ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

DUD back to you they surely are arm with their own "police force" and courts for that matter!!!!!!!!!

Do you know anything about the middle east?

They do have their own court system, but they are mostly in fenced in villages where Jews do not live.

Read the article in this URL: http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6854.shtml

After that one, read this one: http://jewishpoliticalchronicle.org/dec03/Fenced%20in.pdf

"Coat of arms?" ROFL

The only so-called weapons in the Gaza is by Hamas who get them through tunnels, because Israel does not allow Palestinians to own weapons of any kind.

You have no clue what the hell you are talking about do you!!!!!!!!!

http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/israel-escorts-egyptian-arms-delivery-t30680.html


Los Angeles Times
December 29, 2006
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U.S. consents to the shipment, intended to counter the militant Hamas movement.
By Richard Boudreaux, Times Staff Writer
JERUSALEM " With Israeli and U.S. consent, Egypt has shipped a cache of weapons through Israel to bolster the security forces of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in his increasingly violent struggle with the militant Hamas movement, Israeli officials said Thursday.
Four trucks containing 2,000 automatic rifles, 20,000 ammunition clips and 2 million ammunition rounds crossed from Egypt into Israel on Wednesday and were escorted by Israeli military police to a crossing into the Gaza Strip, bound for units of Abbas' Presidential Guard there, the officials said.
Although the shipment was part of a U.S.-backed effort to upgrade the 6,000-member guard, it was the first in more than six years to be publicly authorized and assisted by Israel, which had balked at enabling any Palestinian faction to receive arms that might eventually be used against the Jewish state.
That concern faded last week as Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert embraced Abbas as a partner for peace talks. Details of the weapons delivery were worked out here Saturday during the first formal meeting between the two leaders, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported.
The shipment was first reported in Thursday's editions of Haaretz and later confirmed by Israeli officials in an unusual and risky public display of support for Abbas' effort to unseat the Hamas-led Palestinian government by forcing early elections.
"The assistance is aimed at reinforcing the forces of peace in the face of the forces of darkness that threaten the future of the Middle East," Amos Gilad, head of the Defense Ministry's diplomatic and security policy office, told Israel Radio.
Egyptian officials made no comment on the shipment.
Hamas is supported by Iran and Syria in its refusal to recognize or negotiate with Israel. Iran has been sending as much as $15 million a month to the Hamas movement, Israeli officials say, enabling it to build a paramilitary force parallel to Abbas' security apparatus.
Rival agendas and patrons have turned the armed clashes between Hamas and Abbas' Fatah movement into a proxy battle between Iran and Syria on the one hand and the Bush administration, European Union, Israel and moderate Arab states such as Egypt and Jordan on the other.
The Bush administration is seeking congressional approval of $100 million to bolster Abbas' guard in the West Bank and Gaza and expand its control over Gaza's border with Egypt to stop the smuggling of weapons and cash to Hamas.
Factional clashes have been frequent since Hamas ousted the long-ruling Fatah movement in elections in January and took control of the Cabinet and parliament. Seventeen people died in an 11-day stretch this month after Hamas resisted Abbas' call for early elections.
Egyptian mediators arranged a truce, but many Palestinians believe the lull will not last long past the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha, which ends Tuesday.
Fatah has an estimated 50,000 men under arms in various security services and militias. But Hamas' paramilitary Executive Force and the movement's Izzidin al-Qassam military wing are considered disciplined and motivated enough to hold their own or prevail in a protracted civil conflict. Each has about 6,000 fighters.
The arms delivery made public Thursday was aimed at neutralizing Hamas' advantage in Gaza, where most of its forces are concentrated.
An Israeli military officer familiar with the Palestinian factional fighting said 2,000 rifles wouldn't change the military balance. They apparently were sent and publicized, he said, as a "political demonstration" of Israel's backing for Abbas.
Until now, Israeli support for Fatah has been covert to avoid embarrassing Abbas, who was elected last year. Israel's dilemma is that open support for any Palestinian leader invariably risks weakening him, and thus could backfire.
Moshe Elad, an Israeli reserve army colonel and former head of the army's liaison office with the Palestinians, said the government had decided it was pointless to keep its support for Abbas under wraps.
"Some argue that revealing such aid might aggravate tensions," he said.
"But the situation in the territories has already reached a boiling point."
It was not clear whether Abbas, under criticism from Hamas for seeking peace with Israel, wanted or even expected word of the arms shipment to be leaked.
An Abbas spokesman, Nabil abu Rudaineh, denied any arms delivery, even as the Agence France-Presse news agency quoted a Palestinian security official as confirming what the Israelis reported.
Hamas called the shipment an unwanted American and Israeli intervention in Palestinian affairs.
"These weapons will not affect Hamas' power, which comes from the people," said Ismail Radwan, a spokesman.
"And our people are not going to be driven into a civil war that is going to benefit only the Zionist enemy."
Another risk for Israel is that the weapons will end up with Hamas, which is sworn to the Jewish state's destruction. After the Palestinian Authority was created by the Oslo peace accords in the 1990s, Israel authorized the arming of a 30,000-member Palestinian security force.
Many of those weapons ended up in the hands of militants who rose up against Israel in 2000 as talks on a final peace settlement broke down. Critics of this week's arms shipment cautioned that history could repeat itself.
"We have encountered these guns before," said Yiftah Ron-Tal, a former Israeli army general.
"I would be very careful about providing Palestinians with weapons that could be pointed at us in the future."
Special correspondent Maher Abukhater in Ramallah, West Bank

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After the Palestinian Authority was created by the Oslo peace accords in the 1990s, Israel authorized the arming of a 30,000-member Palestinian security force.
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Please take note in 1994 when their government was first set up they had 30,000 men under arms but somehow a lot of those weapons ended up in terrorists hands!

