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ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 2 Dec, 2006 06:22 pm
Setanta wrote:
Dream on Pachelbel . . . even the rightwingnuts cannot provide an example of anyone as self-deluded and paranoid as you. Lose arguments? To you? That's hilarious. What have you "won," Boy? Did Vanna White lead to your BRAND NEW CAR ! ! !

Hey . . . Pachelbel . . . WAKE UP . . . you're dreamin'.

Shocked
Wait just a minute. I thought you had designated me more deluded and paranoid than anyone. Pachelbel can't even come close. What's wrong with you Setanta, betraying your enemies like that? I resent it! Mad
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 2 Dec, 2006 06:26 pm
ican711nm wrote:
Setanta wrote:
Dream on Pachelbel . . . even the rightwingnuts cannot provide an example of anyone as self-deluded and paranoid as you. Lose arguments? To you? That's hilarious. What have you "won," Boy? Did Vanna White lead to your BRAND NEW CAR ! ! !

Hey . . . Pachelbel . . . WAKE UP . . . you're dreamin'.

Laughing
Wait just a minute. I thought you had designated me more deluded and paranoid than anyone. Pachelbel can't even come close. What's wrong with you Setanta, betraying your enemies like that? I resent it! Mad


Pointing out that you are deluded (and i don't believe i've ever said you were paranoid--you don't hold a candle, for example, to Brandon) doesn't mean you get to claim that you are the most deluded person around here. Get in line.

Pachelbel is, perhaps, the most deluded and paranoid leftwingnut at this site. You should see his Lincoln was a dictator thread, or any of the threads in which he has ranted about the alleged September 11th conspiracy. Pointing out that there was a conspiracy, and that the conspirators were 16 Saudis, one Lebanese and two Egyptians, all of whom died in the attacks, doesn't phase him or slow him down.

I put him right up there with Freedom4Free at the top of the leftwingnut heap.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 2 Dec, 2006 06:36 pm
Setanta wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
Setanta wrote:
Dream on Pachelbel . . . even the rightwingnuts cannot provide an example of anyone as self-deluded and paranoid as you. Lose arguments? To you? That's hilarious. What have you "won," Boy? Did Vanna White lead to your BRAND NEW CAR ! ! !

Hey . . . Pachelbel . . . WAKE UP . . . you're dreamin'.

Laughing
Wait just a minute. I thought you had designated me more deluded and paranoid than anyone. Pachelbel can't even come close. What's wrong with you Setanta, betraying your enemies like that? I resent it! Mad


Pointing out that you are deluded (and i don't believe i've ever said you were paranoid--you don't hold a candle, for example, to Brandon) doesn't mean you get to claim that you are the most deluded person around here. Get in line.

Pachelbel is, perhaps, the most deluded and paranoid leftwingnut at this site. You should see his Lincoln was a dictator thread, or any of the threads in which he has ranted about the alleged September 11th conspiracy. Pointing out that there was a conspiracy, and that the conspirators were 16 Saudis, one Lebanese and two Egyptians, all of whom died in the attacks, doesn't phase him or slow him down.

I put him right up there with Freedom4Free at the top of the leftwingnut heap.

Shocked Gad, this is disappointing! Maybe, if I spell more words wrong, you'll reinstate me. Crying or Very sad
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Sat 2 Dec, 2006 08:15 pm
Israeli Arabs seek right to return to villages abandoned in 1948

By Yoav Stern, Haaretz Correspondent

According to a position paper written by Mossawa - the Advocacy Center for Arab Citizens in Israel and presented in a conference in Nazareth on Friday, Israeli Arabs want the right to return to villages abandoned in 1948, educational autonomy and changes to the Israeli flag and national anthem.

The paper, written in close coordination with the Israel Higher Arab Monitoring Committee, was presented as part of the week-long Second Annual Days of Mossawa Festival and Nazareth Film Festival, which ended Saturday.

