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ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

 
 
Brand X
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 12:40 pm
To my recollection Israel has gone about this a lot softer than they usually do....very restrained.

Hezbollah have their citizens all around them that they've used Iranian money for to build the communities and help the needy so they can recruit for their cause on the front end, then get double the support from them on the backend when someone takes action against terrorist acts by Hezbollah.

These 'innocent' civilians who live amongst the missiles and terrorist get killed in effect by the hand that feeds them. You want to talk about collateral damage eh, how about expendable human sheilds.(from Hezbollah's standpoint)

Again Israel has been attacked so many times they are prepared for it, over one million Israelis can retreat to bombshelters, it's not their fault that Hezbollah doesn't build shelters for it's citizens knowing full well they would someday instigate an attack.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 12:52 pm
Revel, when I see post after post condemning Hezbolah and other terrorist groups as I see your post after post condemning Israel, I'll believe you are sincere that you blame Hezbollah just as much as you do Israel. And Israel did not start this fight.

You write
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I think they should have better intelligence to tell them where Hezbollah were located and where their weapons were located before killing and destroying a country.


And did you read anything that has been posted here about how Hezbollah operates and where they hide their weapons. How do you propose to get that intelligence without going from house to house? Meanwhile hundreds and hundreds of Hezbollah rockets are raining down indiscriminately on your neighborhoods killing your civilian men, women, and children. What do you do?

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I would have got corporation with the Lebanese government and maybe their help with getting rid of Hezbollah.


Well your favorite President, Bill Clinton, tried his best as has been well documented here. And our current President has tried his best as has also been well documented. It is now apparent that both failed. So tell us so we can advise the President how to go about it. How do you do that?

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I don't know surely there would have a thousand better things to do that smart people who are paid to that sort of thing and could have saved lives. I don't know squat about military matters but I don't think you just blindly run through a country killing everything in sight. You keep going on about how they are trying to keep the death down, but I have seen no evidence of it.


If you think Israel is "blindly running through a country killing everything in sight" then I think you need to have your own eyes checked because you sure are seeing the reality of the situation or what Israel is doing.

And if you don't know what you would do, how can you be so certain that Israel is doing it all wrong?

I prevously mentioned a very reasonable discussion on this with Craven on another thread. He had some very astute comments on proportionality and I respect his view on that. But nevertheless, if you have had rockets periodically fired into your civilian neighborhoods by a terrorist organization in the past, and the cease fires you have agreed to have not stopped the carnage, and thousands more rockets remain to be fired at you, what do you do?
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 12:54 pm
By law, every home in Israel must have a bomb shelter. Israel is attacked even when it is not a party to the war, such as in the first gulf war.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 12:55 pm
Advocate wrote:
Blue tells us that Hamas and Hezbollah have flirted with the idea of recognizing Israel. What they insist must happen is the right of return of the Palestinians who left Israel in 1948. This would not be just the 700,000 who left, but the 4,000,000 who now say they have the right to return. This, of course, would be the end of Israel.

We are told here how Israel is out to kill innocent Lebanese. Then why does Israel drop leaflets to warn residents to leave areas that will be bombed?

It is just so terrible how Israel defends itself. Israelis should just turn the other cheek as we do.


People (Advocate being one of them) have used the fact that Israel drops leaflets telling civilians to evacuate areas before some attacks, as evidence of Israel's deire to avoid civilian casualities.

Can the pedlers of this nonsense tell me how people are supposed to move when the roads, bridges and airports have been destroyed and the ports are blockaded ? How do you move thousands of people when you can't travel any way but walking ? Residents in the Shia suberbs of Beirut, have been told to evacuate, but they can't. They are sheltering in schools 8-900 in a school designed for 150 pupils.

The leaflets drops are just propaganda, they enable the Israeli's to say "look we are trying to minimise casualities.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 01:00 pm
freedom4free wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Blue tells us that Hamas and Hezbollah have flirted with the idea of recognizing Israel. What they insist must happen is the right of return of the Palestinians who left Israel in 1948. This would not be just the 700,000 who left, but the 4,000,000 who now say they have the right to return. This, of course, would be the end of Israel.