Sorry but your blind hate for all things concerning the Jewish state and the Jews for that matter had blind you to the facts.

Your huge brush that you have a habit of using only reflects your extremism. Please show us current stats on how many Palestinians owns guns? How many Palestinians are being treated as if they are all terrorists or criminals? Please provide these stats for us, because I can't find any info of any Palestinian shooting at innocent Jews with guns.

You got to be kidding me they started out with a force of 30,000 arm men with Israel permission in order to keep the peace they happen to had agreed to and yet somehow a lot of that equipment ended up in the terrorists hands instead. So your silly claim a few posts ago that their government did not have the power to stop terrorists have been shown to not be the true.

In fact instead of trying terrorists the assholes used their court system to tried and executed anyone found to be working with the Israels and the good people of Palestine had now placed a group in power with a history of terrorist acts and open statements that they wish to wipe out the Jewish state

So you now wish to know how many thousands security/police troops they had at the moment and my question is who care? They had never used such forces to keep the peace and instead only to aid in breaking the peace and their words.

If I had been in charge of the Israel government my patient with a people who can not keep their word and at every chance wish to kill my women and children would had long been in the past.

Second what had amazed me is how little you seem to know about the situation you have such strong feelings about!

The poor Palestinians was not allow to have weapons by the evil Israels so they could of course not deal with the terrorists is hardly the truth.

In fact their government have a long and sad history of breaking their word and in fact supporting the killing of women and children of the evil Jews.

I am frankly getting tired of your blind hate for a people who had shown far greater restrain then almost any other people in history.

When a Mexican band crossed our borders and kill our citizens we reacted very strongly indeed sending great military force back over the border to hunt them down.

I assume that you wish the evil Jews to allow their women and children to be blown up on busses and to have rockets fall at random on their communities so not one poor Palestinian is in any way or in any manner limited in his ‘right’ of free movement.

All Palestinian Arabs who do not live in Israel and who do nothing to stop those among them from trying to conquer Israel, deserve to be conquered by Israel.

Conquer is not the problem the problem is having neighbors who keep trying to kill you.

At some point the only solution will be to removed them from the area and or kill them.

The US with far less reason removed the Indian tribes from the Eastern Seaboard area of the US under President Jackson.

The whole thing is sad as everyone would be better off if the arms was lay down with special reference to the Palestinians.

Those murderous neighbors of Israel would conquer Israel if they could and then systematically murder every Jew in Israel.

Yes they would it they could but that is the same as saying if Mexico could it would take back the US South West it is not of any concern as neither Mexico or the Pals have or will ever have that power.

The only concern is their charming habit of killing citizens of Israel by random rockets fire or suicide bombings.

At first I thought that the western powers would be asked to evacuate the Jews from Israel, then I thought that they would want to prevent them from coming back at some future date, so I realized that you could be very correct.

Bill, Are you that dense? The Israelis have killed more innocent Palestinians with their guns and weapons than the other way around. The real terrorists are the Israelis who use their weapons, sometimes purposely, to kill innocent Palestinian children. These incidences have evidence by human rights organizations and the UN.



So, who's the terrorists here?

Math is probably beyond your abilities.

When you fire rockets and such from the middle of your population centers hoping that your own children and women will give you protection from counter fire then who is in fact killing your children the Israels military or your own cowardly selves?

Israel troops does not target children unlike the suicide bombers and no children would be harm on either side if the Pals would stop the attacks.

They don't have to "target" them, because they end up killing so many innocent children anyhoos.

They don't have to "target" them, because they end up killing so many innocent children anyhoos.
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So as in so what? If the Pals love their children they would not allow terrorists to turn their populations centers into battle fields.

If they wish to kill Israel citizens more then they care about their children that is a shame but it is their shame not the Israelis
who need to protected their own women and children.

My silly friend if someone is shooting up your home with your wife and children in it and the only way to stop them is to return fire even knowing that the fools trying to kill you had their women and children in harm way somehow I do not think you would not return that fire.

For some very very strange reason you seem not to think that any Jew have a right to self defense.

Bill, You are really an ignoramus! Have you gone around in your own neighborhood to stop all crimes? Why not? You expect the Palestinians to stop all crimes in Israel. Do you know what the crime rates are in the US? Murder? Rape? Look at statistics for some large cities such as Detroit, Los Angeles, Oakland, Phoenix, etc., etc., etc. Also look at crime rates in Israel, Europe, Asia, SE Asia, Africa, and all the rest of the world. Why aren't the citizens in those locations stopping all the crime?

You need some reality check; mental ones. And stop being an ass.

Cicerone, you alleged 12 times more non-Israeli PA civilians killed by Israelis than Israeli civilians killed by non-Israeli PAs. If true, that is the horrible price the non-Israeli PAs have paid for trying to conquer Israel. None of those non-Israeli PA civilians killed by Israelis, would have been killed by Israelis, if the non-Israeli PAs had never attempted to conquer Israel. In the event more Israeli civilians are killed by non-Israeli PAs, many more non-Israeli PAs will be killed.

I think that's fair!