Thoughts on gun control

dyslexia wrote:

Were I still in Child Potection Services ...

Social worker.... that explains a lot.

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cjhsa wrote:

dyslexia wrote:
Were I still in Child Potection Services ...

Social worker.... that explains a lot.

Yes, yes it does.

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dyslexia wrote:

Were I still in Child Potection Services and came across you advocating
8 yr olds carrying withou direct adult supervision, I would file charges of child neglect/reckless endangerment as a felony.

Yeah ?
Does your contempt for the First Amendment
equal that for the Second Amendment ??

During the 1990s,
I saw a piece on Peter Jennings'
World News Tonight
wherein some kids aged 8 to 12 were interviewed
in the Northwest, in a news piece thay called
" The School Where the Children Must Bring Guns to School ";
apparently thay had been losing too many students
to the local fauna,
on the way to school.

They were required to bring rifles to school every day,
inasmuch as handguns were deemed
not to be sufficiently powerful.
( No ill effects were reported from
the students' firepower. )

SO Y DON 'T U SEE IF U CAN
GET FELONIOUS INDICTMENTS AGAINST
ABC TV NEWS ??
Lemme know how that works out !

David

P.S.:
I wonder whether your attack upon
the First Amendment,
or the Second Amendment,
wud expose u to civil or criminal liability under
( in pertinent part ):

UNITED STATES CODE
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 13 - CIVIL RIGHTS
§§ 241. Conspiracy against rights
If two or more persons conspire to injure,
oppress, threaten, or intimidate any inhabitant
of any State, Territory,
or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right
or privilege secured to him by
the Constitution or laws of the United States,
or because of his having so exercised the same; or ...

They shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned
not more than ten years, or both;
and if death results,
they shall be subject to imprisonment
for any term of years or for life.

§§ 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute,
ordinance, regulation, or custom,
willfully subjects any inhabitant of any State,
Territory, or District to the deprivation of any rights,
privileges, or immunities secured or protected
by the Constitution or laws of the United States, ...

shall be fined not more than $1,000
or imprisoned not more than one year, or both;
and if bodily injury results shall be fined
under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;
and if death results shall be subject to imprisonment for
any term of years or for life.

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

dyslexia wrote:
Were I still in Child Potection Services and came across you advocating
8 yr olds carrying withou direct adult supervision, I would file charges of child neglect/reckless endangerment as a felony.

Yeah ?
Does your contempt for the First Amendment
equal that for the Second Amendment ??

During the 1990s,
I saw a piece on Peter Jennings'
World News Tonight
wherein some kids aged 8 to 12 were interviewed
in the Northwest, in a news piece thay called
" The School Where the Children Must Bring Guns to School ";
apparently thay had been losing too many students
to the local fauna,
on the way to school.

They were required to bring rifles to school every day,
inasmuch as handguns were deemed
not to be sufficiently powerful.
( No ill effects were reported from
the students' firepower. )

Sounds like a figment of your fevered imagination to me, dave.

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dyslexia wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
The major complaint I have with you david (I've said this before) there are many gun owners on a2k , I got my first rifle at the age of 12, is that you are soooo obsessive that you give us normal gun owners a bad name
because of your psychotic rantings.

U wanna sling mud ??
Go ahead; see if I care.

U can focus on what YOU want
and I 'll draw attention to what I want.

I think that 's fair.
David

Mud slinging? ok whatever you think,
you remain psychotic.

OK, Doctor:
I CHALLENGE your diagnosis.

What has led u to this diagnosis ?
How did u formulate it ?
David

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Dartagnan wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
Were I still in Child Potection Services and came across you advocating
8 yr olds carrying withou direct adult supervision, I would file charges of child neglect/reckless endangerment as a felony.

Yeah ?
Does your contempt for the First Amendment
equal that for the Second Amendment ??

During the 1990s,
I saw a piece on Peter Jennings'
World News Tonight
wherein some kids aged 8 to 12 were interviewed
in the Northwest, in a news piece thay called
" The School Where the Children Must Bring Guns to School ";
apparently thay had been losing too many students
to the local fauna,
on the way to school.

They were required to bring rifles to school every day,
inasmuch as handguns were deemed
not to be sufficiently powerful.
( No ill effects were reported from
the students' firepower. )

Sounds like a figment of your fevered imagination to me, dave.

That is attributable to your emotions
and to your ideological prejudice.
David

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Also attributable to the fact that I lived in the NW then, as I do now.

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Dartagnan wrote:

Also attributable to the fact that I lived in the NW then, as I do now.

Did u check all the schools in the 1990s
qua their requirements of bringing guns to school ?

or are u just going by your gut
and your wishes ?

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

During the 1990s, I saw a piece on Peter Jennings'
World News Tonight wherein some kids aged 8 to 12 were interviewed
in the Northwest, in a news piece thay called " The School Where the Children Must Bring Guns to School "; apparently thay had been losing too many students to the local fauna, on the way to school.

They were required to bring rifles to school every day,

Here's the difference: You're talking about normal healthy places where kids learn to cope with life at an early age.

