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...It seems to me that the really significant new fact emerging from this event is the Islamization of the Turkish government and its fundamental shift away from Europe and towards leadership of its former empire. The days of the political alliance between the then secular government of Turkey and Israel are over.

Neither the Palestinian Arabs nor the Palestinian Jews possess any historic right to their current territory. What they posses, they obtained from the British plus their own successful and unsuccessful, good and bad efforts.

Let's be real! When the survivors of the Final Solution were "dumped" into the British Mandate of Palestine, and the British solicited the UN to have it made a Jewish state,....

Neither the Palestinian Arabs nor the Palestinian Jews possess any historic right to their current territory. What they posses, they obtained from the British plus their own successful and unsuccessful, good and bad efforts.

An amazingly nonsensical statement. There have been many occupants and occupiers of the territory of Palestine over the last two thousand years. However, none of them had less legitamacy than the British colonial occupiers who held the land from the end of WWI until 1947. Their historical, political and moral right to confer it on anyone was nil.

It is an undisputed historical fact that Moslem, Christian, Druz, and Jewish Palestinians occupied the land long before the European Jewish Zionist movement began in the late 19th century.

Nothing of what you wrote has anything to do with the recent Israeli flotilla raid. Not one single person of all the people who were killed was a "Palestinian Arab". No evidence whatsoever has been presented that would indicate that the intention of those killed civilians was to "exterminate the Palestinian Jews in Israel."

You justified the killing of those people by saying that Israel was prejudiced against them. How does prejudice against anyone give you the right to kill that person?

Those killed by the Israeli attempt to inspect that ship were allies of the Palestinian Arabs. On the contrary, many if not all the people on that boat were acting in support of the Palestinian terrorists.

I guess you feel that our actions at Midway, when we sunk most of the Japanese navy, was illegal. Midway is in the middle of the Pacific

Those killed by the Israeli attempt to inspect that ship were allies of the Palestinian Arabs. On the contrary, many if not all the people on that boat were acting in support of the Palestinian terrorists.

We sunk 4 ... What we did ...

Were they peaceful activists or supporters of terrorism? Israel claims that some participants and organizers of the Gaza aid convoy attacked by the Israeli navy on May 31 had links with terrorist groups -- but they have offered no evidence. SPIEGEL ONLINE takes a closer look at the accusations.

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Initially the accusations focused on the Turkish aid organization IHH which had purchased three of the six ships in the convoy. Most of the nine Turkish activists killed in the raid appear to have been IHH members. But Israel has since then also accused five individuals who appear to have no connection with IHH of having links with al-Qaida, Hamas and the Islamic Jihad group.
The accusations are almost impossible to verify because the Israeli government appears to be basing them on secret intelligence information, if indeed there is a foundation for their claims. In a statement released on Monday, the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) released a list of five passengers on board the Turkish vessel Mavi Marmara that the army claimed were "known to be involved in terrorist activity." ...

The list lacks any references to sources. "The following passengers on board the Mavi Marmara are known to be involved in terrorist activity," the statement says at the beginning. The Israeli army provides no evidence to back up its claims. ...

Foofie wrote:

Let's be real! When the survivors of the Final Solution were "dumped" into the British Mandate of Palestine, and the British solicited the UN to have it made a Jewish state,....

Some serious distortions of historical fact there.

The survivors of the Holocaust were not "dumped" by anyone into British-controlled Palestine. They fled there in large numbers in a movement planned organized and funded by largely Jewish Zionist organizations. Their motives in going were certainly understandable - the Holocaust, and the fact that many weren't welcome back in their former homes by Europeans, induced a generation off European jews who had previously rejected Zionist inducements voted en masse with their feet in 1946.

The British were in 1945 suddently confronted with their duplicity before and during WWI when they promised the land of Palestine (which they really intended to keep after they got it from the Turkish Ottomans) both to the Hashemite Arab then rulers of Mecca and Medina and to the European Zionist leaders. The British with their traditional duplicity played both sides of the game, working hard to convince both parties that they were on their side, up until the end when they suddenly announced they were bugging out and asked the UN to take over the mess they had created.

Fox News just reported that Saudi Arabia has given permission for Israeli jets to use Saudi airspace if they attack Iran.

This is getting interesting.