ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

As far as I am aware the part about the barriers coming down wasn't pre-conditioned on Hamas/Palestinians ceasing their firing of rockets.

Palestinians hardships due to barriers

If people are crushed like the Palestinians; they are going to fight. Either each other or the people who are crushing them.

' Movement in and out of Gaza is all but impossible
and supplies of food and water, sewage treatment,and basic healthcare can no longer be taken for granted. As a result of the blockade and collapse of the economy, there is little money to buy food and limited food to buy. Food prices are rising and wheat, flour, baby milk, and rice, among other essential goods, are increasingly scarce. . .

. . . The Gaza economy is no longer on the brink of
collapse - it has collapsed. In the last 6 months, the majority of private businesses have shut down and 95% of Gaza's industrial operations are suspended due to the ban on imported raw materials and the block on exports 26. Entire sectors including construction and agriculture have ground to a halt, 3,500 factories out of 3,900 have closed in the last 6 months resulting in some 75,000 job losses in the private sector as a whole . . .

The number of people living in absolute poverty in
Gaza has increased sharply. Today, 80% of families in Gaza currently rely on humanitarian aid compared to 63% in 2006 4. This decline exposes unprecedented
levels of poverty and the inability of a large majority of the population to afford basic food. . .

Unemployment in Gaza is close to 40% and is set to rise to 50% 7. The private sector - that generates 53% of all jobs in Gaza - has been devastated, businesses have been bankrupted and 75,000 out of 110,000 workers are now without a job. At present, 95% of Gaza's industrial operations are suspended because they cannot access inputs for production nor can they export what they produce . . .

The blockade is destroying public service infrastructure in Gaza. The Israeli government prevents the repair and maintenance of the electricity and water service infrastructure in Gaza by prohibiting the import of spare parts. The impact of this is amplified by Israel's parallel punitive restrictions on fuel and electricity to Gaza. Hospitals cannot generate electricity to keep lifesaving equipment working or to generate oxygen, while 40-50 million litres of sewage continues to pour into the sea daily 14. In September 2007, an UNRWA survey in the Gaza Strip revealed that there was a nearly 80% failure rate in schools grades four to nine, with up to 90% failure rates in Mathematics 15. In January 2008, UNICEF reported that schools in Gaza had been cancelling classes that were high on energy consumption, such as IT, science labs .

How many deaths would you consider necessary in order for Israel to be justified in defending Israeli citizens against unprovoked rocket attacks?

ican, Get your head out of the sand; there is no way the Palestinians can "crush" the Israelis. They have no weapons, no freedom of movement, and barely eeking out a living for food and water.

Probably true. But they nonetheless keep trying to crush Israel.
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FYI, not all Palestinians are bad, and not all Jews are bad; ...

Probably true. But the reality is that the good one's had better themselves crush the bad ones in their midst, or they will be crushed too.

I suggest you visit Israel and speak to both Palestinians and Jews. See the living conditions of the Palestinians for yourself - with an open mind, if that's possible.

I already know the living conditions of the good Palestinians are horrible. That is a direct consequence and the price they will continue to pay as long as they, who far outnumber the bad ones, permit the bad one's to continually attempt to crush Israel.

How many deaths would you consider necessary in order for Israel to be justified in defending Israeli citizens against unprovoked rocket attacks?

Foxfyre wrote:

How many deaths would you consider necessary in order for Israel to be justified in defending Israeli citizens against unprovoked rocket attacks?

Unprovoked how?

If I throw you out of your home, and build a big wall round it, you won't try to attack me?

McTag wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

How many deaths would you consider necessary in order for Israel to be justified in defending Israeli citizens against unprovoked rocket attacks?

Unprovoked how?

If I throw you out of your home, and build a big wall round it, you won't try to attack me?

After 50 year's, I'd probably look for a new home instead of teaching my children and their children to continue the hate and violence. But, hey, that's just me.

Palestinians have always suffered under Israel but lately their suffering has just been horrific and yet we never hear anything about it from news on television. ...

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... Most of the Palestinians have lived in Palestine for generations, while the Jews of "Israel" are mostly new emigrants.
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McGentrix wrote:

McTag wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

How many deaths would you consider necessary in order for Israel to be justified in defending Israeli citizens against unprovoked rocket attacks?

Unprovoked how?

If I throw you out of your home, and build a big wall round it, you won't try to attack me?

After 50 year's, I'd probably look for a new home instead of teaching my children and their children to continue the hate and violence. But, hey, that's just me.

Oh! Most of the Palestinians have lived in Palestine for generations, while the Jews of "Israel" are mostly new emigrants. You make no sense at all (the common kind).

jeez I am really really trying to piss you people off with my contempt for Israel. Whats wrong with you? Come on give me a bite.

My contempt for Israeli aggression is only matched by my disdain for religious terrorism. I repeat Israel is a failed state. The zionist experiment in the Middle East has failed. The Jewish population is declining wrt the Arabs and lashing out at whole populations is a policy of despair. Its time the Israeli/zionist state was dismantled and a new binational state encompassing the whole of Palestine established.

I really don't know how CI and Steve manage to lie so easily.

The Pal-Israelis live very well, on a par with Jewish-Israelis, and certainly better than the vast majority of people in the rest of the ME. Most of the Pals are very young, with very few among those who abandoned their country in 1948.

cicerone imposter wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

McTag wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

How many deaths would you consider necessary in order for Israel to be justified in defending Israeli citizens against unprovoked rocket attacks?

Unprovoked how?

If I throw you out of your home, and build a big wall round it, you won't try to attack me?

After 50 year's, I'd probably look for a new home instead of teaching my children and their children to continue the hate and violence. But, hey, that's just me.

Oh! Most of the Palestinians have lived in Palestine for generations, while the Jews of "Israel" are mostly new emigrants. You make no sense at all (the common kind).

Don't be an idiot. Jews have lived there for a long time as well. Jesus was a jew that visited Jerusalem and lived in the area... I believe that was more then 100 years ago.