What Dyslexia and some of the others are talking about is their own surroundings, i.e. heavily de-moKKKer-rat infested places, where 95% of the population are heroin addicts and the other 50% are crack addicts, where the graveyard votes, where the schools mainly teach raping and pillaging, where driveby shootings are a major form of entertainment etc. etc. etc.

They can't picture a world in which guns are a normal healthy thing like cars or lawnmowers instead of an agency of mayhem, because they've never seen it.

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

Dartagnan wrote:
Also attributable to the fact that I lived in the NW then, as I do now.

Did u check all the schools in the 1990s
qua their requirements of bringing guns to school ?

or are u just going by your gut
and your wishes ?

No. Going by my knowledge of the region vs. your vague memory of what you saw on TV. With all due respect, you're not exactly a credible source around here.

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gungasnake wrote:

What Dyslexia and some of the others are talking about is their own surroundings, i.e. heavily de-moKKKer-rat infested places, where 95% of the population are heroin addicts and the other 50% are crack addicts, where the graveyard votes, where the schools mainly teach raping and pillaging, where driveby shootings are a major form of entertainment etc. etc. etc.

They can't picture a world in which guns are a normal healthy thing like cars or lawnmowers instead of an agency of mayhem, because they've never seen it.

Thanks for expanding on my previous comment. To me a gun is a tool. I can feed myself with it, or trim trees if I so desire. For just a few cents, I can trim trees it would cost hundreds of dollars to trim otherwise. Or, bring home hundreds of pounds of meat - and how awful it is to have to spend time in the woods waiting for dinner to walk by!!

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dyslexia wrote:

cjhsa wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
Were I still in Child Potection Services ...

Social worker.... that explains a lot.

Yes, yes it does.

I'm sure you approached it as a noble profession. In my family tree, social workers are looked upon as folks who needed a government agency to give them a job so they could feed themselves.

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Foxfyre wrote:

Intrepid wrote:
Specific. Paranoid people give me cause for alarm.

I believe that you mean this in theory. I also think in practice you would much prefer to be with CJ, Gunga, or David AND their guns when you were facing down a real threat to you and/or your loved ones' health, safety, or life via another human who didn't give a damn about you or your rights. The vast majority of us will never have to find out. But I think the small minority of victims don't really care about the big picture statistics. For them once is quite enough.

What you believe I mean and what I mean are miles apart. What you think I would prefer is what you prefer...not me. People who live in fear do not live...they exist. I would much rather live without that fear and take what comes without looking for the boogey man.

You and that group of gun loving, gun toting fanatics can live as you choose.

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Actually, most people who live without fear are dead. It's an emotion, in case you forgot.

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cjhsa wrote:

Actually, most people who live without fear are dead. It's an emotion, in case you forgot.

This is a stupid thing for anybody to say. Yes, fear is an emotion. Of course, only those with emotions would understand that. It is not necessarily an emotion that is in every thought of every waking hour as it seems to be in you and your buddies. The dead do not have emotions.

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How is it a stupid thing to say when you go on to support my thesis?

Go to bed Int.

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You should read more carfully.

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You should type more "carfully". Laughing

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Intrepid wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
Specific. Paranoid people give me cause for alarm.

I believe that you mean this in theory. I also think in practice you would much prefer to be with CJ, Gunga, or David AND their guns when you were facing down a real threat to you and/or your loved ones' health, safety, or life via another human who didn't give a damn about you or your rights. The vast majority of us will never have to find out. But I think the small minority of victims don't really care about the big picture statistics. For them once is quite enough.

What you believe I mean and what I mean are miles apart. What you think I would prefer is what you prefer...not me. People who live in fear do not live...they exist. I would much rather live without that fear and take what comes without looking for the boogey man.

You and that group of gun loving, gun toting fanatics can live as you choose.

Everybody would prefer to live without fear. I certainly would. But you're also ignoring the point I made which is, when you're facing an armed killer intent on doing you or yours grave bodily harm, the entire perspective of the anti0gun peacenik or any other form of pacifict is likely to change in a big hurry. That's the point I was making and you really didn't address it at all my friend.

Such occurrences are quite rare in most places; nonexistent in a few; all too common in others. But they do happen and often they happen to those who least expect it.

Do we live our lives in anticipation of such an event? Of course not. Is it stupid to be prepared for one. Not the way I see it. I would certainly prefer to be prepared for the rare and unexpected just in case than see another dozen or so school children slaughtered in cold blood.

Now if you want to tell me that you wouldn't appreciate intervention from even the likes of David or CJ or Gunga should you or your wife or kids or grandkids or anybody be faced with a quite unplesant fate at the hands of a killer or worse, okay. I can't say what you think for sure. But if that's what you'll say, I think that would put you in one of the tiniest minorities in the world.

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cjhsa wrote:

dyslexia wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
Were I still in Child Potection Services ...

Social worker.... that explains a lot.

Yes, yes it does.

I'm sure you approached it as a noble profession. In my family tree, social workers are looked upon as folks who needed a government agency to give them a job so they could feed themselves.

Ass*hole, if people didn't beat to death their 5 yr old during potty training or rape their 7 yr old because their wife was frigid, their wouldn't be a need for child protection services.

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