We are told here how Israel is out to kill innocent Lebanese. Then why does Israel drop leaflets to warn residents to leave areas that will be bombed?

It is just so terrible how Israel defends itself. Israelis should just turn the other cheek as we do.


People (Advocate being one of them) have used the fact that Israel drops leaflets telling civilians to evacuate areas before some attacks, as evidence of Israel's deire to avoid civilian casualities.

Can the pedlers of this nonsense tell me how people are supposed to move when the roads, bridges and airports have been destroyed and the ports are blockaded ? How do you move thousands of people when you can't travel any way but walking ? Residents in the Shia suberbs of Beirut, have been told to evacuate, but they can't. They are sheltering in schools 8-900 in a school designed for 150 pupils.

The leaflets drops are just propaganda, they enable the Israeli's to say "look we are trying to minimise casualities.


So F4F, if its the enemy of your country being resupplied by Syria aka Iran and hundreds of rockets have been fired into your civilian neighborhoods and thousands more remain to be fired, what do you do?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 01:11 pm
Advocate wrote:
By law, every home in Israel must have a bomb shelter. Israel is attacked even when it is not a party to the war, such as in the first gulf war.


No - see e.g. here (2nd report).
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 01:22 pm
revel wrote:
You don't become that which you fight and that is exactly what Israel is doing in Lebanon and has been doing in Palestine for ages.

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Monday, July 24, 2006

Israelis Kill 8, wound 45 on Sunday
Strike Clinic, Ambulance, Factories, Minibus, Journalist
Hizbullah Rockets Hit Haifa, Kill 2

The Daily Star reports that


"Israeli warplanes continued their bombardment of Lebanon on Sunday, killing at least eight and wounding 45, as Hizbullah gave the Lebanese government the green light to negotiate on its behalf for a prisoner swap with Israel . . . "The Lebanese government will lead the exchange through the intermediary of a third party. This has been accepted by Hizbullah," Speaker Nabih Berri said Sunday. . .

Meanwhile the Israeli offensive continued for the 12th straight day, bringing the overall death toll to at least 380 with over 1,000 wounded, according to Lebanese authorities."



Jan Egeland, the United Nations undersecretary general for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator, said Sunday after touring South Beirut that most of the victims of Israel's attacks on Lebanon have been civilians, and that children are dying.

Israelis fired a missile that killed a Lebanese photographer who worked for The Bell magazine and for Agence France Presse, Layal Najib, 23.

An Israeli air strike killed 3 and wounded 13 when it hit a minibus "carrying 16 people fleeing the village of Tairi as it worked its way through the mountains from the Southern port city of Tyre . . . The Israeli military had told residents of Tairi and 12 other nearby villages Saturday to evacuate by 7 p.m. The villages form a corridor about 6 kilometers wide and 18 kilometers deep, believed to be the "buffer zone" desired by Israel."

I have noted before that it isn't very nice to make people leave their homes and then bomb them as they leave.

For more on the gauntlet that Israel is making innocent Lebanese civilians run in the south, see this article.

Lebanese television reported another 4 persons killed by Israeli air strikes in the south. Air raids on towns and villages around Tyre on Sunday left 45 wounded.

The Israelis also bombed south Beirut again. It is a pro-Hizbullah area, but its inhabitants are civilians.

On Sunday, Israel hit the Southern port city of Sidon for the first time, destroying a complex of buildings that contained clinics and service offices and was linked to Hizbullah, wounding four people. More than 5,000 people have sought refuge in the city from other Southern villages.

The Daily Star reports,


Israel also targeted Hizbullah's power base in the Bekaa Valley, hitting three factories, a house and bridges and roads. The air strikes ignited large fires, killed at least one civilian and wounded two others.

Three rescuers from the Civil Defense personnel of the Islamic Scout Mission, an association affiliated with the Amal Movement, were wounded after Israeli air raids struck their ambulance as it transported wounded civilians to nearby hospitals, according to Hassan Hamdan, the association's official in the South."


If the latter report is correct, and if the ambulance was marked as such, this strike was an Israeli war crime. If the Biqa' factories were not producing war materiel, hitting them was a war crime, too.

