georgeob1 wrote:Foofie wrote:Do you get it? A Texan in Texas can be a Texan (clapping hands to the tune of, "deep in the heart of Texas.") But, outside of Israel, a Jew needs to be very aware of being a Jew. Even declining bacon, with the bacon and eggs breakfast special can engender a "knowing smirk." Most Jews are inured to this, but just like you have Texas, I believe Jews worldwide should have Israel as their choice to emigrate to, if they are perhaps tired of "knowing smirks" (clapping hands to the tune of, "deep in the heart of Israel.")
Precisely the same asinine argument could be made (and is made in some quarters) for Moslems; white supremicists; Catholics; Protestants; Armenians; and I suppose red-haired people. This argument is also identical to Hitler's call for "living space" for the German diaspora in Central Europe and Russia.
Foofie is in some rather bad company.
I don't accept your analogy, since Catholics in Belfast have been treated poorly by Protestants, for just being Catholics. And Jews in more than a few places in this country would be treated less than respectfully, like any other person, if they are not secular, and show the traditional religious garb.
Your using "Hitler's call for "living space" for the German diaspora in Central Europe and Russia" above, as a comparison for Zionism is actually funny, if it didn't show how you aren't seeing the difference between the two. Isn't Hitler and his "living space" the exact reason Jews give value to the existence of Israel? Hitler's living space criteria was inside and outside Germany; the Nazis had no living space to
share with Jews. Don't you see how you are using possibly the worst analogy?
I don't see why you make the ad hominem of calling my argument asinine, other than you don't agree with it? And, if you don't realize it, Protestants have at least five homelands that in an emergency, their fellow Protestants would very likely extend a Visa: Britain, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, United States. I say this since I've seen expatriates from these countries come to the United States, and are given very nice careers in corporate America. I guess it was the love of their accents? Personally, I believe it is human nature to take care of one's own, and the common denominator for these five countries is that Protestantism really runs each country. I say this, since if people can say Jews are clannish, let's be real and admit Protestants can be clubbish.
I repeat, five Protestant homelands. And, just for posterity, other than Britain, which fought with Catholics off and on in that country until Protestants got the upper hand, the other four Protestant countries did a thorough job of disenfranchising the original indigenous populations.
Recent history has taught Jews that in a world of six billion people, very few are willing to share "living room" with Jews.