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Thoughts on gun control

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jul, 2006 01:23 pm
McTag wrote:
I believe he shot that robber in the back, after setting an ambush.


Ambushing and shooting in the back is also illegal in most parts of the US.

But it is legal in Texas last I knew.

I recall about 10 years ago when some guy in Texas was late on his payments and got his truck repossessed, and he set an ambush and killed the repo guy.

I think he lost his truck to the bank, but was not charged with killing the repo guy on the grounds that he thought he was ambushing a car thief.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 10:25 am
"...the repo guy..." , yea , that's another great move forward for
"civilized society" !
the way i see it , why not do away with police , courts and all those new-fangled ideas and have a weekly shootout at the "former" courthouse .
should save a lot of money and it's much quicker than relying on the courts !
(i'm taking cover now Shocked )
hbg
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 10:38 am
I'm surprised that's legal, even in Texas.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 04:56 pm
i know they used to hang horse-thieves ; is it now the 'death-penalty' for car-thieves ?
just wondering ...
hbg
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 07:49 pm
hamburger wrote:
i know they used to hang horse-thieves ; is it now the 'death-penalty' for car-thieves ?just wondering ...
hbg

Just speaking for myself here, as a motorist:
THAY DESERVE IT.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 08:06 pm
oralloy wrote:
McTag wrote:
I believe he shot that robber in the back, after setting an ambush.


Ambushing and shooting in the back is also illegal in most parts of the US.

It may be illegal in many jurisdictions
to shoot a robber in the back,
but ( speaking as a non-criminal ):
we owe a great debt of gratitude to those who DO
dispose of bad guys,
as thay will not be around to afflict the rest of us.

We shud REMEMBER that when serving jury duty.
David
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 08:26 pm
Damn.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 08:28 pm
Unbelievable Shocked
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 08:45 pm
Here's another stray thought for the benefit of the anti-gunners here...

There actually are pistols which you could hit things with at 100 yards, but dealing with them pretty much defeats the purpose of pistols. You'd need a wheelbarrow or a knapsack or briefcase to carry the things around with.

What about the ordinary pistol which the ordinary criminal or the ordinary citizen who gets one of these concealed carry permits might buy? What are the chances of hitting anything with it? The answer is that from twenty or thirty feet away the chances are reasonable, but it gets worse very quickly from there.

In particular, in any sort of a duel at 50 - 100 yards between a man with a (normal) pistol and a man with a modern compound bow, the man with the pistol is basically dead.

http://highcountryarchery.com/images/bows/bow06_swcg.jpg

http://highcountryarchery.com/bow_sidewindercg.htm

That would be a HighCountry bow with a carbonfibre riser and heat-treated limbs. Set at 80 lbs, it could shoot very close to 400 feet per second and, with a sight radius of 30" instead of the four or five inches of the typical pistol, could very easily hit a soccer ball at 100 yards. The arrow would be in flight less than a second, not appear to rise more than about five feat over the taret before falling into it, and the whole thing would make less noise than any kind of firearm with any kind of silencer.

And the only American laws which govern its use are the same laws which prohibit people from murdering eachother with knives and forks. Uncle Sam does not give a rat's ass about it.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 08:47 pm
Your point?
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 08:50 pm
Intrepid wrote:
Your point?


The point is that gun laws are basically assinine in more ways than most people could count. I mean, what is there that you WOULDN'T have to outlaw or ban if you follow this business to its logical conclusion?
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 08:51 pm
C'mon, Intrepid, keep up. His point is that the thinking man would use a composite bow in a duel to the death from 100 yards, of course. What are you thinking? It's so obvious and not weird or deviant thinking at all!!
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 08:56 pm
Oh, I get it. Carrying a bow that is several feet long with a deadly arrow (why not poison tipped for effect?) is much more deadly than the pistol that could be carried iin the pocket and shot at point blank range. What a fool I am for not seeing this logic.

I keep forgetting that we still have duels and such where somebody must die.

Rolling Eyes
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 09:01 pm
Now you've got it. And the poison tip would be a brilliant addition, I think.

Every modern, thinking man should be so equipped.

I'll bet a franchise of personalized, collapsible bows would be a megaseller.

They could have a slogan something like, "When shooting someone just doesn't express it, pierce those hearts with the nouveau bow!"
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 09:04 pm
Excellent suggestion. It would be like another "pocket fisherman". A folding, telescopic bow that can be carried discreetly in pocket or purse. Hmm, what to do about the arrow.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 09:07 pm
They could be decorative, and worn as part of a series of ensembles.
You know - vests with feathers hiding arrows; jackets with hidden quivers in the back...

Hey, we might make urban bow attacks the most trendy assault of the millenium....
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 09:20 pm
Here's another thing to look at:

http://aftershockarchery.com/

http://aftershockarchery.com/images/layout/hypershock_sm3.gif

That's the Aftershock mechanical broadhead, probably the most major advance in archery since the compound bow itself. I had a big deer take about four steps and then collapse like he'd had a stroke or heart attack with one of those last Fall; I mean, it didn't look like a bow kill at all and, in fact, the typical 30-caliber kill on a deer that size is not that clean.

Their website shows a girl with a 450-lb boar hog which she killed with a 45-lb compound bow and one of those:

http://aftershockarchery.com/images/prostaff/wohlfeil_1.jpg

and they claim they're geting 10-second kills on cape buffalo with their heavier points. Cape buffalo are notoriously hard to kill with large-caliber rifles.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 09:47 pm
Yeah, about time someone dealt with those pesky Cape Buffalo and Warthogs. They're a damn menace to civilisation...
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 10:11 pm
Laughing
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jul, 2006 10:11 pm
Woah, there....how did this loose talk about civilisation start up?
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