Hizbullah confirmed that the Israeli military had occupied the Lebanese village of Maroun al-Ra's in the south near the Israeli border, but gloated over how difficult the conquest had been:


"The enemy is deceiving its own people and the world by presenting the occupation of Maroun al-Ras as a great military achievement," a Hizbullah statement said. "An army using its elite forces and tanks backed by its air force that can enter a frontier village only after days of fighting ... is a defeated and useless army."

"Our steadfast fighters have presented through the Maroun al-Ras confrontations and the losses of the enemy - in troops, tanks and helicopters - an example of what the confrontations will be in every town, village and position," it said.



The Israeli narrative of the battle agrees that too many Israeli soldiers were lost (7) or wounded in the taking of Maroun al-Ra's, in part because of too much haste and poor tactical decisions (operating in broad daylight, letting individual tanks get isolated). Between 2 and 4 times as many Hizbullah fighers died. JP says the next challenge is to take Bint Jbail, a major Hizbullah stronghold.

The Chicago Tribune reports that Israeli troops found the Hizbullah fighters tenacious, and expect difficult battles ahead as they forge deeper into Lebanon. Joel Greenberg reports,


'Sitting on the Merkava tank he commands, Assaf, 22, who gave only his first name, said his force had destroyed two abandoned Hezbollah positions across the border and was facing a "serious" adversary, which has used mines and anti-tank rockets to battle the Israeli armor. Dudi Mizrahi, 21, the tank driver, said Hezbollah had been pushed back from the border but was capable of putting up a determined fight. "They're very small, but very, very stubborn," he said. "If there is a deeper incursion, there will definitely be resistance. They're hiding in bunkers, and they come out, fire a Katyusha rocket and go back in. They're holding up." '


Billmon quotes sources that do not believe the war is going at all well for Israel. Despite bombing Lebanon back to the stone age, they had not stopped the rocket attacks of Hizbullah, and taking a single village was costly for them. Billmon does not mention another element in the losing of the war, which is that aside from the US congress and the usual pundits in the US, most people in the world don't seem to approve of the Israeli wholesale destruction of a whole country. I don't think they were counting on those thousands of evacuees getting this kind of television coverage. They are used to controlling communications in Gaza and the West Bank and did not count on how intertwined Lebanon is with the world information system. (Hence their recent attacks on internet servers.)

Greenberg also reports on continued Hizbullah rocket strikes on northern Israel on Sunday:


'More than 90 rockets were fired at cities and towns across northern Israel on Sunday, killing two people and wounding several others in the port city of Haifa and a neighboring suburb. One of the dead was a motorist, killed in his car by shrapnel; another was a worker in a carpentry shop wrecked by the rocket blast. A couple in another suburb were saved when they took shelter in a bombproof room before a rocket slammed into their home. '


Some readers have asked why I characterize Hizbullah's rocket launches as war crimes. It is because the Geneva Convention requires that in war you have to aim at enemy combatants. You can't deliberately target civilians, and you can't endanger civilians unnecessarily. The Hizbullah rockets have poor targeting, and so just firing them endangers civilians. The rockets themselves have apparently killed almost no Israeli troops, and almost all their victims have been innocent civilians, like that poor man who was just driving along in or near Haifa. That is, the Hizbullah rockets have been fired indiscriminately (the only way they can be fired) and mainly hit civilian targets, which a prudent person could foresee. Bingo. War crime.

See the statement of the International Commission of Jurists.

See also The Fourth Geneva Convention:

There is actually an argument to be made that both Hizbullah and Israel have taken the civilian population of their enemy hostage. Since hostage-taking is forbidden, both are war criminals. I heard former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski make a similar argument at a salon dinner in Washington, DC, last week, though the wording above is my own.


http://www.juancole.com/

Notice he is balanced in both Israel and Lebanon.


You honestly think this is balanced? Where is the information that Hezbollah initiated hostilities? Where is the information that this isn't the first time Hezbollah has initiated hostilities? Where is the information on Israeli civilian deaths and the fact that Hezbollah continues to fire rockets into Israel at a periodically steady and deadly rate?