"Our goal is to achieve a historic compromise with the Jewish community in Israel," Mossawa Center director Jafar Farah told the conference. "The move by refugees of 1948 to their villages will not change the demographic balance or endanger the Jews. Unlike the refugees in Arab states, we are [already] here," Farah said. "The internal refugees [residents forced to leave their villages in 1948 who moved to other Arab communities within Israel] represent about one-fourth of the Arab population in Israel today."

Farah said the paper was spurred by a sense among many Israeli Arabs that they must have their say at a time when many Israeli organizations are working to frame a national constitution.

"We found ourselves in an absurd situation, in which Jews are deciding what is good for the Arabs because the Arab elites are not involved in the discussions. Now the decision makers will have to take our opinion into account," Farah said.

The 10-point position paper emphasizes the need to grant communal rights to the Arab public, including the increased use of the Arabic language; equality and fairness in immigration policy; the correct allotment of national resources; and fair representation. With regard to national symbols, the paper says: "The state's symbols, its flag and its national anthem are emotionally charged, public resources ... the state must give appropriate expression to the presence of Arab citizens in Israel and its historical relationship to the place."

Among the many jurists participating in the conference was Supreme Court Justice Salim Jubran, who said the existing Basic Right on Citizenship law must be amended to complete the constitutional protection of minority groups. He repeated his opposition to the Citizenship Law, which restricts the rights of Israeli Arabs to marry Palestinians.

Another participant, Dr. Raef Zreik, said the position paper does not refer to the Israeli Arabs' position regarding the Jewish majority in the country. He said the Israeli Arabs can officially recognize the right of the Jewish public to a state only as part of an overall peace agreement with the Palestinian people.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 06:25 pm
Although i certainly hope not, it appears that the Lebanon may be on the brink of civil war yet again:

An ABC News Online article on the continuing demonstrations, in which there has now been at least one death. This time there are even more news articles on the topic, more than 1,400 when i simply searched for "Lebanon" at Google News.
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pachelbel
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 09:07 pm
Setanta wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
Setanta wrote:
Dream on Pachelbel . . . even the rightwingnuts cannot provide an example of anyone as self-deluded and paranoid as you. Lose arguments? To you? That's hilarious. What have you "won," Boy? Did Vanna White lead to your BRAND NEW CAR ! ! !

Hey . . . Pachelbel . . . WAKE UP . . . you're dreamin'.

Laughing
Wait just a minute. I thought you had designated me more deluded and paranoid than anyone. Pachelbel can't even come close. What's wrong with you Setanta, betraying your enemies like that? I resent it! Mad


Pointing out that you are deluded (and i don't believe i've ever said you were paranoid--you don't hold a candle, for example, to Brandon) doesn't mean you get to claim that you are the most deluded person around here. Get in line.

Pachelbel is, perhaps, the most deluded and paranoid leftwingnut at this site. You should see his Lincoln was a dictator thread, or any of the threads in which he has ranted about the alleged September 11th conspiracy. Pointing out that there was a conspiracy, and that the conspirators were 16 Saudis, one Lebanese and two Egyptians, all of whom died in the attacks, doesn't phase him or slow him down.

I put him right up there with Freedom4Free at the top of the leftwingnut heap.


Of course you're referring to the Lincoln thread because, as someone else on A2K has pointed out, you just leave threads when you lose the argument. Please, all, do take a look at my other threads. The one about the Iran Bourse is especially interesting as it is now coming to pass. Enjoying your shrinking American dollar?

You are also too dim to get what I am saying about 9/11/conspiracy. I SAID that the US gov't was behind it all -the government within a government, or the Zionists as my thread points out. But don't go there; you might learn something upsetting.

And I must thank you for not including me in whatever 'heap' you're in. Keep your very, very small 'following'? of grovelling, snivelling creatures who think you know more than squat. You don't.
You are definitely proof that evolution CAN go in reverse. Enjoy your delusions of adequacy.

Anyone who thinks agnostics and atheists are the same is not worth my time. I suppose Catholics and Jews are the same, too.
And Shi'ite and Sunni.

