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Thoughts on gun control

 
 
RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 10:39 pm
Death, will have death.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 10:44 pm
God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 10:59 pm
Only good injun is a dead injun.



(I figured what the hell-we're mouthing meaningless platitudes, so...)
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 11:05 pm
No need to aplogize, snood - yours is as good as any.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 11:07 pm
timberlandko wrote:
God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Webster
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 11:31 pm
RexRed wrote:
timberlandko wrote:
God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Webster




...don't quite get your point here, Rex...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 11:47 pm
snood wrote:
RexRed wrote:
timberlandko wrote:
God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Webster



...don't quite get your point here, Rex...


Numerology versus mathematics.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 11:49 pm
I didn't think about gun control at all while I dutifully read through Rex's entire link. Intreresting reading from the same era as Sam Colt. Confused
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 11:50 pm
long as it made sense to someone, I suppose...
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 03:39 am
Intrepid wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
You go from
cjhsa wrote:
Several people here have alluded to my association of guns with power.

This is true. When in the middle of nowhere in the woods, which I often am, and often with my wife and kids, all it takes is one mean SOB with a bad agenda to ruin your whole day, if not your life.

While staying aware is your first line of defense, being armed is a great equalizer and wonderful deterrent to criminals.


to baiting Question Question


Is it against the rules to discuss both hunting and self-defense in the same thread?


Which is baiting? Hunting or self-defence?


Hunting.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 06:44 am
"You can always get farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone"
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 08:59 am
By assuring an armed populace,
the Founders physically put sovereignty into the hands of the citizens.

US Supreme Ct Justice Joseph Story (1811-1845) said:
"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered
as the Palladium of the liberties of the republic
since it offers a strong moral check against usurpation and arbitrary power of the rulers;
and will generally...enable the people to resist and triumph over them."


His view was adopted by the US Supreme Ct in US v. MILLER,
together with that of Judge Thomas Cooley who reiterated that idea, adding:
"The meaning of the provision...is that the people ...
shall have the right to keep and bear arms
and they need no permission or regulation of law for the purpose."

The Constitution no more allows any government to control guns
than to edit the Bible or control who has one.

( It should be borne in mind that any conflict between the Constitution of 1787
[ e.g. interstate commerce clause ] and the Bill of Rights must be resolved
to favor the Bill of Rights because those rights were changes to the original instrument. )
David
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 09:03 am
Fire arms are for dueling...

Now a days we just call in an air strike...

I have always hated guns.

But they are necessary to end modern hostility toward free nations.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 09:29 am
RexRed wrote:
Fire arms are for dueling...

Thay are also suitable tools
for defense from robbery, burglary, murder etc.




Quote:

Now a days we just call in an air strike...

I have always hated guns.

But they are necessary to end modern hostility toward free nations.

I respect your right to choose your emotions,
but your emotions have no effect upon anyone 's rights.
( U did not allege that thay do. )
David
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 09:42 am
RexRed wrote:
Fire arms are for dueling...


I look at them as a tool, one particularly suitable for procuring dinner.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 10:13 am
cjhsa wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Fire arms are for dueling...


I look at them as a tool, one particularly suitable for procuring dinner.

Yes.
I am not a hunter,
but I was interested to read the writings of
Annie Oakley and of James Butler Hickok
( who did not meet until well into their adulthoods )
both of whom, at age 9,
were given rifles and told by their parents
not to return home without lunch.
Since their families liked to eat
on a regular basis, thay became good shots.
At 90 feet, Annie was known to shoot a dime tossed in midair,
or hit the edge of a playing card, then add five or six more holes
as it fluttered to the ground.

Annie 's aim was so accurate,
that, at his request, she knocked the ashes off a cigarette
held by the Crown Prince of Germany, the future Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Annie later joked that,
had her aim been a little worse,
she might have averted World War I,
but she had too much control of her gun to achieve that result.
Q.E.D.: gun control can be DANGEROUS.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 10:31 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Yes.
I am not a hunter,
but I was interested to read the writings of
Annie Oakley and of James Butler Hickok
( who did not meet until well into their adulthoods )
both of whom, at age 9...


Hmm...Annie was born in 1860, and Wild Bill died in 1876. "Well into their adulthoods"?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 11:47 am
D'artagnan wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Yes.
I am not a hunter,
but I was interested to read the writings of
Annie Oakley and of James Butler Hickok
( who did not meet until well into their adulthoods )
both of whom, at age 9...


Hmm...Annie was born in 1860, and Wild Bill died in 1876. "Well into their adulthoods"?

Thank u, D' art.
That is an astute observation.

I thought I 'd read somewhere that thay met
at Buffalo Bill Cody 's show
( for which thay both worked ),
but your observation leads me to some skepticism,
as to that alleged meeting.
Thanks again.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 11:53 am
Maybe you were thinking of Calamity Jane?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 11:56 am
You are probably thinking of Calamity Jane rather than Annie Oakley.
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