If you're looking for balance, you need to see the grief of the Jewish mother too.
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 01:33 pm
I suggest you read it again foxfrye. He does tell about the deaths of Israelis and Hazbollah firing rockets. Jaun Cole is on going daily blog, he previously mentioned how it all started. What's with the grieving Jewish mother, does he mention a grieving Lebanese mother? I must of missed it.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 01:37 pm
revel wrote:
I suggest you read it again foxfrye. He does tell about the deaths of Israelis and Hazbollah firing rockets. Jaun Cole is on going daily blog, he previously mentioned how it all started. What's with the grieving Jewish mother, does he mention a grieving Lebanese mother? I must of missed it.


You're right. He does mention Israeli deaths and Hezbollah firing rockets. Show me where he mentions that Hezbollah started it or criticizes anybody but Israel for its tactics. Show me where he even suggests Israel is acting in self defense. Show me how this is not a piece to generate criticism of Israel and sympathy of Hezbollah?

One thing that came up in that previous discussion I mentioned was the question of whether civilians who harbor, hide, feed, protect, and/or tolerate terrorists among them are themselves in fact civilian? Anyone who would intentionally put a child at risk in a war to me is beneath the greatest possible contempt.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 01:45 pm
Brand X wrote:
To my recollection Israel has gone about this a lot softer than they usually do....very restrained.

Hezbollah have their citizens all around them that they've used Iranian money for to build the communities and help the needy so they can recruit for their cause on the front end, then get double the support from them on the backend when someone takes action against terrorist acts by Hezbollah.

These 'innocent' civilians who live amongst the missiles and terrorist get killed in effect by the hand that feeds them. You want to talk about collateral damage eh, how about expendable human sheilds.(from Hezbollah's standpoint)

Again Israel has been attacked so many times they are prepared for it, over one million Israelis can retreat to bombshelters, it's not their fault that Hezbollah doesn't build shelters for it's citizens knowing full well they would someday instigate an attack.


All pertinent points BrandX. It boggles the mind that some actually think a war should be fought fair. Some think it isn't fair that the country that is defending itself has more guns, better planes, and more bomb shelter than the people who attacked it.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 01:49 pm
Advocate
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So F4F, if its the enemy of your country being resupplied by Syria aka Iran and hundreds of rockets have been fired into your civilian neighborhoods and thousands more remain to be fired, what do you do?


The question should be why are they the 'enemy' and why are they attacking ?

So you really wana know hey ? here's an article from Online Journal, read it all and read it carefully.

The 'Roadmap' to Palestinian ghettos
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 01:56 pm
Israel has killed about 350 Lebanese. If it wanted to, it could have killed 350,000 with little trouble. So much for targeting innocent Lebanese!

I see the PM of Lebanon crying for his country. But has he even once called upon Hezbollah to surrender the kidnapped soldiers and/or stop the rocketing of Israel.

Israel never attacked Lebanon until Arafat made it into an outpost to attack Israel. Later, Hezbollah was formed by Syria and Iran to continue the fight against Israel. The leaders of Lebanon have never asked to sit down with Israel and talk peace.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 02:17 pm
I must admit to having scanned through the last 30 or 40 posts, but I say again ISRAEL IS GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 02:18 pm
Advocate wrote:

I see the PM of Lebanon crying for his country. But has he even once called upon Hezbollah to surrender the kidnapped soldiers and/or stop the rocketing of Israel.


I suppose, it's the minimum what a PM can do, crying for his country.

Siniora is since 30 June 2005 Prime Minister.
UNIFIL's task is "to help the Lebanese Government restore its effective authority in the area".
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Brand X
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 02:52 pm
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I see the PM of Lebanon crying for his country. But has he even once called upon Hezbollah to surrender the kidnapped soldiers and/or stop the rocketing of Israel.