Did the aliens forget to remove your anal probe?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 10:18 am
You waste a lot of space responding to someone who you claim is not worth your time.

But you've done a marvelous job of demonstrating just how goofy your points of view are, you need no help from me.

Strawman, Boy, i at not time said that atheists and agnostics are the same.
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pachelbel
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 03:15 pm
Setanta: You waste a lot of space responding to someone who you claim is not worth your time.

Yes, you certainly do.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 03:46 pm
Ah, but i didn't say you weren't worth my time, i just pointed out what kind of horsie poop you generally post.

You, however, did say that it wasn't worth your time to respond to me. But you keep doing so.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 06:07 pm
Humanity's enemy is convinced!

IF they die doing
this,
Quote:

EXCERPTS FROM THE KORAN
http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/ot2www-koran?specfile=%2Flv2%2Fenglish%2Frelig%2Fkoran%2Fwww%2Fkoran.o2w&query=wherever+you+find+them&docs=text&sample=1-100&grouping=work

Chapter 4: The Women : 4.89: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

Chapter 4: The Women : 4.91: You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.

Chapter 2: The Cow : 2.191: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

Chapter 9: The Immunity : 9.5: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.


THEN they will be rewarded with this,
Quote:

EXCERPTS FROM THE KORAN
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/ot2www-koran?specfile=%2Flv2%2Fenglish%2Frelig%2Fkoran%2Fwww%2Fkoran.o2w&query=beautiful+ones&docs=text&sample=1-100&grouping=work

Chapter 44: The Smoke :
44.51: Surely those who guard (against evil) are in a secure place,
44.52: In gardens and springs;
44.53: They shall wear of fine and thick silk, (sitting) face to face;
44.54: Thus (shall it be), and We will wed them with Houris pure, beautiful ones.
44.55: They shall call therein for every fruit in security;
44.56: They shall not taste therein death except the first death, and He will save them from the punishment of the hell,
44.57: A grace from your Lord; this is the great achievement.

Chapter 52: The Mountain :
52.17: Surely those who guard (against evil) shall be in gardens and bliss
52.18: Rejoicing because of what their Lord gave them, and their Lord saved them from the punishment of the burning fire.
52.19: Eat and drink pleasantly for what you did,
52.20: Reclining on thrones set in lines, and We will unite them to large-eyed beautiful ones.
52.21: And (as for) those who believe and their offspring follow them in faith, We will unite with them their offspring and We will not diminish to them aught of their work; every man is responsible for what he shall have wrought.
52.22: And We will aid them with fruit and flesh such as they desire.
52.23: They shall pass therein from one to another a cup wherein there shall be nothing vain nor any sin.
52.24: And round them shall go boys of theirs as if they were hidden pearls

Chapter 55: The Beneficent :
55.69: Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
55.70: In them are goodly things, beautiful ones.
55.71: Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
55.72: Pure ones confined to the pavilions.
55.73: Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
55.74: Man has not touched them before them nor jinni.
55.75: Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
55.76: Reclining on green cushions and beautiful carpets.
55.77: Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?
55.78: Blessed be the name of your Lord, the Lord of Glory and Honor!

Chapter 56: The Event :
56.11: These are they who are drawn nigh (to Allah),
56.12: In the gardens of bliss.
56.13: A numerous company from among the first,
56.14: And a few from among the latter.
56.15: On thrones decorated,
56.16: Reclining on them, facing one another.
56.17: Round about them shall go youths never altering in age,
56.18: With goblets and ewers and a cup of pure drink;
56.19: They shall not be affected with headache thereby, nor shall they get exhausted,
56.20: And fruits such as they choose,
56.21: And the flesh of fowl such as they desire.
56.22: And pure, beautiful ones,
56.23: The like of the hidden pearls:
56.24: A reward for what they used to do.
56.25: They shall not hear therein vain or sinful discourse,
56.26: Except the word peace, peace.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 06:18 pm
Iran FM calls for eradication of all WMDs

Tehran Times Political Desk
TEHRAN -- Iranian Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mottaki called for the eradication of chemical weapons and all weapons of mass destruction in The Hague on Wednesday.

