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Thoughts on gun control

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 04:54 pm
oralloy wrote:
I see Barrett is offering a semi-auto rifle chambered in 25MM.

http://www.barrettrifles.com/military/images/109b.jpg

Might be good for home defense.

25mm is about a one inch gun;
sounds like it is good for breaking your shoulder.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 2 Aug, 2006 07:22 pm
25mm! Holy crap! I think Mr. Nugent will want a custom built sidearm in this caliber.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 2 Aug, 2006 08:00 pm
Juss what I needs. A 4000 fps, armor peircing varmint gun. Ground hogs will fear me!.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 2 Aug, 2006 08:08 pm
So would the farmer 2000 yards away. Smile
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 05:32 pm
That is counterproductive;
even .44 magnum is too much, assuring overpenetration
with its waste of energy.

In my opinion,
.44 special is optimal,
hopefully discharging the fullness of its muzzle energy within the target
( with the assistance of hollowpointed slugs to put the brakes on ).
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 05:58 pm
Just joking OSD. I happen to know Ted's choice is a 10mm Glock 20, which can easily fire .40S&W without modification for cheaper target practice.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:10 pm
While you guys are expelling testosterone and comparing your dick sizes, I merely need a varmint gun that , using the old equation of F=Ma, I choose a .204 which , while firing at bout 3500 to 4000 fps, keeps a nice flat trajectory so I can reach out and "touch" groundhogs. These little bastards can drop a tractor axle if you arent careful in your fiels edge driving.

Besides, ground hog, although an acquired taste , is quite good to eat. Its like a fatty rabbit. (Those that reside within my fields are quite lucky to be ableto dine on alfalfa and high protein pasture grass.

My scope , specially made, has a surveying reticle in it so I can adjust level by comparing stadia distances built into the scope. I dont know why noone ever thought of this in commercial scopes. (Course most hunters are illiterate so they wouldnt be able to learn how to apply simple surveying math)
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:22 pm
25 MM? I think each owner is going to need local approval and a rather hefty tax for maintaining such a beast. Anything over .50 cal is in the same class as machine guns and rocket launchers.

No, I don't know how 12 ga gets excluded from the requirment.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:34 pm
roger wrote:

No, I don't know how 12 ga gets excluded from the requirment.


Maybe because if it wasn't nobody could find any ammo to hunt with?

Ted Kennedy and other retards would love that.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:35 pm
farmerman wrote:
While you guys are expelling testosterone and comparing your dick sizes, I merely need a varmint gun that , using the old equation of F=Ma, I choose a .204 which , while firing at bout 3500 to 4000 fps, keeps a nice flat trajectory so I can reach out and "touch" groundhogs. These little bastards can drop a tractor axle if you arent careful in your fiels edge driving.

Besides, ground hog, although an acquired taste , is quite good to eat. Its like a fatty rabbit. (Those that reside within my fields are quite lucky to be ableto dine on alfalfa and high protein pasture grass.

My scope , specially made, has a surveying reticle in it so I can adjust level by comparing stadia distances built into the scope. I dont know why noone ever thought of this in commercial scopes. (Course most hunters are illiterate so they wouldnt be able to learn how to apply simple surveying math)


That sounds cool. I know close to nothing about surveying, but I see how it could easily apply. Did you have that custom built?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:44 pm
Yeh, Dick Cheney's got a matched set of 12 gage Italian shot- guns. They wont let Bush handle a gun, hes so dim he might shoot some...oops
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:55 pm
Funny, I heard the locals just conjured up a new hunting season in Crawford.

http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/111921.jpg
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:59 pm
cj-you can have a reticle installed by a surveying equipt house. They would install the reticle, made at special diameters on either a "behind the objective" lens or some other way. It needs to be a calibrated one because the distance between the cross hair and the two "full Stadia" (upper and lower "cross hairs) are made to multiply your distance by 100. and an inner one that is 1000X. What I do is set some red and white painted posts out in the field. The red and white lines are exactly a foot so Im usually dead on when I adjust for distance. The trajectory of the .204 is less than 2"/1000ft. I have a 45 grain load with a standard powder load (dont ask me how many grainsof powder, my cousin makes the loads and I only get like a box a year). BUT, they are quite like little hammers, since a ground hog's skull is like a ceramic vase full of liver- pudding. I can often take a large part of their skull off with a shot, that way they dont recover . My, seems Im expelling testosterone too,
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 08:01 pm
What happens in Crawford, stays in Crawford. Looks like, whatever hes doin to her, they both are enjoying themselves. I thought Texas had a definition of deviant sexual intercourse?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 06:34 pm
roger wrote:
25 MM? I think each owner is going to need local approval and a rather hefty tax for maintaining such a beast.


The tax would be a single $200 payment.

The approval process is definitely a bureaucratic pain.



roger wrote:
No, I don't know how 12 ga gets excluded from the requirment.


Sporting use.

Clinton managed to unilaterally remove assault shotguns from the common marketplace when he directed the BATF to rule that they had no sporting use.
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 07:48 pm
Somehow, I had thought it was higher, but maybe I was thinking high as a percentage of cost of a good 1911 back in, say, 1970.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 09:56 pm
Self defense around the home.....

http://crimefilenews.blogspot.com/2006/03/humane-self-defense-for-women-who-live.html
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 10:12 pm
oralloy wrote:
roger wrote:
25 MM? I think each owner is going to need local approval and a rather hefty tax for maintaining such a beast.


The tax would be a single $200 payment.

The approval process is definitely a bureaucratic pain.



roger wrote:
No, I don't know how 12 ga gets excluded from the requirment.


Sporting use.

Clinton managed to unilaterally remove assault shotguns from the common marketplace when he directed the BATF to rule that they had no sporting use.

The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with sports.
That 's Y it does not protect possession of baseball gloves.
David
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 10:49 pm
farmerman wrote:
Yeh, Dick Cheney's got a matched set of 12 gage Italian shot- guns. They wont let Bush handle a gun, hes so dim he might shoot some...oops


Actually, Bush keeps Saddam Hussein's personal sidearm in his desk in the Oval Office.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 10:49 pm
roger wrote:
Somehow, I had thought it was higher, but maybe I was thinking high as a percentage of cost of a good 1911 back in, say, 1970.


Machineguns are higher in cost, because they stopped allowing civilians to own new ones, and the supply of used ones is finite.

But as far as sawed-off shotguns, silencers, and large bore destructive devices, the tax is just $200.

Exploding ammo would require a $200 tax and local approval for each individual round, so that would be more expensive.
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