In the early days of this conflict this rat was asked twice point blank in one interview if he would denounce Hezbollah and their actions, he wouldn't do it.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 03:06 pm
I wonder how many shuttles Hezbollah provided for their evacuating citizens and how much humanitarian aid, and if they provided a place for their fleeing flock to go live until it's safe.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 04:05 pm
Most of Israel's targets in Lebanon serve none of its stated goals

By Marc J Sirois
Daily Star staff
Tuesday, July 25, 2006

One day it might be slightly - but darkly - funny to look back on Israel's rationalizations for its target choices during the offensive against Lebanon that began on July 12. Right now, though, for those who can look at the facts on the ground through anything other than a prism supplied by "poor little Israel," the more common reactions are confusion, fear and outrage.

The Jewish state's official position is that it is destroying "terrorist infrastructure" as a means of (in no particular order, for reasons which will shortly be evident); a) degrading the command and control and combat capabilities of Hizbullah; b) freeing the two Israeli soldiers whose capture sparked the disproportionate onslaught; and c) establishing a new "buffer zone" along the border to put northern Israel beyond the reach of most Hizbullah rockets.

It is hard to see how these goals can be furthered by a target list that has so far included a textile factory, a dairy, a glass factory, and a woodworking shop. A key component of the Jewish state's strategy is emerging: One of the world's most technologically sophisticated military organizations wants to make sure that no Hizbullah fighter can wear a T-shirt while he drinks milk from a proper tumbler while sitting at a wooden table. But the fighter might find some milk - and a usable receptacle therefore - and might be lactose-intolerant and suffer some kind of stomach problem after he drinks the "terrorist elixir," so pharmaceutical plants also need to be bombed in order to cut off his access to treatment. The fighter would then require considerable amounts of toilet tissue, which must explain why a paper factory was destroyed. He might call a friend to bring some, so cellular phone transmission networks must also be eliminated, and since the call might get through anyway, the friend must be denied mobility by blowing up gas stations. The Hizbullah man might also see a television ad for a home remedy, so broadcasting has to be hit, too, as well as grocery stores. In case the fighter is in a washroom equipped with a bidet (however unlikely), he must be prevented from using it, so water reservoirs are legitimate targets as well. And what if he calls an ambulance? Start knocking them out, too, and throw in a couple of hospitals for good measure.

If we assume that these kinds of facilities (and there have been dozens of others just as innocuous) are "terrorist infrastructure," perhaps it would be less time-consuming to enumerate those that are not. Hopefully someone can discern what these might be. One has to assume, after all, that at least some Hizbullah fighters like to smell flowers, for instance, so florists' shops are fair game. The same goes for just about anything human beings require for sustenance. Maybe, given the dietary restrictions followed by many practicing Muslims, alcohol is off-limits? But alcohol is not just an intoxicant. It's also an antiseptic, so anyone who stocks Johnny Walker on his shelves is hereby forewarned. How about pork farms? They seem safe right now, but give Israeli planners a few days to consider contingencies.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb

The sheer absurdity of Israel's excuses for targeting items that patently have no military value demands that such questions be asked. This is especially true in light of the sole nuance detectable in US reactions to the assault: President George W. Bush has stated that while he has no problem with the Jewish state's ravaging of Lebanon, he would like to make sure that the government of Prime Minister Fouad Siniora survives. The premise of Bush's theorem is typically cloudy, especially since there will be precious little for anyone to govern when this is all over, but also because the broadcasting targets have included FTV and LBC. FTV is affiliated with the Future Movement, the same Sunni organization whose MPs form the core of Siniora's support in Parliament. As for LBC, it is a staunch ally of the Christian politicians who joined the Future Movement to form the March 14 Forces whose very purpose has been to tilt Lebanon away from its former Syrian masters and seek accommodation with the United States. Targeting them necessarily reduces the ability of Siniora and his allies to make a variety of points that need very badly to be made about the national interest.