Unilateralism, selective approaches, discrimination, and undermining international treaties will definitely weaken the credibility of international disarmament and non-proliferation treaties, Mottaki said in a speech to the eleventh meeting of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).

"We deeply believe that chemical weapons must absolutely not be used. The perpetrators of such crimes must not escape unpunished," he added.

During its 1980-1988 war against Iran, the previous Iraqi regime used chemical weapons against Iranian military forces and civilians, he noted.

"Those who provided Saddam (Hussein) with such inhumane weapons must be brought to justice," he stated.

The Middle East is one of the few regions in which chemical weapons were used after World War II, he pointed out, adding that the dismantlement of chemical weapons would definitely help promote security in the region.

Israel, which possesses weapons of mass destruction, specifically nuclear and chemical weapons, is the main threat to regional and world peace, the foreign minister asserted.

"Let's join hands to rid the world of WMDs to bring peace and justice for all… and make the world a safer place for the current and future generations," Mottaki said.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 07:57 pm
blueflame1 wrote:
Iran FM calls for eradication of all WMDs

Tehran Times Political Desk
TEHRAN -- Iranian Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mottaki called for the eradication of chemical weapons and all weapons of mass destruction in The Hague on Wednesday.

...


"Let's join hands to rid the world of WMDs to bring peace and justice for all, and make the world a safer place for the current and future generations," Mottaki said.

Yes, that should make it easier for the Iranians to achieve their frequently stated goal of removing Israel from the middle east.

I've got a better idea!

Let's join hands to rid the world of totalitarians, like the current leadership of Iran, to bring peace and justice for all, and make the world a safer place for the current and future generations.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 7 Dec, 2006 03:28 pm
Setanta wrote:
Do a little web searching on Hezbollah some time, McG--educate yourself. Hezbollah, as a political party, enjoys some respect in the Lebanon because of their social programs and their hospitals, and they even run their own television network. But the Lebanese are a damned sight better informed than you are, and have never given them any real political power in the Parliament. According to the CIA fact book, more than half of the Lebanese are Muslims, yet "the Party of God" has only 14 seats out of 128 in the Parliament. The Lebanese are able to understand the distinction between the civil branch of Hezbollah and the military. However, just as most American conservatives can be bothered to distinguish between one Muslim and another, they don't seem to understand that Hezbollah has three faces--one is political, one is military, and the most insidious is their international terrorist organization, second to none. Go back and read the material i linked, even the Director of Central Intelligence doesn't believe Israel can destroy Hezbollah. This latest exercise did Hezbollah more good than harm, and made things much, much worse for Israeli and Lebanese civilians.


Setanta wrote:
If you acknowledge that the Lebanese government is weak, how do you propose that they rid themselves of one of the two most powerful terrorist organizations in the world? You contradict yourself right and left. If Hezbollah, with its paltry 14 seats in the Parliament is responsible, as you claim, for national policy, by your own criterion, they would easily be able to prevent the government from acting. You can't seem to keep your arguments straight.


I conjectured that Hezbollah has a lot more power in Lebanon then they let on. Setanta gave a lecture on how, yes, they were very powerful militarily, but in actuality had little sway politically.

Quote:


The leader of the Lebanese Shia group Hezbollah, said that the opposition will not back down in its mass protests to bring down the Western-backed government.

Hassan Nasrallah re-iterated his demand for a unity government and called for a huge protest on Sunday in central Beirut to intensify the pressure on Fouad Siniora, the prime minister.

Nasrallah said: "Those who are betting on our surrender are having an illusion.

"We insist on our demands, for the formation of a real government of national unity... because it is the only means to prevent any foreign tutelage on Lebanon, so that we have Lebanese decision-making."

Tariq Mitri, the Lebanese interim foreign minister, told Al Jazeera there were other ways of going about political change.

He said: "We need to get back to the political process."

