Jesus Christ and Homosexuality.

Even if he Lucifer took the form of a serpent, it still shows him in his fallen state and not a state where he was obedient and "beautiful" to God.

Arsenokoite, obviously where we get our word "arson".

To set ablaze. To burn.

"A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it."

Ac 13:22
And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

Lu 22:42
Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

Comment:
Knight moves.

Mt 13:35
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

Matthew 21:28-32
28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard. 29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went. 30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not. 31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. 32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

RexRed, I'd be very worried if I were you if you think snakes are phallic. Don't know what penises you've been looking at, but none I've ever seen are even remotely anything like snakes.

hehe

Snakes are more phallic than an aardvark.

That reminds me of a story about the late President Lyndon B. Johnson. . .

Why, what form did he take on?

This topic has taken a wierd and gross turn

lol

Finally we agree about something.

I will put this thread back on topic.

What is really burning my onion are some of today's religious people. Talk about weird and gross.

They go into high schools and get in gay teens faces and tell them they are sick and they can be healed.

That is like telling a blond person they can be healed.

They fill these teens with so much fear that they go commit suicide.

RexRed

when has this happened?

This has been happening for centuries.

http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/apanogay.htm

i say its pretty offensive to tell some teenage, who is already confused enough about this, that they have a serious problem that that an afront to god.

Silence of the lambs.

No sin is any worse than any other and all sin is an affront to God. The proper perspective is that some behaviors are sinful.

Rex, you are really devoted to this. What would you do if you suddenly discovered you had been acting in error?

Then I would continue in my error and God will have to live with it like I have had to. I spent many years on the fence torturing myself. I cannot express what it is like being torn, Every time I tried to change, I failed, like I have it stronger than most. I will never try or be able to try again.

At any point in this conversation you could be barraged with too much private information. You don't want to know and you can never understand this lifestyle unless you are touched with it. Very few choose to be gay, would you choose it considering what gay people are faced with?.

Like the errant preacher preaching about the evils of alcohol to a drunk. The drunk knows more about the evils of alcohol than the preacher will ever know. The drunk is searching for peace with God... in every sip.

And God cries when we grieve and God is joyful when we are happy.

The thief comes to steal the liberty of the word, kill the walk of love and destroy the hope of Christ Jesus' return.

God will cleanse me at the "BEMA" (finish line) [rewards not judgement]. If I have any impurities he can rid them out if he so desires. Yet it is my hope that he will honor my love because I have been an example of a moderate and kind gay person, I have run a good race. Considering how I have been inflicted by peoples hate I have lived with concern and reverence for God. I do not consider my homosexuality a curse, only when others are un-accepting of me then their hatred becomes my nemesis. Yet my homosexuality is not a burden but a place of love and harmony and acceptance within me. It is also a place where God is.

I hope this is not TMI (too much information).

As a youngster in grammar school I had all five of the smartest and prettiest girls in the whole school that sat around my desk in every period for several years. We were all A/B students.

The boys really sometimes loathed me because the pretty/smart girls were my good friends (they trusted me). All the girls liked me, even the bully girls eventually became my best friends too. We would play jump rope, tag and patty-cakes when the other boys were too afraid to even walk up to a girl and say, "Hi." The boys would get all red faced and flustered. In sports I would be the "only" guy on the girls team. I am athletic and with me on their team they would more often win against the boys. I was nice to "all" of the girls.

Most people (even homosexuals) do not suspect or consider that I am gay. I would have to gel my hair up like a bird, don an earing in the wrong ear and wear all pink for someone to figure it out.

Your orientation notwithstanding, would you not change your behavior to please God? After all, many followers have chosen voluntary celibacy.

Rex thank you for sharing with us...I, in no way respect anyone who hides uses christianity to hate....I can't stand supposed christians that scream horrible names to homosexuals...NOt long ago, where i live this church from another state came to our town.. They went to many of our baptist churches sat outside on a Sunday and screamed sick hateful words about gays....They had posters and everything.....They laughed about gays going to hell etc....It was sickening....That is not what the bible teaches and these cowards are just hateful people that arent truly bornagain christians.....

Im telling you this to show you that anyone can call themselves a christian, but if they dont truly follow Gods word and live for Christ they aren't saved....These people that do this are filled with hate not the Holy spirit....I hope that you don't believe that the actions of a few hatemongers any way reflects us true bornagainers........
Ok now if i may be blunt..The bible is clear that homosexuality is wrong...The bible is clear that as born again christians we are to die to the flesh and live in the SPirit, we are to strive daily to not sin..

Galations 2:20 have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.


..Does that mean we are perfect and don't mess up??? NO....but as christians when we sin we are to go to God and repent and try to crucify that sin as paul has stated..........As christians we are called to live a life that is HOly in God's eyes...and we can't do that if we live in continual sin....NOw im not blasting homosexuality as an evil worse than others etc etc as some do..But as christians we have to give up those things that God says are wrong.....IF we continue in sin then Christ died in vain......

I am not trying to be rude in what i have written....It is what i believe and i hope that i dont offend you or anyone else...You may disagree with what ive written and that's ok...but i will never hate you or anyone else and im sorry that people have been hateful to you.......