Does the destruction of such targets serve any of the goals the Jewish state has enunciated? The answer is mixed at best. Certainly, Hizbullah's capabilities have been reduced, but its fighters have provided spirited and apparently well-coordinated defense against Israeli ground incursions, and its rockets continue to exact some small measure of revenge for the devastation meted out in Lebanon. Obviously the two soldiers are no closer to being released, and while Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh has said that they are in good health, that could change if and when the Israeli Air Force flattens the wrong building. A buffer zone might still be established, but to what end? The only real protection for residents of northern Israel is not an armed presence that will try to keep Hizbullah out of rocket range, but a serious look at the party's very real grievances.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has said that a cease-fire will be of no use if it leaves in place the conditions that led to this war. All she needs to do now is get beyond the tired rhetoric about bogeymen and take a hard look at what those conditions really are.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 04:12 pm
Noone can touch Israel, they hold the 'holocaust card'


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UN official: Israel action illegal

Mon 24 Jul 2006

GETHIN CHAMBERLAIN AND BEN LYNFIELD
IN HAIFA

THE United Nations' top humanitarian official yesterday accused Israel of violating international law, as at least ten more civilians died on both sides of the Lebanese border and diplomatic efforts to end the conflict intensified.

Jan Egeland, seeing at first-hand the destruction in south Beirut, said civilians in Lebanon and northern Israel were paying a "disproportionate price" as Israel continued to target Hezbollah strongholds


"I hadn't believed it would be block by block levelled to the ground," he said. "A disproportionate response by Israel is a violation of international humanitarian law," he said.

But he noted that the suffering was not confined to the Lebanese side of the border. "This is a war where civilians pay a disproportionate price in Lebanon and northern Israel," he said.

"The rockets going into Israel have to stop. The enormous bombardment that we have seen here [Beirut] with one block after another being levelled has to stop."

He said he would ask Israel to open air, land and sea corridors to get aid to between half a million and a million people in need of assistance in Lebanon.

His comments came on a day when Israeli warplanes again pounded Lebanon and Hezbollah rockets crashed into the Israeli city of Haifa.

At least eight civilians died and 100 were wounded in south Lebanon, many of them in Tyre. A Lebanese photographer, Layal Najib, was killed near the southern village of Qana during an Israeli bombardment. She was the first fatality among journalists covering the war. A strike also hit a minibus carrying 16 people, the last vehicle in a convoy carrying fleeing villagers from Tairi, working their way through the mountains for the southern port city of Tyre.

Two people were killed and 70 wounded in Hezbollah attacks on Israel. Habib Awad, 52 became the third Israeli Arab citizen to die from a Hezbollah missile when he was killed in a furniture workshop in a Haifa suburb. The rocket crashed through the white corrugated plastic roof of the workshop and blew it apart.

"There was a siren and we ran," said owner David Sibony. "I called on everyone to run to the protected room. Everything flew, there was dust and dirt. There were wounded. When I ran out to look for my workers I saw one had been badly harmed. Six others were wounded. Habib was struck by the force of the explosion right at the entry to the protected room."

Meanwhile diplomatic efforts continued in an attempt to bring an end to the fighting. French foreign minister Philippe Douste-Blazy and Kim Howells, a British Foreign Office minister, both visited Haifa on diplomatic missions. Mr Howells was forced to go to a secure room six times due to the threat of air raids.

The British government found itself in a diplomatic tangle yesterday after Mr Howells criticised the bombardment of Lebanon, claiming that Israel's attacks were not "surgical strikes" against militants but were hurting ordinary people.

The Foreign Secretary, Margaret Beckett, appeared to offer qualified backing to Mr Howells, who was last night meeting senior ministers in Israel.

"What Kim is saying is that targeting Hezbollah is one thing and one understands why it is being done, but it is not working in the way that Israel had hoped and claimed that it was. And so that's why we have to continue to ... urge recognition of that danger on Israel."

Syrian deputy foreign minister Fayssal Mekdad said his country was ready for dialogue with the United States and wanted an immediate ceasefire.

http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1072192006
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 04:35 pm
GRAPHIC VIDEO - Lebanese Doctor Says 'Phosphorus Weapons' Cause Suffering

RAW STORY
Published: Monday July 24, 2006

[A note to readers: This news report, originally aired on CNN International, contains graphic images.]

CNN video correspondent, Karl Penhaul, follows a family that had been mistakenly caught in an Israeli air strike. The doctor treating the family says that there is phosphorus in the weapons that cause extremely painful burns on it's victims.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/VIDEO__Lebanese_Doctor_Says_Phosphorus_0724.html
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 04:36 pm
They save the pillow bombs for those enemies they like.
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