'Peaceful and civilised'

Nasrallah's speech was broadcast live on two big screens to thousands of cheering opposition protesters who have gathered since Friday outside the government's offices in central Beirut.

Nasrallah said that the protest was "peaceful, civil and civilised," and pledged that the death of a 20-year-old Shia opposition supporter after violence on Sunday would not lead the protesters to violence.

He said: "When they killed Ahmed Mahmud, they wanted to push us to clashes... I tell them... we refuse civil war and discord."

The influential Hezbollah leader last addressed his followers on the eve of a mass protest that saw hundreds of thousands of flag-waving demonstrators take to the streets on Friday.

Rejected demands

The opposition called Wednesday on Lebanese to "participate en masse in a demonstration Sunday in central Beirut at 3 pm [1300 GMT] in the hope that this will be a historic day on which our voices are heard".

The opposition, made up mainly of Christian and Shia factions, no longer recognises the government after six pro-Syrian ministers resigned last month.

The government, backed by an anti-Syrian parliament majority elected in 2005, has rejected repeated demands from Hezbollah and its allies for increased representation which would give them an effective veto in the cabinet.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 06:53 am
Can the Lebanese gov't hold off Hizbullah?


Quote:
Sharp Sunni-Shiite Attacks Deepen Sectarian Strife
The never-ending political deadlock has taken the country into deep sectarian split, with Shiite and Sunni leaders exchanging hard-hitting attacks amid Hizbullah's stepped up challenge to overthrow Premier Fouad Saniora's government.

Saniora on Friday struck back at Hizbullah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah for unleashing a cluster of accusations against him and the ruling majority.

He accused Nasrallah of threatening a coup, after the Shiite leader pledged to his supporters in a fiery speech Thursday that the anti-government alliance will "not surrender," and that they will achieve "victory."

"There can be no victory by one Lebanese group on the other," Saniora calmly commented on Nasrallah's words. "Lebanon should be victorious."

Despite the trade of sharp words, both Saniora and Nasrallah have said that the doors are still open for negotiations.

"Our hand and heart is open," Saniora said Friday. "We will continue the search for a settlement."

"We won't dig trenches in Beirut streets; we will build bridges of love among the Lebanese, Christian and Muslim," he added.

Nasrallah also said in his Thursday speech that "we will leave our doors open for talks or initiatives."

Nasrallah hailed a proposal for a solution made by the influential Maronite Church which called Wednesday for the formation of an "accord government" and early elections to replace President Emile Lahoud.
The proposal "has a lot of positive elements and is worth considering," Nasrallah said.

Elsewhere in Beirut, the spiritual leader of the Sunnis in Lebanon has backed the government and told worshippers demands by the anti-government Hizbullah coalition would not be met.

"Bringing down the government and prime minister in the street is a red line which we will never allow," Sheik Mohammed Rashid Qabbani said in a Friday sermon at a Sunni mosque in Tarik Jedideh.

But another Sunni cleric, Fathi Yakan, who supports Hizbullah, led protesters in prayer in downtown Beirut.

"Your sit-in today, with God's help, will defeat the American project," Yakan said, accusing the U.S. of sowing division between Shiites and Sunnis in the Islamic world.

Saniora, who has received strong Western and Arab support, repeated that Hizbullah's protests, now in their second week, would not force his resignation.

Hizbullah and its allies have called for a mass protest Sunday, saying it will mark an escalation in their attempts to oust Saniora.

The predominantly Hizbullah-led demonstrators have not said what they plan to do next, but some Lebanese newspapers have hinted that they might call for civil disobedience or escalate street protests, disrupting vital utilities such as Beirut airport and port. So far, however, Nasrallah has stressed that his supporters must demonstrate peacefully.

Deep political tensions in Lebanon and street fights in Beirut have left one person killed and 24 people wounded, raising fears of a return to sectarian strife in a country still reeling from the 1975-1990 civil war.(Naharnet-AP-AFP)


Beirut, 09 Dec 06, 09:15


Source
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 07:13 am
Brand X wrote:
Can the Lebanese gov't hold off Hezbollah?


