christ died in the flesh so we could live free in the flesh and spirit.

Ro 12:1
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

Comment: We are holy because the spirit within is incorruptible not because of our flesh (works). We are acceptable because Jesus Christ was accepted. Yet our bodies need to be subject to "reasonable service".

Reasonable service?

Joh 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

It is said that only to look upon the ark of the covenant could cause sickness, disease and even death. Why?

Because the law brought abominations and sickness. To look at the law squarely and face on was tantamount to death.

Why would this holy law that was supposedly given from God be so detrimental to peoples health?

Why couldn't the ark be looked upon without it killing someone?

If the ark was so holy why did it cause death? Why could only a high priest look upon it?

I posted a picture of Warren Steed Jeffs (mormon offshoot polygamist and child rapist). The same justification he uses to marry teenage girls before God to old men is the justification the religious right use to condemn homosexuality. Their beloved king Solomon was a polygamist. How do they reconcile that? It is the same justification radical muslims use to kill innocent people. It is the same justification the protestants and catholics have killed each other over for centuries.

http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/can_you_believe_it/debates/80wives.html

It is true that many so called christians go into complete apoplexy over certain sins. I believe it is to draw attention away from their own secret sins, for what many fail to realize is that all sins are pretty much the same. If one fails to repent and make effort to change ones personality, then the gossiper can expect the same consequence as the axe murderer.

Before we discuss my sins for loving a consenting adult of the same sex let's consider "the sins of the Bible itself".

Sin Number 1:
The Bible says God created man first and then woman. (biology says otherwise)

Sin Number 2:
The Biblical definition of consensual "adults" does not (clearly) include women.

Sin Number 3
Equating sickness with sin. (Oblivious of microorganisms)

Sin Number 4:
Equating the animal (pig) with evil (When all creatures are created by God thus, "godly". ).

Sin Number 5:
Creating laws that are ambiguous and a God that is (at least on the surface) self contradicting.

Sin Number 6:
Taking on the image of a jealous, malicious and spiteful God, when the true God has no evil in mind.

Sin Number 7: Omission of truth, fabrication of lies and half truths. (knight moves)

Sin Number 8:
Obscuring the biological truths of our conception and true connection with nature. (acts of "God" etc.)

Sin number 9:
Favoring one people over another when we are all God's children created in love.

Sin number 10:
Portraying a God of love while terrorizing people with fear (Hypocrisy).

Before you read and follow the ten commandments of "the Bible" you might be interested in FIRST knowing the ten sins of the Bible itself. (There are more than ten sins of the Bible but the list starts there.)

I came up with them off the top of my head and if any would like to add or detract from them, be my guest.

If we hold the Bible to the same standard it expects us to live, it itself crumbles in logic and practice.

Before the Bible casts stones at my sin it should cast out it's own sins first.

When I all comes down to it I do not agree with the out in the world Biblical interpretation of the law as it relates to the subject of homosexuality.

I believe the Biblical view of sexuality is crude and barbaric for the most part.

Yet this seems to be the mirror that I see reflected in the conscious psyche of the world today.

They dream of paradise and heaven and do not realize that heaven and paradise is here. God is here. But God is far from those who run far from him/her.

The sins of the Bible have obscured the God of the Bible to most.

The God of the Bible does not look to our sin but to our thankful heart. This God is our sufficiency in that we would be much worse if we did not love the true God. For we may never know how much God has already saved us from.

But liberty saved us and love will guide us to hope and unity.

I believe the Bible law concerning homosexuality is not only crude/barbaric but also sinful. The law has omitted how homosexuals should "live" their lives. It is seemingly silent on homosexual "virtues".

This in itself is a sin of the Bible.

As if all homosexuals should just be stoned... What blasphemy of the spirit of the true God of love, what filth of hatred would write such rubbish?

Homosexuality is not sin and it never has been. But certain homosexual acts CAN be seriously wrong just as acts of heterosexuality CAN be wrong (evil) also. THIS is the truth NOT what is written in the Bible concerning killing homosexuals.

Lying to a sex partner is a sin especially if you put that person in mortal danger.

Hating someone else's sexual preference is a SIN likewise.

Where is this in the Bible? The Bible is NOT complete. And the last word on "God" has not been written yet I assure you.