The Lebanese Government refers to Hizballah not as a Lebanese militia, but as a "national resistance group".

It has become the most powerful military force in Lebanon, but also has 23 of the 128 seats in parliament, with two seats in the Lebanese cabinet.

The latter does it make a bit impossible to answer your question.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 07:31 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Brand X wrote:
Can the Lebanese gov't hold off Hezbollah?


The Lebanese Government refers to Hizballah not as a Lebanese militia, but as a "national resistance group".

It has become the most powerful military force in Lebanon, but also has 23 of the 128 seats in parliament, with two seats in the Lebanese cabinet.

The latter does it make a bit impossible to answer your question.


Yes, poor technical wording on my part, but you get my meaning.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 07:35 am
Brand X wrote:

Yes, poor technical wording on my part, but you get my meaning.


Not really.

Do you mean that the government should ignore the last election? Or just ignore those ministers?

Or should they form a new coalition or call for new elections?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 11:36 am
The Bush form of democracy is quite convoluted; Iraq had an election, but Bush still wants to control their government.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 07:38 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
The Bush form of democracy is quite convoluted; Iraq had an election, but Bush still wants to control their government.


Yes! Bush wants the government of Iraq to as soon as possible assume full responsibility for protecting its own citizens.

Gad, what a conniving evil dictator Bush is! How can he be so inhuman? How can the man live with himself harboring that kind of rotten stinking motivation? What a terrible example he is to our youth!


Rolling Eyes Sorosiks are looney!
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 10 Dec, 2006 07:36 am
I posted this on the Jimmy Carter's book thread, but it is so pertinent to this thread I am putting it here too:

(Emphasis mine in the piece following)
The World According to Jimmy Carter
by Alan Dershowitz

I like Jimmy Carter. I have known him since he began his run for president in early 1976. I worked hard for his election, and I have admired the work of the Carter Center throughout the world. That's why it troubles me so much that this decent man has written such an indecent book about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

His bias against Israel shows by his selection of the book's title: "Palestine: Peace not Apartheid." The suggestion that without peace Israel is an apartheid state analogous to South Africa is simply wrong. The basic evil of South African apartheid, against which I and so many other Jews fought, was the absolute control over a majority of blacks by a small minority of whites. It was the opposite of democracy. In Israel majority rules; it is a vibrant secular democracy, which just today recognized gay marriages performed abroad. Arabs serve in the Knesset, on the Supreme Court and get to vote for their representatives, many of whom strongly oppose Israeli policies. Israel has repeatedly offered to end its occupation of areas it captured in a defensive war in exchange for peace and full recognition. The reality is that other Arab and Muslim nations do in fact practice apartheid. In Jordan, no Jew can be a citizen or own land. The same is true in Saudi Arabia, which has separate roads for Muslims and non-Muslims. Even in the Palestinian authority, the increasing influence of Hamas threatens to create Islamic hegemony over non-Muslims. Arab Christians are leaving in droves.

Why then would Jimmy Carter invoke the concept of apartheid in his attack on Israel? Even he acknowledges--though he buries this toward the end of his book--that what is going on in Israel today "is unlike that in South Africa--not racism, but the acquisition of land." But Israel's motive for holding on to this land is the prevention of terrorism. It has repeatedly offered to exchange land for peace and did so in Gaza and southern Lebanon only to have the returned land used for terrorism, kidnappings and rocket launchings.

I don't know why Jimmy Carter, who is generally a careful man, allowed so many errors and omissions to blemish his book. Here are simply a few of the most egregious. •• Carter emphasizes that "Christian and Muslim Arabs had continued to live in this same land since Roman times," but he ignores the fact that Jews have lived in Hebron, Tzfat, Jerusalem, and other cities for even longer. Nor does he discuss the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Jews from Arab countries since 1948.

•• Carter repeatedly claims that the Palestinians have long supported a two-state solution and the Israelis have always opposed it. Yet he makes no mention of the fact that in 1938 the Peel Commission proposed a two-state solution with Israel receiving a mere sliver of its ancient homeland and the Palestinians receiving the bulk of the land. The Jews accepted and the Palestinians rejected this proposal, because Arab leaders cared more about there being no Jewish state on Muslim holy land than about having a Palestinian state of their own.

•• He barely mentions Israel's acceptance, and the Palestinian rejection, of the U.N.'s division of the mandate in 1948.

•• He claims that in 1967 Israel launched a preemptive attack against Jordan. The fact is that Jordan attacked Israel first, Israel tried desperately to persuade Jordan to remain out of the war, and Israel counterattacked after the Jordanian army surrounded Jerusalem, firing missiles into the center of the city. Only then did Israel capture the West Bank, which it was willing to return in exchange for peace and recognition from Jordan.

•• Carter repeatedly mentions Security Council Resolution 242, which called for return of captured territories in exchange for peace, recognition and secure boundaries, but he ignores the fact that Israel accepted and all the Arab nations and the Palestinians rejected this resolution. The Arabs met in Khartum and issued their three famous "no's": "No peace, no recognition, no negotiation" but you wouldn't know that from reading the history according to Carter.

•• Carter faults Israel for its "air strike that destroyed an Iraqi nuclear reactor" without mentioning that Iraq had threatened to attack Israel with nuclear weapons if they succeeded in building a bomb.

•• Carter faults Israel for its administration of Christian and Muslim religious sites, when in fact Israel is scrupulous about ensuring every religion the right to worship as they please--consistant, of course, with security needs. He fails to mention that between 1948 and 1967, when Jordan occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem, the Hashemites destroyed and desecrated Jewish religious sites and prevented Jews from praying at the Western Wall. He also never mentions Egypt's brutal occupation of Gaza between 1949 and 1967.

•• Carter blames Israel, and exonerates Arafat, for the Palestinian refusal to accept statehood on 95% of the West Bank and all of Gaza pursuant to the Clinton-Barak offers of Camp David and Taba in 2000-2001. He accepts the Palestinian revisionist history, rejects the eye-witness accounts of President Clinton and Dennis Ross and ignores Saudi Prince Bandar's accusation that Arafat's rejection of the proposal was "a crime" and that Arafat's account "was not truthful"--except, apparently, to Carter. The fact that Carter chooses to believe Yasir Arafat over Bill Clinton speaks volumes.

•• Carter's description of the recent Lebanon war is misleading. He begins by asserting that Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers. "Captured" suggest a military apprehension subject to the usual prisoner of war status. The soldiers were kidnapped, and have not been heard from--not even a sign of life. The rocket attacks that preceded Israel's invasion are largely ignored, as is the fact that Hezbollah fired its rockets from civilian population centers.

•• Carter gives virtually no credit to Israel's superb legal system, falsely asserting (without any citation) that "confessions extracted through torture are admissible in Israeli courts," that prisoners are "executed" and that the "accusers" act "as judges." Even Israel's most severe critics acknowledge the fairness of the Israeli Supreme Court, but not Carter.

•• Carter even blames Israel for the "exodus of Christians from the Holy Land," totally ignoring the Islamization of the area by Hamas and the comparable exodus of Christian Arabs from Lebanon as a result of the increasing influence of Hezbollah and the repeated assassination of Christian leaders by Syria.

•• Carter also blames every American administration but his own for the Mideast stalemate with particular emphasis on "a submissive White House and U.S. Congress in recent years." He employs hyperbole and overstatement when he says that "dialogue on controversial issues is a privilege to be extended only as a reward for subservient behavior and withheld from those who reject U.S. demands." He confuses terrorist states, such as Iran and Syria to which we do not extend dialogue, with states with whom we strongly disagree, such as France and China, with whom we have constant dialogue.

I hope President Carter will seriously consider addressing these omissions and mistakes. He begins his book tour soon and he will have an opportunity to correct the record.
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